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In your opinions which 2022 Long Island club lax team (A and AA) would be the best choice to tryout/join? In terms of coaching and development.....


Not Express at this age group! They give you zero infomation about the upcoming year. Just show up, s/u and pay the fees. Ridiculous.

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Yes keep paying thank you

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...and that's the tricky part....unless your son (or daughter) is a top AA player, in my experience, you'll have to work to get the information and guidance you're looking for. Also have to be strong enough to ask, not whine about what's not being handed to you, even tho you're a paying customer. It's not right, but it's just different than almost any other thing you'll buy because you're kid is directly affected and in the hands of people who have many many kids and parents all looking to get the most attention and the most recognition. Emotions can run extremely high. Navigate intelligently looking for maximum development, maximum playing time, maximum fun and interest for the kid, while assessing what level they are eventually looking for (HS, D3, D2, D1) while being VERY honest and realistic and while balancing travel and cost. How badly the kid wants it is extremely critical. Whew. This is easy for few, but you need to be able to establish a line of communication with the coach or director that is comfortable for both. Without that, frustration ensues, but, it can be found at Express or any other club...if all these things match well for you personally.

Good luck!

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Seen at Bing - the Penguin in deep conversation with Junior’s dad. Is the Penguin leaving the Arctic Circle to go back to the land of Orange?

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...and that's the tricky part....unless your son (or daughter) is a top AA player, in my experience, you'll have to work to get the information and guidance you're looking for. Also have to be strong enough to ask, not whine about what's not being handed to you, even tho you're a paying customer. It's not right, but it's just different than almost any other thing you'll buy because you're kid is directly affected and in the hands of people who have many many kids and parents all looking to get the most attention and the most recognition. Emotions can run extremely high. Navigate intelligently looking for maximum development, maximum playing time, maximum fun and interest for the kid, while assessing what level they are eventually looking for (HS, D3, D2, D1) while being VERY honest and realistic and while balancing travel and cost. How badly the kid wants it is extremely critical. Whew. This is easy for few, but you need to be able to establish a line of communication with the coach or director that is comfortable for both. Without that, frustration ensues, but, it can be found at Express or any other club...if all these things match well for you personally.

Good luck!


Well written.....You need to know who is coaching you child. Your child can grow as a player on a C,B,A,AA team.... If, and only if, you get a great dedicated coach. Unfortunately, at the larger clubs, the best coaches are coaching AA teams. Other teams get filled by family members, friends or college kids. Then its just luck of the draw.....buyer beware. Personally we have had great seasons and terrible seasons at the same club. Carefully look at the tryout info produced club's websites. Less info given, more to be concerned about.

The sad thing is that for the money you spend, you would think the club would have some sort of plan for these kids. They have been doing it long enough The total lack of communication from the directors infers the could careless as long as the money rolls in.

At the same time, parents seem to never voice their concerns to the club out of fear. Fear of what, who knows.

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Seems obvious to me....fear that they blow it, aggravate the coach/director and the kid will pay for the mistake.

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Lefty attack from igloo is going back to 91. Penguin is headed back. This is 100% true. Igloo in crisis mode.

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Lefty attack from igloo is going back to 91. Penguin is headed back. This is 100% true. Igloo in crisis mode.


I find that hard to believe. JR get 100% of the touches on 91. On igloo he is the man and he will be relegated to just get the ball to JR and clear out on 91. Also other coach’s son is a lefty.

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How is the turnout at the tryouts? Heard 91 was light.

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Better get The Beast or Baptise as your FOGO. Can’t be enough balls to go around

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Everybody was saying the Rebels will be a money grab or a shoot off of the Outlaws a while back! Can't wait to see what kids show up tomorrow. Their gonna have to cook a lot of crow to feed all the nay Sayers, haha!

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Everybody was saying the Rebels will be a money grab or a shoot off of the Outlaws a while back! Can't wait to see what kids show up tomorrow. Their gonna have to cook a lot of crow to feed all the nay Sayers, haha!


Only time will tell but I have to admit, they are impressing me already.
Within an hour of registrating, they called and thanked us. Asked if we had any questions.....That is one more called than we ever received from large clubs in 6 years!

