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Ok your all misconstruing the situation.
Express Schwalje was always in the top 4.
It would have been:
1. Taz 3 wins 0 losses
2. Igloo 2 wins 1 tie (but had a better goal differential)
3. Express 2025 Chan 2 wins 1 tie
4. Express 2024 Schwalje 2 wins 1 loss (but beat Express 2024 North in head to head 3rd game)

When Chan forfeited it allowed Express 2024 North to come in as the 4th spot and Express 2024 Schwalje moved up to the 3rd.
This way Schwalje went against Igloo in playoff instead of Taz, and would then go against Taz in championship game.
Since it was up for grabs as to who would win in a Taz vs Schwalje game, and Schwalje lost their first game against Taz, by Chan forfeiting it just pretty much ensured Schwalje would make it to final championship game to face Taz.

Next time read the rules for the tournament, and you would have realised Schwalje would have been in playoffs. Not to mention after Chan forfeited Schwalje was then listed as number 3 team and Express North as number 4, told you Schwalje was in playoffs either way.

Not sure that makes any sense. Ok, so who should they (Chan’s team) have played?

You are right rebels 2-1 also so three way tie at 2-1. Best goal differential decides the seed. So the 4 seed was express north. Lie was the 5th seed. Blatant really lost credibility

in what way they went 4-1 . They beat express and lost t esxptess. How is that a step back. Just stirring the pot. Can not win them all .

You are wrong. Read the rules.
In a tiebreaker after points which was the same since 2 wins 1 loss, then comes head to head. Head to head comes before goal differential.
Schwalje played Express North in 3rd game and won, so they seeded better than Express North.
Rebels had a worse goal differential then both of the other teams so they had no chance.

You must read the rules. Every tourney is different.

Thus the reason in playoffs Schwalje seeded 3rd and played Igloo while North behind them seeded 4th and played Taz.

Chan forfeited because he knew he couldn’t win. Great lesson you are teaching your players!
His top players who were good but nothing special tied Igloo because big Igloo boys couldn’t figure out how to play such small players without fouling. That right there is why you shouldn’t play up. The size difference was ridiculous! He knew in the playoffs Igloo would figure out how to use their size and not stumble and step back. Cheater and horrible coach!

Okay at the end of the day Express has an ugly orange T-shirt and split with Legacy. They are the two best teams yesterday and probably will play again this weekend at tri star. Heard the 2025s for 91 might be attending.

You are wrong. 3 Teams tied at 2-1. Only 2 teams played each other so head to head can’t be used for tie
breaker. Moves to goal diffential. Which Express North
was leader. They get 4 seed.

what kind of stunad says this? look at taz schedule? stop crying , Chan's team is a very good team and you know they proved that today ....and for the guys crying that they didnt get to play them again so they would have a haha easier path to the finals ..good luck

can you find a better substitute for ....More on.... when editing posts than stunad !!!!!!!!!

Sorry you are wrong.
Nothing in rules say cant use head to head if 3. Way tie. Rebels didnt play either head to head so you look at goal differential. And they did not beat either on that, so were knocked out.
Schwalje and Express North did go head to head and Schwalje won, so they were 4th seed.
After forfeit by Chan, Schwalje moved up to 3rd seed and Express North became 4th seed.

If you were right then after forfeit, Express North would have moved up to 3rd seed and Schwalje would have been 4th seed.
That did not happen. Its all there very clearly. Its ridiculous and makes you look foolish to argue anymore.

Sorry, but Force was third best team on Saturday. On paper they were much better than Rebels.

We are talking about the 2024 games on Sunday. Not the Saturday games.

Sorry, but Force was third best team on Saturday. On paper they were much better than Rebels. [/quote]

We are talking about the 2024 games on Sunday. Not the Saturday games.[/quote]

Oh, so we're talking about 2024 games on a 2025 thread!?!?

Chan 2025 has 2024 kids on it anyway. They should always Play 2024 brackets!

We are talking about the 2024 games on Sunday. Not the Saturday games.[/quote]

Oh, so we're talking about 2024 games on a 2025 thread!?!?
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Yes. Because Express Chan 2025 not only played Saturday. But they also played Sunday in the 2024 division.

They would be good enough to compete. But then the 2nd & 3rd liners wouldn't get any playing time.

How about twenty24 in the B division. go 3-0 and lost to OReilly? the 3-7th graders left after Igloo game... CC needed to beat Igloo to save his franchise. that ship has sunk

"CC"?

12-2 loss to Express A and the B team went 0-3 as well.

They beat O'Reilly after they left. Tourney Machine is wrong. CC was definitely all about beating igloo. 24 "2025" won the 2025 B bracket

Regardless, looks like the Force A team was still the 3rd best team on Saturday and is probably the 3rd or 4th best team on Long Island. Very tough to dispute that. Don't know much about the Force B team other than they are a new team.

Christopher Columbus
The owner of twenty4

Second year team is not going to compete with Express. Looks like they played express north tough.

The B team went 1-2

Hornets playing to 5th/6th grade teams.

All the B team rosters looked light. Don’t know if it’s other fall sports or what. I think parents on some of these lessor B teams will look for greener pastures after the fall. Now that they see the results on the field.

I don’t think it’s that tough. TB, fl$, Igloo, Legacy are all clustered there. How long before the better kids move to 91 or Express? Because that’s a risk and that is what happens.

Great “dispute”, buddy. Don’t think TB ever beat Force and name one reputable A team fl$ and Legacy has beaten? Force lost to Igloo by a goal last year. As far as the better kids moving to Express or 91, not everyone wants to be in a roster with 35 other kids.

And farce lost twice to TB in one day last year. Hard to dispute.... lol. See you at the National Club Championship in July. It’s at UMass this year in case you need to book your hotel rooms now.

What's with the "Farce" thing? FORCE beat TB 4-2 last spring and lost to them in a braveheart which puts them in your cluster.

Who cares about who ranks where? It’s meaningless. Let the boys play and have fun. No one can dispute that there are only 3 A programs (91, Express, and igloo) and the rest are just B teams competing and having fun. And there’s nothing wrong with that, nor does it mean it will always be that way. None of those other teams stand out as that much better than any of the rest and none of them can really compete with those 3 teams. That’s just the way it is. Your son may not be the best player on the best team right now but that doesn’t mean he won’t be a star one day. Let them just have fun without all the parent intervention. People on this board need to stop calling out children, pointing fingers, insulting others and being so darn immature and disgusting.

Well said, however I disagree with Igloo being in the same class as Express & 91.

Who are the Hornets?

Agreed. Express by far the top of the food chain, followed by 91. Igloo is good but not at that level. No shame. I can't imagine anyone asking when you are a young adult how many t-shirts you won as a 10, 11 or 12 yr old. Play and develop. Have fun.

Wait, I thought Long Island teams complained that Maryland teams had the older kids.....

Well said

The Hornets are 91's B team

More like their C team. All the new programs are. Hornets, Rebels, rebels and Turtles can’t compete with the likes of any true B teams like Igloo, Force, TB or Legacy.

Duh, that's only when they lose to a Maryland team in Delaware by 8-9 goals.