BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums MID-ATLANTIC LACROSSE MARYLAND FORUM Boys 2023-8th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019

"there" third consecutive year?? Neither team is or ever was Elite. 91 should play AA or A. However, HOCO league at this age is large so need to re-set the deck. 5 or 7 teams does not work. Maybe just have A, B, C and have 12 at each. There will be a few mismatched games but better overall games for all teams. Better than a two team league with Hawks and DCD

Good idea. Have 12 team divisions, with subdivisions in each

2019 HOCO 2023 could be:

A Div:
Group one: Hawks, FCA, Looney's, Crabs, SR, Cannons
Group two: DC dogs, NL, DCE, 91, Pick 2 from (VLC, Cav, 3d-LF)

B Div:
Group one: (3d, VLC, CAV: pick one), PGLC, PLC, Top Caliber, MadLax, USS Carriers
Group two: API, FCA W, Looney G, Breakers, Koopers, HLC

C Div:
Group one: Zingos, Lax W, Thunder, Rock, East Side, G, Evergreen, HOCO, Green Hornets, GT?
Group Two: Sidewinders, Bethesda O or DCE-B, MD Wolfpack, MDX, Revolution, Fallston

Slow day at work but I think this could be a better alignment for all the teams. Parks and Rec will receive an invoice in the mail for this research.

DC Dogs is Madlax. Funny how some hate Cabell so much that they refuse to acknowledge that the #1 (or co-#1 with Hawks) 2023 team in HOCO and possible the country is Madlax. But if it makes you feel better, keep calling it DC Dogs and make it sound like it is not Madlax.

Although you have to change "A" to "Elite", "B" to "AA" and "C" to "A". Wouldn't want anyone thinking their team or child was any lower than "A".

More accurately - holdback (9th grade age), A, B

Because of the good players are from club blue. If you call it Madlax everyone will assume the team is lousy since of course it has been for years at 2023.

Lax World folded. Breakers will have 3 teams. 3D should be in B. Koopers should be in C (no upgrade from last year). USS should be in C (got smoked in AA). PGLC should be in B (major drop off last year). Thunder and Rock should should be in B (4 and 3, 3 and 5 in A last year). Will GT even be able to field a team?

Koopers went undefeated in HOCO B div. until losing a close championship to Top Caliber. Most of their games were not even close. They should be in B with Top Caliber or A based on the current divisions.

How did Madlax (aka DC Dawgs) do against Hawks last year?

Interesting theory, this team is good and even made it on ESPN 3 where they were referred to as DC Dogs on the screen and by the announcers. Is it a mass conspiracy by the lacrosse world to call this team DC Dogs just to show hate toward the club owner? HMMM maybe it could be most refer to this team by that name because they call themselves DC Dogs?? They even have a uniform that is unlike any other Madlax team. If they wanted to be referred to as Madlax why the DC dogs with a different uniform and logo? It is a very very good team and I have never met or spoken with Cabell and could care less and do not hate. However, this team is also not a co-#1 until they beat Hawks.

its dawgs...

Oh those Mate Dei kids that should be in High School? Gotcha....Men against boys..... Things will get real for those holdbacks in High School

touche

why is that? they all will be driving to practice as freshmen, There just cheaters!!!! but most of them are great kids. Go back to birthdays LIKE ALL OTHE SPORTS. problem solved

Don't get the allure of Blackwolf. Google the guy. Sounds like he should have been a priest in Western PA. Pretty bad for the game that some parents will overlook such things to advance their son's careers.

My son is a 2022 and played after the 2023 championship game. Am I not remembering correctly or didn't DC Dawgs lose that game to True? How are they co-#1 with Hawks? Has DC Dawgs ever actually won a tournament?

Do they even have a 2023 team? This is a random attempt to really smear someone hope your facts or correct. If you are concerned stay away but why the public post?

Lets remember as Club blue they lost the last 3 times to hawks and as DC Dogs they lost again in the summer (that's 4 in a row). So how are they #1. I would still give #1 to the Hawks, you have to beat them to be #1

It is a matter of public record for those who do not want to ignore it. BW parents are either unaware or intentionally and shamefully ignorant.

Dc dawgs won the Millon 2023 national championship against true and lost to true in the NLF championship.