They already said one team per age group so they will be cuts.... no money grab. Coaches are named and so are the tourneys.

Still a long way to go but at least they are organized!

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How is the turnout at the tryouts? Heard 91 was light.


Yes light at this age group but it seems like many returning players from 91 are not attending.

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Better get The Beast or Baptise as your FOGO. Can’t be enough balls to go around

Look at the igloo damage control going on here. I think the best igloo kids realize that team is sinking fast

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Lefty attack from igloo is going back to 91. Penguin is headed back. This is 100% true. Igloo in crisis mode.


Ball hog

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91 united lost in first round of playoffs in the B bracket. Lost to laxachussets third team in pool play. Yeah that screams AA. Can everyone on that team please stop talking nonsense now.



United lost to Laxachussets Navy, their worst team, and lost to CSC, a Texas B Team, at NLF. United also lost to two school JV teams at Hills vs Autism tournament the week before.

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How is the turnout at the tryouts? Heard 91 was light.


Yes light at this age group but it seems like many returning players from 91 are not attending.


Makes sense. Teams like Smash add via recruitment not at tryouts, sorry it’s the truth. United players are with the new club. And that leaves very little interest in playing at 2022 level for this club in my opinion. It’s 9th grade kids don’t move that much. They either stick with their club or just do the school fall and summer teams, which have become in some cases nice options.

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Fake news

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Lefty attack from igloo is going back to 91. Penguin is headed back. This is 100% true. Igloo in crisis mode.


Ball hog


Was never on 91 - and we all know who the true ball hog is. It’s funny how they lose their last tournament because he wasn’t there and it’s crickets all of a sudden.

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Does anyone know if there is a possibility of any movement in 91 Smash in regard to the goalie position? I believe the first goalie is a relative of coach, etc. Obviously he's guaranteed a spot. Any possibility of replacement of the other goalie with a new recruit or is he guaranteed a spot as well? Just curious.

Also, in regard to Igloo 2022AA anyone have any idea how talented their goalies are. How is the talent on that team as a whole? I heard there may be a lot of changes.

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Why bother trying out for the Rebels 2022? If it’s just the outlaws , the team is set already. If they are only carrying 1 team it doesn’t really make sense to try out.

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Why bother trying out for the Rebels 2022? If it’s just the outlaws , the team is set already. If they are only carrying 1 team it doesn’t really make sense to try out.

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Why bother trying out for the Rebels 2022? If it’s just the outlaws , the team is set already. If they are only carrying 1 team it doesn’t really make sense to try out.


Lots of talent at the tryouts today... not so sure they just take the outlaws guys when they can have one of best teams around based on the talent.

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Does anyone know if there is a possibility of any movement in 91 Smash in regard to the goalie position? I believe the first goalie is a relative of coach, etc. Obviously he's guaranteed a spot. Any possibility of replacement of the other goalie with a new recruit or is he guaranteed a spot as well? Just curious.

Also, in regard to Igloo 2022AA anyone have any idea how talented their goalies are. How is the talent on that team as a whole? I heard there may be a lot of changes.



Why don’t you go to the tryouts and see for yourself???

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Why bother trying out for the Rebels 2022? If it’s just the outlaws , the team is set already. If they are only carrying 1 team it doesn’t really make sense to try out.


Not what I heard from some people at tryouts today! Heard there were a few elite players from the outlaws and the rest were B level at best.

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Why bother trying out for the Rebels 2022? If it’s just the outlaws , the team is set already. If they are only carrying 1 team it doesn’t really make sense to try out.


Rebels is not the Outlaws. Some Outlaw kids will try out. But in the end they will take the best kids at tryouts.

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Why bother trying out for the Rebels 2022? If it’s just the outlaws , the team is set already. If they are only carrying 1 team it doesn’t really make sense to try out.


That’s if the whole team come over. Don’t think for a second that some players tryout at another club or two. There is always uncertainty, the team didn’t do any better or worse this past season and players will explore moving.

