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Just remember tough guy, there is a lot of time between now and then, in which you will turn into the Little Bit#% and your kid will be Dead Weight removed from a team, mostly just plain lack of skill and replaced by a better player. It's called KARMA

Karma. Well I guess this is what Karma is for you.

Trying to spread BS stories to avenge the fact your kid got cut. For the amount you talk and how mad you are at JM you should find that JM and tell him off. That Karma would kick in really fast as he whooped your butt!

Go have another drink.

Is this a Lax forum or a JM forum? Enough already! If you don't like him or want to play for him go to another team and see if the grass is greener. Hopefully it is and you stay off the bashing JM and rave about your new team!

I can't believe all of this crap I am reading. Whoever this parent is has reached new heights the way I see it. He admits he is being a little [ChillLaxin] and tells another parent wait until he turns into the little [ChillLaxin]. Sounds like these guys know who each other are.

We should just setup a fight night and watch people like these two put the gloves on and go at it. Do it for charity so at least this pathetic thread will actually do some good in the world.

express will have 35 man roster this year. How do people put up with that. 9 attack 12 midfield 13 defense and 1 goalie. Nuts.

Unreal!! This guy is an absolute genius to have people pay hand over foot to have their kids on this team! Sad thing, of the 35, 5, maybe 6 play D1, the rest Adelphi, NYIT, and then the others tired of the entire thing! But in all honesty, if it works for the kids and parents, enjoy and good luck! I’d prefer to have my kid PLAY elsewhere!
*cue the your son stinks/got cut/couldn’t hack comments! LOL

And Chan$$ still making phone call to kids who didnt even tryout. Received ours last week. Kindly turned him down after hearing how many players they will be carrying. Guy is a $nake.

Don’t know how true this is. I’m hearing a different story Yes there will be a a lot of kids but no that number. Also hearing he told some parents that there would be little to no play time. Some of these kids are on the team because the parents want them on the team to get training. I disagree with this but they are not my kids. I can’t bash them if that is what they believe is best. Good luck.

He’s thinking like a college coach who carries 50. The majority of the team will be practice players. They are there to help the starters prepare for games. Don’t worry, they will all share the winning trophies.

That’s is 100% the case. But nothing new. They will carry kids at the request of the parents for the practice or parents who need to say their kid is in that team. Those parents will eventually realize that 1000 progressions with elite players does not compare to playing time.

True, parents do whats best for their kids. Showcase time and recruiting process, the kids will have to earn it on their own, at least the majority will have to.

This year is a big restructuring change in the travel lacrosse dynamic! New clubs, exsisting clubs going to one team per grade, a lot of room for movement. Why would you stay on a 35 man team and not get playing time! If you really watch these A teams play their are only 5 or 6 kids that are separating each team. I watch this with express, 4 years ago they were gonna fold, a couple of years later they are the team to beat! Now 91 is the big dog. These new clubs are ungrading how the system works, at this point any club with more than one team per grade is a money grab!

Place your kid where he belongs and he’ll thrive imho.. 100 push ups, 100 sit ups, run cross country, and the hit wall daily and your son will be better. Way better than being a practice player. Put the hard work in, other than working your wallet.

The prices are ridiculous, the head count is ridiculous all for what ? Lucky a kid gets money for school . Remember kool aid drinking parents 12.6 full scholarships per Teammmmm. Any see the fake championship MLL game last night ? No one there like college. More people at the little league World Series. What a dead end sport at the end of the day and these clubs have the balls to charge what they charge. It really is a joke

Youth sports is now a multi billion dollar industry. It’s not changing, but will evolve like everything. Lax, like any other industry with a similar product with rising prices, rising competition, and it appears rising demand will change. Once demand wanes, even a little, competition and prices, in theory, should adjust or stabilize.

Yep! About right. The many are financing dreams for the few. And, only the top 20 D1 teams play competitive lacrosse.

Sad part about it, parents fall for the big name teams and the amount of money they charge. 4k alone just for tuition for you kid to play youth lacrosse is totally insane. Tell you the truth, there are plenty empty seats at college games if you think about it. But parents are hooked on the "lacrosse crack" and keep coming back for more and more.

Copy and pasting this from another thread.
This says it all.


In the end you do this because your kid loves to play.
- dont do it for the scholarships. You are better off not doing it then, saving that money, and you would end up having more money for your kid for college.
- dont do it if your kid is not being played. Thats just ridiculous. What is he practicing for. You practice so you will play well in your games. If he is not being played, its a waste. Pick a different team.
- dont do it because your kid wants to be on the top team. You are sending the wrong message to your kid. Being part of somerhing in name only, but not contributing to it by playing in the game, means he really earned nothing.
- dont do it just because you want to tell others your kid is on the top team. Your actually harming your kids self esteem, as he continues to watch others play instead of him.
- dont force your kid to play just to relive your dreams in your youth. Your child needs to choose their own path. That is the only way they will be successful and happy. That should be your goal.

