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You didn't watch the game then. He Ran the offence and won the game. Light years better than any other kid on that team. assists and goals-- everything came from him. Hey maybe he taught Schwalje what an assist is.

Add kids from Chany team??they are 2025 first off, and secondly all their best players are 2024 kids that dropped down because they wernt good enough to stay on an A team

Some random observations based upon some recent forum comments from a knowledgable lax person who has no ties to the top 3 teams, but has seen them play often. I agree, there are three legit AA teams on long island in WP, Taz and Schwalje. Among many things, these 3 have the face-off superiority that makes it nearly impossible for other teams to compete against. They simply control possession against other LI teams. TB and Igloo are very good B's. It impresses me the way the 3 AA teams rise up when they play each other, and knock each other off. I personally think that if WP plays their game, they are the best. Their ball movement and off-ball movement is the best that I have seen. Taz plays the most physical. 3 very good teams.

You don't go head to head when three teams are tied at 2-1.

Express, Express North and Rebels were all 2-1 and therefore tied on points. Next up is head to head but you cant do that as as Rebels didnt play h2h with any of the other.

So next up is goal differential. That would have left this as the proper scenario

1- Taz 3-0
2- Igloo 2-0-1
3- Express '25 2-0-1
4- Express North (+9 gd. The real issue is that they got to play Outlaws and run up the score. Tie break is usual goals against to avoid this.)
5- Express Schwalje 2-1 (+7gd)
6- Rebels 2-1 (+1 gd)

Two top 24 teams ended up in the championship. Better team at that time won. They carried the game but it could have gone the other way.

I agree with you . it really gets old all this crap on here. The truth is , it is the same people always stirring the pot.

2025 parents are not angry

WRONG

What happened to Taz in championship? Guessing they ran out of gas. I didn’t see the game, but based on their very limited depth, I’m willing to bet that’s what happened.

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Actually one of their parents told me their extreme holdback missed game one. He essentially won the championship game for them. Creates their whole offense. Great player. Turning 14 soon they said[/quote]

I dont think 1 player on Schwaljes team would make that much of a difference.
I do wonder if after Chan forfeited the 2025 spot, did Chan have any of his best players stay to play on Schwaljes team for the playoff and championship. That would have given Schwaljes team a lot more depth and multiple strong lines to pull from.
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You didn't watch the game then. He Ran the offence and won the game. Light years better than any other kid on that team. assists and goals-- everything came from him. Hey maybe he taught Schwalje what an assist is.
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TAZ had an 8th grade defensemen, as well. Hate to say it but you just get used to teams pulling this stuff.

Add kids from Chany team??they are 2025 first off, and secondly all their best players are 2024 kids that dropped down because they wernt good enough to stay on an A team WRONG

sorry buddy,its the truth,one from Express 2024 and 1 from Legacy 2024,that are the top kids, they also have a few from Outlaws but they arent any good...truth...

It's a bitter cycle.At every tournament, Everyone making excuses for loses and doing unethical things for wins. why? Hold backs!! age! Is always the reason. My kid is on an A team. He is of age, meaning born in 06. I will tell you that a big majority of his teammates were born in 05. Good kids, good players, but should be in 8th grade. This would be a much better game if some age rules were put in place. This way the coaches could coach without being bashed for cheating, and the Kids could play without persecution or scrutiny.

Actually one of their parents told me their extreme holdback missed game one. He essentially won the championship game for them. Creates their whole offense. Great player. Turning 14 soon they said[/quote] don't believe anything on here. All garbage. Taz has no 8th grade Defenses man. Fact

I dont think 1 player on Schwaljes team would make that much of a difference.
I do wonder if after Chan forfeited the 2025 spot, did Chan have any of his best players stay to play on Schwaljes team for the playoff and championship. That would have given Schwaljes team a lot more depth and multiple strong lines to pull from.
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You didn't watch the game then. He Ran the offence and won the game. Light years better than any other kid on that team. assists and goals-- everything came from him. Hey maybe he taught Schwalje what an assist is.
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TAZ had an 8th grade defensemen, as well. Hate to say it but you just get used to teams pulling this stuff.[/quote]

The boy from Taz has been playing up until now. He’s playing on grade with Express ‘25. Common knowledge.

