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Something is strange. When you say the have barely any recruits and no good schools,, I am looking ta the liberty website and see their college commitments for the 2019's as follows - U Penn, Colgate, USC, Michigan, USC, Cornell, Stanford, Stanford, Holy Cross Holy Cross, Richmond as well as others. Either you aren't familiar with Liberty, you are confused or lying OR you don't know what a good school is. Please enlighten us...........

My Niece plays for Igloo (played) it was said most are going to YJ as a team a few are going to TG and Empire

If your goal is to win lax for the cure and pound your chest that your kids team is the best have at it. if your goal is to get a degree in lax and get some vague communications or marketing degree then stay on the path you're on. More than 50% of college lax players do not play all four years and very few are making a good living via lax when college is over. BTW when college coaches start watching you in 2-3 years they don't care what the score of the games are or who won. One last thing, the worst teams in the country have 1-2 kids that can play and they will get noticed and recruited, the player gets recruited, not the team. Go look at the college rosters of top 20-30 teams, it's amazing, but not all the players come from yj and tg and even less in Ivy's and top academic schools , but you will always have your championship t-shirt - go figure[/quote

Wow, you are really living with your head buried in the sand. You also really don’t care about excelling at Lacrosse. There are plenty of girls that care about both academics and athletics who play for the most competitive teams who have the best chances, hands down, at getting into a top 20 school, and competing both athletically and academically. Face it, Liberty Lacrosse just does not have the stats to show that they commit girls to top schools. And did you really just say you have one or two kids per team that are recruited to a good school?? That’s embarrassing! Both YJ and TG eclipse them. Not about the tee shirt, about the prize at the end, and unfortunately Liberty does not deliver there. When you play the best competition, you get better, and see where you stand, Liberty simply does not do that.

Seriously?? They stink and have barely any recruits to good schools. Would be destroyed by any of the good 2023 teams.

Something is strange. When you say the have barely any recruits and no good schools,, I am looking ta the liberty website and see their college commitments for the 2019's as follows - U Penn, Colgate, USC, Michigan, USC, Cornell, Stanford, Stanford, Holy Cross Holy Cross, Richmond as well as others. Either you aren't familiar with Liberty, you are confused or lying OR you don't know what a good school is. Please enlighten us...........

Please don’t try to convince the previous poster with facts. Last thing you would want to do is spend 6 years standing on the sidelines with that person. Liberty will continue to do what it has done for the last 15 years which is develop and promote girls to play at the next level (whatever that next level maybe for your daughter). While winning is fun it is not the end all be all for the Liberty teams. So please don’t try and persuade someone who can’t see the trees from the forest. Trust me you will be better off without them on your team.

Serious question: What quality teams did Liberty play this summer, and what were the scores?

They played 2 local tournaments and 2 off the Island, Project 120 and The Grind. Played in the top bracket of those tournaments. Had one goal wins and losses against STEPS, Ultimate, T3, Common Goal, BBL, 3D.

So it seems like they played in appropriate tournaments against opponents of like ability.

So 12 year olds turning 13 should be playing on Varsity? No.

Confirmed, Liberty is a decent B team. Nothing more.

I am going to contact Bravo and Back of the Cage because I think if all the posters are willing, we can get a "Real Housewives of Long Island Lacrosse TV Show."

I am going to contact Bravo and Back of the Cage because I think if all the posters are willing, we can get a "Real Housewives of Long Island Lacrosse TV Show."

Oh boy.....here come the PC police........".Real Housepersons" is the correct word.

Majority of kids from Long Island who play in college played on 1 of 4 clubs:
YJ
Top Guns
Liberty
Elevate

Yes there have been other clubs over the years that girls have played on from Long Island and gone onto play in college and maybe there will be more in the future but as we have seen with Igloo, fl$, Express, 91, Icon, is that boys clubs that try to navigate in the girls space mostly fail.

So if you are hitching your wagon to one of those clubs then you are in for bumpy ride. If you want to get serious looks for college with directors who have connections with many college coaches then choose one of the four above.

So if Liberty as a “decent B” team is consistently committing girls to play lacrosse at the next level then it has done it’s job. Nothing more Nothing less.

Ive been through this rodeo a few times, and have gotten burned, which may explain why I am so much more aware of the back room dealings , as well as making sure my daughter is in the best possible position, and that she works for it. Many of you have absolutely no idea what a screwed up sport this is. I know, and am definitely jaded. Still, there are a lot of great kids and parents out there, just few and far between. I blame it on the clubs.

Majority of kids from Long Island who play in college played on 1 of 4 clubs:
YJ
Top Guns
Liberty
Elevate

Yes there have been other clubs over the years that girls have played on from Long Island and gone onto play in college and maybe there will be more in the future but as we have seen with Igloo, fl$, Express, 91, Icon, is that boys clubs that try to navigate in the girls space mostly fail.

So if you are hitching your wagon to one of those clubs then you are in for bumpy ride. If you want to get serious looks for college with directors who have connections with many college coaches then choose one of the four above.

So if Liberty as a “decent B” team is consistently committing girls to play lacrosse at the next level then it has done it’s job. Nothing more Nothing less.

Ive been through this rodeo a few times, and have gotten burned, which may explain why I am so much more aware of the back room dealings , as well as making sure my daughter is in the best possible position, and that she works for it. Many of you have absolutely no idea what a screwed up sport this is. I know, and am definitely jaded. Still, there are a lot of great kids and parents out there, just few and far between. I blame it on the clubs.

Liberty plays at all the tournaments they need to be at, if you're interested in a college they will come see you play, when it comes time for recruiting DG gets it done

don't forget the tg pipeline to Hofstra! btw in close games, playoff or showcase format the bottom third of the roster doesn't play at all. must be great writing college coaches and sending them your schedule and then having to explain why you didn't play in two of the four games - lol

Anything to justify why you team stinks! You may list a few Ivies as commitments, those girls probably got in there for reasons other than Lacrosse. I bet none of your former players were College All Americans or even starters for that matter, no wonder they don’t make past sophomore year on the team.

Team captain Cornell, Florida, Harvard, Penn to name a few, several all-americans and all-conference players also tewaarton watch list. sidelines for yj and tg are toxic to say the least. Btw nothing that DG has ever done can begin to compare with the way SS treat her players, both club and college

Hmm - SS I thought all the Igloo girls were coming to the TG tryouts. Nice try. Keep posting.

Do you think the Liberty girls will take spots from the original TG players?

Do you think the Liberty girls will take spots from the original TG players?

There is an interesting twist to liberty moving forward with the director no longer at the HS helm. I know several girls in the older age groups who played for liberty as they felt they had no choice. Now all these younger kids are free to play wherever they want with no backlash. I would guess to say Liberty teams will become less competitive, but the HS team will likely remain strong.

TG doesn’t need any Igloo girls, they already have the best girls on the Island.

You do realize that the assistant director who has been at Liberty forever was named the new head coach of Manhasset so kids will have the same loyalty to Liberty.