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Apparently Bob Jahelka, former co-owner of fl$ was owed 1 million dollars for his buyout in increments of 100k over the course of one year but after 4 months, the payments stopped and the owners of fl$ never answered any phone calls and emails for months so Bob is now suing them from 5 million dollars for breach of contract and is claiming that they are going bankrupt.
Did anyone else receive a copy of the lawsuit to their homes or emails?
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Just did a search and did not find a filing "For the Love of the Game Lacrosse lawsuit filing". if someone finds, please post the link.
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The money went to pay for the Huntington storefront
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SUPREME COURT OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK COUNTY OF NASSAU --------------------------------------------------------------------X PIONEER INITIATIVES, INC., independently, and PIONEER INITIATIVES, INC., derivatively on behalf of all creditors ofFLG Lacrosse, Inc., Plaintiffs, - against - fl$ LACROSSE, INC. a/k/a FOR THE LOVE OF THE GAME and GREG MICHAEL WINK.OFF, individually, Defendants. --------------------------------------------------------------------X SUMMONS TO THE ABOVE-NAMED DEFENDANTS: Index No. Plaintiff Designate Nassau County as the place of trial. The basis of venue is the Residence of Plaintiff Pioneer Initiatives, Inc. YOU ARE SUMMONED to answer the Complaint in this action and to serve a copy of your answer, or, if the Complaint is not served with this Summons, to serve a Notice of Appearance, on the plaintiff's attorneys within twenty (20) days after the service of this Summons, exclusive of the day of service (or within thirty (30) days after service is complete if this Summons is not personally delivered to you within the State of New York); and in case of your failure to appear or answer, judgment will be taken against you by default for the relief demanded in the Complaint. Dated: May 8, 2018 W antagh, New York To: Michael Winkoff, President fl$ Lacrosse, Inc. 345 Main Street, Unit #8 Huntington, NY 11743 Michael Winkoff, Individually 47 Crescent Beach Drive Huntington, NY 11743
VERIFIED COMPLAINT PIONEER INITIATIVES, INC., independently, and Pioneer Initiatives, Inc., derivatively on behalf of all creditors of fl$ Lacrosse, Inc. (the "Plaintiff') by and through its undersigned counsel, LaMonica Herbst & Maniscalco, LLP, as and for its verified complaint (the "Complaint") against defendants fl$ LACROSSE, INC. a/k/a FOR THE LOVE OF THE GAME ("fl$ Lacrosse") and GREG MICHAEL WINKOFF, individually ("Winkoff') ( collectively, fl$ Lacrosse and Winkoff shall be referred to as "Defendants"), alleges as follows: Preliminary Statement I. Plaintiffs bring these claims independently and derivatively on behalf of all creditors of defendant fl$ Lacrosse for, among other things, breach of contract, fraudulent inducement and breach of fiduciary duty. As more fully set forth herein, there can be no doubt that the individual defendant Greg Michael Winkoff has engaged, and continues to engage, in a fraud on the Plaintiffs and the creditors of the defendant fl$ Lacrosse. Through his manipulation, misrepresentation and fraudulent inducement, he caused a buyout of the defendant fl$ Lacrosse and has been using the cash flow and revenue of the company for his own personal purposes and diverting it to third parties for his benefit. In doing so, he has purposely defaulted on a Consulting Agreement only four (4) months after execution despite having the financial ability to pay it, and has threatened to place the company into bankruptcy or simply shut it down. Not only does this jeopardize the continued viability of the defendant fl$ Lacrosse, but also the hundreds of players who participate in its programs and the various contracts for tournaments over the next several years. His actions and behavior are inconsistent with sound logical principles and reasonable business judgment. At the very least, he should be removed from his position and this Court should consider the immediate appointment of a receiver who will act in the best interest of the company, the players, and all of its creditors. But for judicial intervention, the individual defendant Greg Michael Winkoff is likely to continue diverting corporate assets for his personal benefit and that of his family to the detriment of defendant fl$ Lacrosse and its creditors. THE PARTIES 2. Plaintiff Pioneer Initiatives, Inc. is a New York corporation with a principal place of business at 1400 Old Country Road, Westbury, New York 11590. 3. Defendant fl$ Lacrosse is a New York corporation with a principal place of business at 345 Main Street, Unit #8, Huntington, New York 11743. 4. Defendant Greg Michael Winkoff is an individual citizen of the United States with a personal residence at 4 7 Crescent Beach Drive, Huntington, New York 117 43.
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And his daughter's wedding!!
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For the Love or For the Money?
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Great I just signed up for try outs, there goes 81 dollars out the window.
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For the Love or For the Money? FLM, For the Love of the Money!
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For the Love or For the Money? FLM, For the Love of the Money! FL$ has done a lot of messed up things over the years. Doubt many on LI are sheddding too many tears over this. Mike (a/k/a Greg): Maybe those Manhasst daddies you used to be so buddy buddy with can help out......
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New to the game what messed up things have they done in the past?
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For the Love or For the Money? FLM, For the Love of the Money! FL$ has done a lot of messed up things over the years. Doubt many on LI are sheddding too many tears over this. Mike (a/k/a Greg): Maybe those Manhasst daddies you used to be so buddy buddy with can help out...... who would be dumb enough to pay $1 million for fl$? and who would be dumb enough to think they were going to get it? For the Love or For the Money? FLM, For the Love of the Money! FL$ has done a lot of messed up things over the years. Doubt many on LI are sheddding too many tears over this. Mike (a/k/a Greg): Maybe those Manhasst daddies you used to be so buddy buddy with can help out...... who would be dumb enough to pay $1million for fl$? and who would be dumb enough to think they would get paid?