The tourney directors are ultimately to blame. They have make sure match ups make sense and do everything they can to almost seed the pool play or split the bracket. It’s not that hard to do. They all know who the teams, unless they have their head in the sand. At the end of the day, you want the best teams playing or teams playing that pull off the upset. Not hometown cooking. The 2022 bracket is another example. In such a big bracket, why is Express Orange playing Igloo Blast, while the Rebels glide. Again, Force, Express Black, Maddog and Igloo B could have had a nice bracket.

Once again the rebels and outlaws mess everything up. All they did was try and pave their way for success. Different jerseys and name, but still the same scams. I’m sure half those teams don’t want to go back to any blatant tournament. When will they learn? The rebels won’t last long either.

Completely accurate. This whole problem is on Blatant. REALLY bad job by them. There isn’t a person associated with ‘24 LI lacrosse that didn’t know that Express and Taz were head and shoulders above the rest in that tourney. And Blatant knew it too. Major screwup by them. But, why didn’t any of the coaches speak up when the schedule came out? That’s just as bad. Zummo and Schwale should have called this out way before tourney day.

You didn't watch the game then. He Ran the offence and won the game. Light years better than any other kid on that team. assists and goals-- everything came from him. Hey maybe he taught Schwalje what an assist is.



I didn't go to the game, but I'm looking for a better analysis of the championship game. The only thing I'm hearing about is this one big 14 year old who dominated the offense for Express. This is 7th grade lacrosse and good 7th grade lacrosse, not 1st grade lacrosse. It takes a lot more than just one big kid running to the goal to beat another team at this age and level. Can someone with an IQ for lacrosse give some insight on this game?

If your coach had entered your team you'd know. He was busy washing his hair.

Cheating is the new norm, apparently.

Is it now ok to use 8th graders in a 2024 tourney???

Did you see the score?? It tells the story. Beating a team by 4 goals and holding that team to 2 measely goals is an old fashion a$$ kicking. Taz was outclassed from top to bottom. They couldn’t score. Express flat out the far better team.

Schwalje team did the same thing last year at octoberfest.. My son was on express 2nd team and his team won all qualifying games. Taz beat schwalje in play in games to knock them out. Organizers kicked my sons team out to let schwalje play. They are used to this

Your crazy the final score was 6-3 yes TAZ lost, no excuse and if you want to get technical and you where there one of the goals was unfortunate when a TAZ player went to soft roll the ball to his goalie for a clear and goalie lost it under his stick and it rolled in and they beat them earlier 5-2 so what’s your point. Secondly to say TAZ was out classed, then what has been EXPRESS Excuses for past 5 years it’s the first time they ever beat them. Ever. Both great teams and will be fun through out the year including next weekend again.

first of all not even close TAZ beat them good in game one 5-2 . Was far better all around . TAZ played bad in the championship . Score was 6-3. Express played better . Was a split simple as that . Say what you want . Express is not that impressive .

how can you even say that when Express was clearly out played in game one. So funny you people.

By that reasoning Taz kicked Express a$$ in the first game.

Taz has its reign. Now 3 rd best on LI.

what ever lie makes you feel good . Now let’s stop acting like children .

Hey taz dummies. The best player on express wasn’t there game one. That is what changed. In the final he had a goal or assist in 5 of the 6 goals. Yes without him express is behind taz. But he runs the show and you can’t handle him nor will Wolfpack. Yes he is very old for 2024 but so what. Welcome to AA lax.

not that good express , TAZ just had a bad game. WP will crush you guys

and last year mysteriously there was new kids added to the roster in the second game , just like thIs time. Expresses M/O. Use to play for them so I know .

Oh moon....

Hey tazummies. The best player on express wasn’t there game one. That is what changed. In the final he had a goal or assist in 5 of the 6 goals. Yes without him express is behind taz. But he runs the show and you can’t handle him nor will Wolfpack. Yes he is very old for 2024 but so what. Welcome to AA lax.

Haha Cant handle him?? Hahaha simmer down dad he's a good player not a dominant one. Haha too funny.

If he is so good, how come he's not good enough to play with kids his own age?? Apparently not that good. LOL.

Great. Can't wait to see him at the Denver qualifier. LOL.

So what happens to Schwalje's team in Denver? They won't stand a chance.

That wouldn't have happened to the new WP starting goalie, you know, the one who left Taz.

Correct. They go right back to where they always are, when they can’t cheat. Bottom of the pile. 💩

Um he is a 2023

Stop! That can and does happen to most goalies at one time or another. No big deal.

Taz will implode by end of year. Best kids will run to 91 and express.