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Rebekah will be very very good this upcoming year. All the top players moving over


The Outlaws team from last year was good, definitely A. They need to add to be “very very” good. They have some players that can contribute on the top 3. Why wouldn’t those kids test the water and see? If your son has a desire to play in college, they really should look at 91 or Express. But only if they can play. Being on the bench is a waste. That’s why I say test the waters. But I do t see a starter from the top 3 moving to a new club.

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Seems to me many of top kids will be switching to Rebels think this team will be one of the tops in this grade

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Better get The Beast or Baptise as your FOGO. Can’t be enough balls to go around

Look at the igloo damage control going on here. I think the best igloo kids realize that team is sinking fast



So crazy because igloo was the best at so many tournaments last summer. Hard to believe the team change so much.

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Does anyone have any info on the United Tryout?

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Why bother trying out for the Rebels 2022? If it’s just the outlaws , the team is set already. If they are only carrying 1 team it doesn’t really make sense to try out.

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Why bother trying out for the Rebels 2022? If it’s just the outlaws , the team is set already. If they are only carrying 1 team it doesn’t really make sense to try out.


Lots of talent at the tryouts today... not so sure they just take the outlaws guys when they can have one of best teams around based on the talent.

Agreed this is a team to watch

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Why bother trying out for the Rebels 2022? If it’s just the outlaws , the team is set already. If they are only carrying 1 team it doesn’t really make sense to try out.


That’s if the whole team come over. Don’t think for a second that some players tryout at another club or two. There is always uncertainty, the team didn’t do any better or worse this past season and players will explore moving.


Lets face facts, the Rebels will be almost the same as Outlaws Select last year. A good team with some great players! They will be a B+/A team again and hopefully won't duck the competition this year. Even though they went to a lot of away tournaments and still got there butts kicked!

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Big jump for a 2022 to a brand new club....... especially so late in their lax career.

Very tempting.......lets see if the can keep up their customer service.....maybe the big clubs will have to wale up.3ky

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Seen at Bing - the Penguin in deep conversation with Junior’s dad. Is the Penguin leaving the Arctic Circle to go back to the land of Orange?

WOW you saw the dads talking that means JR and ML are teaming up thanks for reporting TMZ

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And that’s the problem with LI lacrosse. Parents like you who think your son won’t play in college unless you play for 91 or express. Chan is too involved $$ with a certain north shore town to help anyone else with recruitment. There’s a long list of favors that have to repaid regardless of how good your son is. 91 is a little better, not much. Big 3? I guess you mean igloo? not much of a history with recruiting.

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And that’s the problem with LI lacrosse. Parents like you who think your son won’t play in college unless you play for 91 or express. Chan is too involved $$ with a certain north shore town to help anyone else with recruitment. There’s a long list of favors that have to repaid regardless of how good your son is. 91 is a little better, not much. Big 3? I guess you mean igloo? not much of a history with recruiting.


True... my older son plays D1 and played outlaws for 4 years.. they were not the top club on LI but he got recruited because he was good and when you are good they find you anywhere. That is a fact!

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Seems to me many of top kids will be switching to Rebels think this team will be one of the tops in this grade


Thanks for the inside skinny, Carc. Yawn

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Neither son will play D1.


You obviously have not been through this before... don’t need to be on best team to be recruited... period

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And that’s the problem with LI lacrosse. Parents like you who think your son won’t play in college unless you play for 91 or express. Chan is too involved $$ with a certain north shore town to help anyone else with recruitment. There’s a long list of favors that have to repaid regardless of how good your son is. 91 is a little better, not much. Big 3? I guess you mean igloo? not much of a history with recruiting.


True... my older son plays D1 and played outlaws for 4 years.. they were not the top club on LI but he got recruited because he was good and when you are good they find you anywhere. That is a fact!


Correct, but playing with Express will increase those looks and that’s fact. They have better contact points. I know from personal experience. Believe or not, don’t care, your lost opportunity after this huge investment you have made.

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Hello to those of you who feel it necessary to name call parents of young athletes; type the initials of the athletes; paying attention to who is talking to who on the sideline. YOU ARE DISGUSTING. Why to you care? Pay attention to your child and your business. Keep it in perspective -- this is lacrosse, a game - no one here is saving the world.

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