BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums MID-ATLANTIC LACROSSE MARYLAND FORUM Boys 2022 -9th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019

Hawks had three good games but dropped a tough one versus the LI Express Chan by a goal. Fall ball is about evaluating players and experimenting as a coaching staff especially in a play day format (no playoffs or championships). Many kids are coming off of fall sports and may already be involved in winter sports so these fall tournaments are more for brushing off cobwebs and evaluating where kids are athletically versus winning every game. Every high school and college coach will tell you the same thing: Rec and club coaches don't always have this developmental perspective.

Do the Maryland privates hold lacrosse tryouts in the fall? I noticed most of the Hawks players had already been issued their high school helmets.

Private you pay the tuition you make the team. Only cuts after sophomore year.

Private you pay the tuition you make the team. Only cuts after sophomore year.

I guess you went 0-3

I guess you went 0-3

Not looking good for this weekend on the east coast. Grass fields will be swamped.

What 2022 tournaments are being played? Most the good players will be playing for their HS at the NHSLS which is all on turf.

When you add these Showcase and NHSLS tournaments on top of the already exorbitantly priced annual club fees you're in the hole $3-4k per year. All for a potential partial scholarship to college. Seems like a bad ROI but I guess if its disposable income its ok. The sport is largely pricing out the middle class. Fine for the club owners but not so good for the athleticism of the sport.

Did you just realize Lacrosse is a rich white boy sport? The NHSLS is filled with Elite top money private schools. If you are paying in excess of 18K for school what is 3 to 4K for lacrosse for a year? Hockey is tons and tons of money because of the Ice time and travel the game requires. Do they get blamed for pricing out the poor kids. The 3D Harlem team is the best example of giving poor kids a shot at this game. But I would like to add if a 6' 3" kid who runs a 4.4 40 shows up to play for his public high school team and does everything the school provides for Free. He will only need to save up enough money to pay for one showcase and he will get a college roster spot for sure. How many travel teams and showcases does a 6' 9" basketball player need to play for? I think if the public school coaches can talk the Public school RB,WRs and QB into picking up a stick the game will have better athletes. But as long as the D1 lacrosse teams only 12.5 full rides worth to give away the sport will not get the best of the best athletes. A D2 football team has 45 Full rides to give. That is more then 3 times a D1 lacrosse team. If they just got D1 lacrosse to up the number to 25 full rides worth the big strong and fast would flock to the game.

what a bunch of nonsense. Friday happy hour must have started early. Lay off the bottle

The NXT Boys Philly Invitational Showcase 2018 Line-up this weekend is really tough. I hope the best teams get a chance to play each other....

2way
3d NE
Annapolis Hawks
BBL Elite
Blue Star
Dukes
Evolve CanAm2022
Fighting Clams
FLG
Iron Horse
Koopers
NJ Riot Chaos
NXT
PA Roughriders
Patriot
Predators
Seattle Starz
SouthShore
STEPS
Sweetlax Upstate
Team 91 MD
Tri State
TRUE

I agree this is lots of random thoughts but please tell me which thought is nonsense. I just looked at the lineup for NHSLS its 85% private schools.

what a bunch of nonsense. Friday happy hour must have started early. Lay off the bottle

The price to pay in the NHSLS is $105 per kid. Public schools could have played in it if they wanted to. Stop complaining.

Public school coaches have to skirt the rules to get a team together for these things. Coaches and assistants are not permitted to coach in any capacity outside of the season which starts March 1. You do have the Northerns, Tides and Hereford Zone teams among others that manage to get organized without any of their coaches being involved, but it isn’t easy.

Really tough? Other than Hawks and 91MD the rest of them are all B and C teams. 91MD may be missing kids playing in the NHSLS so not sure what they will look like.

3-0 teams : Seattle Starz, Annapolis Hawks, BBL, T91MD, and 3dNE

DMV teams did well. Koopers went 1-2. Did 91MD bring in the Guests?

Dukes went 1-1-1 - must not have had their best line up.

With fall lax over for most teams any surprises of teams improving or teams dropping down in talent?

At this point all the Elite teams are very good and can beat each other on any given day. It should be less about team wins and more about individuals getting better . If that happens then the team will be better. If that does not happen then a change is needed. Some of these Coaches for 2022 are bit over the top. Team wins are good for the Club program and get kids into final games of tournaments. College coaches just don't watch the Championships, they are on sidelines for the 1st game on thru. The age has 1 more year to individually get better to help themselves and their team and continue thru to 11th and 12th grades.

At this point all the Elite teams are very good and can beat each other on any given day. It should be less about team wins and more about individuals getting better . If that happens then the team will be better. If that does not happen then a change is needed. Some of these Coaches for 2022 are bit over the top. Team wins are good for the Club program and get kids into final games of tournaments. College coaches just don't watch the Championships, they are on sidelines for the 1st game on thru. The age has 1 more year to individually get better to help themselves and their team and continue thru to 11th and 12th grades.

Yes very good point. Sorry dads no more T-shirts and free socks. Its all about getting that college roster spot from this day on.

Which is why you'll see more player movement than in years past. If a kid really wants to play in college, it isn't enough to get reps against 1st stringers on a great team despite the coach telling you that's what's best. You have to be able to put something on video or get on the field when coaches are watching. Sophomore year is the big year now.

You're right but this isn't anything new, has been going on for 30 plus years. Parents/kids take a look at the depth chart and make decisions. If you're a very good player but are competing against the coach's son for a starting spot, many transfer because they feel the playing field isn't level, If the coach has recruited over you or there's too many quality players at your position (it happens in every sport), families explore transferring. In some conferences you can't transfer once you're on the varsity without sitting out a year or moving a long distance. All of the top programs have kids transfer in and out all almost every year. And yes, you will see more player movement because kids aren't committed early and need to get playing time to get recruited.

Yes very good point. Sorry dads no more T-shirts and free socks. Its all about getting that college roster spot from this day on.

I like overall the Sept. 1st Jr. year rule. But this rule will drive up and increase the pressure on us parents to have our sons in the right school and on the correct travel team their Fresh and Sophomore year. We will all need to be guessing is my son a D1 kid is he D3 can he play college lacrosse. The early recruiting allowed the parents to know my little Johnny is not top D1.

What a joke. Get a life.

So if you are so smart please explain what about my commit is such a Joke. I am guessing you like the new rule as do I. But every thing has good and bad. Do you think the rule is 100% better for everything and everyone? Is it correct that the new rule shortens the real recruiting process? How does a parent know their son is D1, D2 or D3 before Sept 1st Jr. Year? You have no idea what level and what schools like/ have interest in your son before this date now is this correct? Please tell me how many 2020 kids have Verbals as of today? So if you have a 2020 son and he has received no emails and no phone calls from D1 schools you have 12 months from today to really search, contact, and find a team that wants you.

The Madlax 2022 team has collapsed. Several will be playing for different teams this summer.

Not sure where they will go. How many clubs other than Madlax hold another tryout for summer team? Most team are set.

Blackwolf is taking players this winter and they can play with their former Madlax team members

The Madlax 2022 team has collapsed. Several will be playing for different teams this summer.

Blackwolf is taking players this winter and they can play with their former Madlax team members

Black wolf plays 2 tournaments during the summer?