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Another good turnout st United tryout. I saw a lot of talent there,
pretty rare for a second tryout

Express tryout a joke, Monday had all of the kids scrimmaging on one field, today scrimmaged on 2 fields but still to many kids to give a fair evaluation. Complete money grab!

So go to Viper

Were you there for pretryout date?
There are also kids tried out who could not make tryouts.
Offers are made to top players after each tryout.
Dont worry. Team of good players will form.

Completely disagree, they made 4 teams and scrimmaged the whole time. Every kid got multiple chances to show.

Very good B team

Do you realize how notIntelligent and ridiculous that sounds?? They selected kids from “pretryout”??? Then what the heck are tryouts for?? Do they have post tryouts too?? SMH Joke

But Chan is a liar and out for money?? For all his faults, at least Chan has proven results!

How much is 91 this year? Did it go up

I think United could be one of the better teams in this age group. I was at both tryouts and walked away very impressed by level of play and the coaching staff he has!

Whether you like JM or not, he can flat out coach. Big turnout at both Tryouts and lots of talent. Some of his old players returning, this team will be competitive like his old United teams.

Anyone know when United is posting results?

I wonder if they will be playing fall tournaments in Pa and Jersey to avoid competition. That was a past MO.

JM is a very good talker/practice coach. Come game time, he gets lost in the game and is not so good.

That obviously was a silly statement. They went to Jersey and PA and lost some games so obviously the competition is there too not just Long Island. Don't stir the pot no one is biting. The team will be very good and we will see what happens a year from now.

Let me restate. This fall. Historically it has been the MO for the team avoid competition in the fall. Not stirring anything.

Enough with the JM/United talk. He's so full of crap it's insane. Put together the old team, will be a downgrade from last years group.

The rebels already locked up some good players - It'll be a decent team

Actually, the MO was that other than the ones that 9D1 ran, Smash got to play the tourneys they wanted and United was discouraged from playing in the same ones because the organization didn't want the parents on their two teams talking smack about each other. Then they started going to the same tourneys and JM won a few times and all heck broke loose.

Its completely clear. And was stated in email reminding everyone about pretryouts. It said some spots would be filled from that pretryout.
So if exceptional kids were at that pretryout, then they did get an early offer. While others needed to be seen more at the regular tryouts.

And just like any other team, if some people cant make the tryouts, they tryout privately and may get an offer.

And after this weeks tryouts kids will be selected for spots on the team. As stated in the email.
But there still is a final tryout date on Aug 19, for any remaining spots.

And Rebels has had an open line of communication. They have been easy to contact to get any questions answered. A positive change from other clubs.

The first Igloo team hasn’t won a tounament in two years. The second team has more potential.

So where do go play? None below are top tier, but good lax

Legacy madness
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Igloo aspen
Express Schwalje
Outlaws, since the A team apparently left
91 palasek
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renegades.
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I say keep your money and move on. If your not on the top team your wasting your money. None of them will get your kid looked at for college.

Igloo aspen is way better than any team listed there. They are closer to AA than A.

What about Rebels? Saw their tryout and was thoroughly impressed. Well run, organized, great talent. Definitely one to watch.

More Rebels, lol. They got to love the air time. I hear there tattoo but one get one free at the local ink shop. All seriousness, good for them.

Fool. You know nothing

Ditto.
Really impressive tryouts. Seems to be well run organization.
Defenitely a team to watch for the upcoming season.

You know what they say about opinions........

I have no skin in the game so here is my opinion from what I saw at the tryout. My kid was only at the first tryout but the talent level was off the charts. But as we all know he is probably keeping most of his kids from last year and picking up only a few new kids.

Marksberry stinks as a coach. He did not win a single tournament last year. All heck didn't break loose. He won a few individual games, but won no tournaments. It wasn't the kids, they were pretty good, it was the coaching. Dingleberry and his United team did not win a single tournament and lost to two school teams. He kept chasing Smash and the other AA teams all season, but no one wants to waste their time playing him anymore. He and his team tells people that others are scared of them.

United and Smash played in LI Laxfest at Farmingdale beginning of summer, 2018. Both teams made it to the Championship. Smash offered co-championship to United so the teams could both walk away as winners and United could at least say they won one tournament. United insisted on playing the championship game and actually thought they were going to win! United competed for the first 3 minutes, but Smash destroyed United 11-3. It was a tournament run by 91, so 91 posted a score of 9-3 so United would not look so bad. Dingleberry still runs around and spreads rumors that 91 did not support them. That's why he is a dingleberry - he is small, annoying, not dangeous but keeps hanging in there and won't go away.