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like what, having kids honor their commitment to the team for the 6 week period they ask of that and not leave their other club teammates in the lurch? F Chaminade and their pompous attitude. Is that what you were referring to by messed up? IT seems to me the current issue is a disagreement between two former partners. Both seemed like decent people from my experience, hope they work it out.
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The money went to pay for the Huntington storefront Never understood why they had a storefront. That has to be high rent being on the main strip in Huntington village. Were (or are) they ever a significant player in the lax world? Honest question... I never heard much about them... always the bigger players like 91, Express, Igloo, etc. I see a helmet here and there. Do they have solid teams in the older age groups?.
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a few years back they had a team that won the "national championship" in FL...since then, not much. the 20's are good. they have a lot of very average teams at younger ages, but solid program just not all in in term of year round dedication from the players and equal playing time across the board. works for some, we wanted more lax.
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Was at a tourney in PA this summer. Their 2025 team played my son's team. Very Solid B team and could be A if they added one or two players on Attack. Goalie was a monster.
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For the Love or For the Money? FLM, For the Love of the Money! FL$ has done a lot of messed up things over the years. Doubt many on LI are sheddding too many tears over this. Mike (a/k/a Greg): Maybe those Manhasst daddies you used to be so buddy buddy with can help out...... who would be dumb enough to pay $1 million for fl$? and who would be dumb enough to think they were going to get it? For the Love or For the Money? FLM, For the Love of the Money! FL$ has done a lot of messed up things over the years. Doubt many on LI are sheddding too many tears over this. Mike (a/k/a Greg): Maybe those Manhasst daddies you used to be so buddy buddy with can help out...... who would be dumb enough to pay $1million for fl$? and who would be dumb enough to think they would get paid? Better think twice about signing on with them. They will take the money from the team to pay for their legal defense. Be careful.
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What are the things they have done? Having 5 teams per age group, using players from AS team play with lesser teams (and take playing time away from that teams players) so they can get a desired tournament result? Ok
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That's ridiculous, who has 5 teams per age group! and they only have one team per age group. Maybe they had more in the past, i'm not sure. Also, if you didn't notice everyone brings kids from the A team down, from time to time, not nice but common. What are the things they have done? Having 5 teams per age group, using players from AS team play with lesser teams (and take playing time away from that teams players) so they can get a desired tournament result? Ok
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It was a million pesos not a million dollars
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Oops, guess I need to work my sarcasm. You are correct they only have one team per age group I was referring to one of the other programs out there that really has screwed people in the past. Although they were on the more expensive side they usually did try to do the right thing. I wonder if J thinks that now the issue has gone public and scared many away from the program that he will have an easier time getting what he feels he is owed.
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Oops, guess I need to work my sarcasm. You are correct they only have one team per age group I was referring to one of the other programs out there that really has screwed people in the past. Although they were on the more expensive side they usually did try to do the right thing. I wonder if J thinks that now the issue has gone public and scared many away from the program that he will have an easier time getting what he feels he is owed. Ah! I see. Sarcasm gets lost on this site. We have been with fl$ for 3 years and have be been very happy with them!
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Sorry was being sarcastic they only had 1 team per group unlike some other programs
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Been with them for two years, they run a great program. Training all year round with great coaches.
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That's ridiculous, who has 5 teams per age group! and they only have one team per age group. Maybe they had more in the past, i'm not sure. Also, if you didn't notice everyone brings kids from the A team down, from time to time, not nice but common. What are the things they have done? Having 5 teams per age group, using players from AS team play with lesser teams (and take playing time away from that teams players) so they can get a desired tournament result? Ok They have had multiple teams at certain ages - they had 2 tams for 2021 for at least 1 or 2 seasons, and that was a horror show!
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Didn't you guys know. Winkoff is one of the most influential people in the Lacrosse world as to US Magazine. Ever since that article he portrays himself as the almighty GOD of Long Island Lacrosse. He's says that he has started Lacrosse in urban communites on LI. Truth be told, he's never there or around them. Just when there is a camera.
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His latest and greatest is he used the Long Island Lacrosse Showcase to line his own pocket. Then has the nerve to have his FL$ coaches coach teams and use that as an opportunity to poach players for FL$. You cannot trust that man or anyone associated with that program.
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Wow you bring the tar and I'll bring the feathers and we can meet up in Huntington. Face it all Directors/Coaches do shady things to either line their pockets or bring kids into their program. Currently there is no regulatory body in place to monitor their activities. As parents we need to pick the one with the least warts.
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Why has the organization not put out a statement to it’s players
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His latest and greatest is he used the Long Island Lacrosse Showcase to line his own pocket. Then has the nerve to have his FL$ coaches coach teams and use that as an opportunity to poach players for FL$. You cannot trust that man or anyone associated with that program. You can't poach a player if they don't want to go to the organization
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Why has the organization not put out a statement to it’s players The two founders of the Corporation are having a disagreement on a buy out of ownership. Why do you think the customers deserve an explanation? What don't you know that a statement is going to tell you?
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You sound like you have an axe to grind. Pretty much every team poaches and they aren’t bad compared to the other big programs on the island.
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Who’s coaching 24 east 2026 and where are they located out of ?
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Who’s coaching 24 east 2026 and where are they located out of ? go on website.all coaches listed. one of the Reh's. based on north shore Mt.Sinia-Rocky Point.They have a lot to offer with great coaches.
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LOL. the guy listing all these "bad things" fl$ does/has done is comical and its clear he has an axe to grind and is grabbing at straws. He sounds desperate. Yawn. Been with other programs boys and girls-they run a nice program. Not perfect mind you, but none of the others are either.
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So Outlaws are better? Legacy, True Blue? You guys make me laugh.
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How did tryouts go, turnout, are kids staying with them
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How did tryouts go, turnout, are kids staying with them no one is leaving
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