They are not a factor at this age group why post it here?

Wouldn't surprise me if the Hawks don't even make the playoffs this year. Reason: Zero impact 2022 holdbacks have tried out. If rumors are true about Crabs, DC Dogs, FCA, and others getting an impact holdback or getting several, those teams have a chance to be better. Thems the facts

This year there will be more holdbacks than ever. it is an epidemic now and it will not be letting up.

The privates will have their quota of helback Kindergarten kids ( prefirst ) , but now the occasional 8th grade reclass is turning into a flood.

Pretty sad behavior.

Mater Dei School showcases all that is wrong with a system that rewards being older and being judged against younger peers. Complete garbage from people who want their children to have an edge over other children.

Hawks did not have many (2-3) hold-backs tryout because the team is pretty much already set. As long as the Hawks keep their big guns healthy they should once again dominate.
Crabs lost their top offensive player.
Sad to see what has become of Looneys Lacrosse Club. More talent then anyone but cannot put it together on the field.
Hold-backs went to FCA (big time) and Crabs.

Hawks have the best goalie, pole, LSM, attackman, and Fogo... they will be fine.

Crabs picked up the top 2 attackmen hands down (including the ridiculous T91 MD holdback) as well as one of the top close D players. All played up last year and are not holdbacks (true age appropriate 23’s).

So OBVIOUS this is a Breakers kid or parent (probably one cut from Kooper's) with the passive aggressive comments to undercut. Kooper's also went to 3 tournament championships last year. Let's stay somewhat neutral.....Yeah, right! Should be interesting to see how it all plays out. Was Thunder not that strong last year?? Did Green Turtle not get a team together?

Your first say the 91 kid is a holdback than say he played up and is not a holdback. So which is it?

Kooper's is holding a supplemental because they cut average players and are having a small group coming to be evaluated but decided to open it to community. It's either have 3 tryouts and cancel 3rd if team is set or have 2 tryouts and add a 3rd if needed. For sure, they will not be in Elite or AA (maybe by tournament season). Somebody had a great HoCo re-division idea in later post. Read up HoCo!

3 B tournaments

I think many of the comments come from parens who are sour grapes about being cut or lack of playing time. They also control what teams their sons play on rather than let the kid deciding. I feel bad for some of these kids. Especially, the club hoppers. We had a kid leave our club who is going to his 4th club team and it's at the hands of his parents decision.

Hawks have best attackman by far. They also have arguably the best lefty attackman. This includes the holdback pickups.
The righty is the best... by a mile. Also have the best goalie and close D.

This team beat Wolfpack, Rockfish, MDX, Fallston, etc in B and did not improve at tryouts. It is an A/B club.

Clearly you have not seen the kids the Crabs picked up play yet. The hawks better start teaching real defense and get rid of that rec level zone

My post came off like I'm a Hawks supporter. Not the case. I hope you're right and the Hawks don't even make the playoffs. I find them ridiculous because every one of the players mentioned is 15 save for maybe the goalie. Can't say I like the Crabs any better though. Same cheating as the Hawks.

8th grade is all about the Holdbacks ! and that includes prefirst, they are holdbacks

Saying that the hawks are all 15 year olds over and over might make you feel better, but it doesn't make it any more true than the first time you posted it.

as far as the 'rec level" zone goes, I guess the all the cracker jack elite teams in hoco last year should have brought in some "rec level" player and coaches to beat it. . . surely, that was the answer.

And last I checked, the hawks defense was not the ones scoring an average of 14 plus goals against their opponents last spring. while playing every kid on the roster. Maybe their offense is running "rec league" plays too? so unfair.

as for tryout season, I can guarantee the Hawks roster will be 95% the same as last year. and the year before that.
BUT, now that crabs, FCA, Looneys, flavor of the month club up there have traded, held back, swapped, bribed, whatever, new rosters, maybe Hoco will be more competitive this spring.

as much as is galls the Baltimore lacrosse elite, AA county kids can play lacrosse too. And, guess what? They do it while remaining loyal to their teammates and coaches. Even if they lose a few games this spring, and this board lights up with glee, I wouldn't trade places with you club jumpers and back stabbers ever. boy, it must be miserable playing lacrosse up there.

Did any crabs join the hawks roster?