Anyone rejoining United is as pathetic as the coach who thinks he is better than he really is. He lost a good attack, picked up another attack and picked up a top defender. Otherwise exact same team.

Wow - Why are you so Mad at JM? What did he do that is so different than any other Club Coach? Not play kids during tournaments? Add more kids during the season? take kids from TX? This is competitive Club Lacrosse, that's what all the top teams do. Is it right, no but JM is no different then all the big clubs.

With regards to his coaching - before the formation of the 91 WSYL Super team, his United teams were one of the top teams on LI beating Express, Igloo and winning more tournaments then Smash, without having the the top players.

I don't know how United will be this year but I am hoping they are competitive. It's good for LI Lacrosse to have more competitive teams.

I don't get it? Trainin and playing is what makes a better player correct? So coaching should be the main focus. So why would people flock to the Rebels when you have a kid for a head coach and two PAL coaches for assistants? And it will be a brand new team and all the tourns will be recruiting ones!

Because they are good commutators...that’s organizational now, wait when it’s the team level where a lot of coaches are completely inept at sending and replying to emails. But I will give them credit, I some how am on their mailing list and see a lot.

Anyone rejoining United is as pathetic as the coach who thinks he is better than he really is. He lost a good attack, picked up another attack and picked up a top defender. Otherwise exact same team.[/quote]

If that is the case then shame on him ! I was at the tryouts and will say there was enough talent to run with nearly any team on Long Island! i get being loyal to some but at what expense? You could pick a new team with all great players and actually be competitive but I guess not.

If you are looking for a well trained team where your son will have fun, get better, and not cost you thousands, Viper is a good place to play. College coaches are not looking at 2022's for another 2 years. Let your son develop and have fun for now.

Another stunad with a keyboard! Stupidest statement of the year, and there a lot of notIntelligent comments on here! There are kids who play ZERO club lacrosse who have been recruited and play D 1!lax! stunad!

Commutators??
Wait! Is your kid in a math club?
I think your on the wrong forum.
This is a lacrosse forum.

Complete nonsense.

Communicators, I was joking and it was a typo.

Rebels send out emails yet?

So on top of all of your postings trashing Marksberry you now feel it's necessary to trash and name call the parents/players that have decided to join United? If you have such a huge problem with Marksberry (it's obvious you do) than why don't you say it to his face instead of hiding behind a keyboard as an anonymous person? In addition to that why do you care at all since it's very clear you don't like the guy. Did he steal some players from your team or cut someone you know? I was at that game against Smash, United played them tough and were actually winning up until almost half time. Approximately 18-19 minutes into the game. Check the video. I have. Yes they were stomped this past year by some AA teams, but truth be told it had very little to do with Marksberry. Much of it was due to simple mistakes by the team in general (passing, catching, positioning, etc). Their main problem was consistency. They played some games at a level which would compete with ANY AA team and then there were games where many mistakes were made and they were beaten. I doubt you were there watching them throughout this past season, yet you believe you are an authority on the team. I don't know a lot about JM, but I watched him throughout the season challenge the boys, build up their confidence and have outstanding practices. Yes he made mistakes and could have done some things differently. No doubt. He's no different than most of the coaches out there on top clubs. They all have egos to some degree. Having a healthy ego is a necessity if you want to coach a successful team. Im not saying he is some amazing coach (he isn't), but to say he is a poor coach and doesn't know what he is doing is WAY off. Oh and by the way, I never heard him say other teams were scared of United. What he did say to the boys is that many of the other top clubs do not feel United is good enough to even be on the same field as them. He stressed to them that they were excellent players and can play with any team out there. Any good coach would do the same. We all know many of the top teams as well as some of their parents have a very pretentious attitude. I find this to be hilarious especially coming from the parents who don't even play. To those parents, it's just lax folks. Settle down. You're no better than anyone else. People can be ridiculous.
So with all due respect keep your anger toward JM out of your opinion because it's blatantly obvious your issue with him is a personal one. As I said before why don't you speak with him in person and get it off your chest because it's weighing heavy on you. Otherwise you should move on. Your hate posts are getting tiring.