If your kid enjoys lacrosse, pick a team where
- he is played. He doesnt have to be a starter. But he needs to play a decent amount of time in games.
- there is a team environment where there may not be equal playing time for all, but every player gets reasonable playing time.
- there is one team per age group. Or at least your on the top team. All the second teams are money grabs. Its way to difficult for organizations to pull in enough talent at tryouts to field 2 teams in an age group. (And everyone at tryouts wont accept). You are better playing for another club.
- Dont be a sucker paying ridiculous figures. Figure out what they are really giving you for your money. Is it really worth it? Why did tuition go up 25%? Certainly costs didnt increase that much in a year.
- Talk to people who you know or that friends know play for or played for that organization to get a better picture. Get the inside scoop.
- make a list of questions. And call and talk to the coaches before accepting an offer. If they wont talk to you, or give you nonsense answers, then run. It can only get worse from there.
- make sure the organization is investing in proper coaches for your team. Not just one head coach and the rest volunteer daddy coaches getting a free ride for their kid.

Once on your team
- dont switch mid season. It does nothing but hurt your kids image when he tries out for other clubs. And teaches your kid the wrong lesson about following through with his commitment to his team.
- make sure your kid enjoys playing for the team when deciding to try out next season.
- if you find during the season the organization does not follow through with what they promised, then walk after the end of the season. Find another team. Otherwise it will only get worse.
- practice with your kid. And make sure your kid understands practicing daily at home is the only way he will get better.
- when at tournaments enjoy the game. Dont be crazy on the sidelines shouting. Let the coaches do the coaching.
- dont let winning be everything. In the end it should be whether your kid is enjoying thenselves, and developing as a player. You certainly dont want to lose all the time. But you also dont want to win at any cost.

Have a great season

Other posts shares a bad experiences, which is what a forum is about. Sharing good and bad experiences. Thats why BOTC exists. Your post is nasty, mean and name calling. Why calling kids dead weight and parents weak? You complain about anonymous posting but didn't post your name too.

Is empire B still looking for kids?

What is the price difference between ny metro area club lacrosse and out side ny. Maryland , Carolina etc... I know the big name clubs the tryouts about half the price that it is here. How about for the year ?

He was just drinking off a bad day.

No clue. I don’t what club is looking kids, it would be a nice resource for parents. They (BOTC hint hint) should open a thread for posts for teams that are looking. And I would recommend only registered users could post to keep it informative.

Yes they are. I got emails about them and 9D1 second team. I think East Coast Elite is looking also and maybe renegades. is too. Mostly B teams that are having trouble holding onto players.

It would be a great idea to actually spread useful information instead of the venom that gets spread around here now !

Who the heck are the Renegades meat head!

A lot people are looking for teams. And choosing is tough.

Maryland about 2000-2500. That usually is all-inclusive, from fall, winter workouts, spring schedule in the past, summer, unis, gear, etc.

The Top Team's on long island charge between $3,500 and $4,000 for tuition. That include fall/summer tournaments, all year practices and uni's. They say that includes everything but there are usually additional charges along the way.

4,000.00 is ludicrous

Does Chaney really only have one Goalie?

$4,000 is the tip of the iceberg for LI express. Mind-boggling.

Along with the entire youth travel lacrosse culture. Some charge $40-50/hr for private lessons, tax free! And you know they are making well over the thresh-hold not to pay taxes.

The only way it stops is if we the parents stop paying the outrageous cost of travel lacrosse but we all know the parents with too much money feel their child will be better off playing for a travel team and paying 4k. It has to stop sometime or we will all be paying 6k before you know it!

Too many kids in school teams still cannot catch and throw and have no clue how to get a GB in a scrum. The better players need opportunities to play with kids who have similar skills... travel gets you there. Yes prices are crazy but my kid is not going to get any better playing with kids who have a huge drop off in skill level... at least that is how it is in our school district

Every parent will not boycott playing club so you will see the tuition to increase every year & when the more teams fold (i.e. Bluefish, Dodgers, LI Pride, etc) or get bought out such as the Jesters & Stampede did by 91 among other programs they own, there will only be around 8 key programs around on the island who can then set the marketplace at a figure that will be well over 5k a player... A developmental program/league needs to created like they have in Soccer to have a governing body that is making a small profit to provide different levels of play on a national stage otherwise these private programs will continue to make 40-50k per team which is erroneous even though I am a capitalist and believe these programs deserve to make money however, when they are making 150%-300% profit margins, that's when I think it crosses the line.

But I agree with the other poster with getting private lessons.I want to say that the club coaches don't give the individual attention necessary but it is difficult when managing 20-22 kids & when their jobs are to get the Team prepared with team offense/defense, man-up/man-down, clearing, riding and other schemes so Private Lessons are good for players all any merit..Look at the top pro athletes in the world and still continue to hire a swing coach (golf) (tennis) & many other sports because everyone can enhance their game plus it pushes the athlete beyond their tolerance therefore improving their game.

Is it taboo on this board to list which fall tournaments your club will be heading to?

That kid is good, athletic and tall! He can always recruit or bring one up for the other 2 teams.

Who would was to be a back up goalie for Chan? Talk about zero plating time!

One organization went up 25% from last season, come on! I'm also a capitalist, but I also want to make or collect as money as I can. So when club lacrosse prices conflict with what I'm willing to pay, cuts have to be made.