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The BBL program is building bigger brand in NJ,the addition of the North teams over last year makes them the bigger player. North Jersey has been looking for a powerhouse program and they may be the one. If they tap the better players it will push out some the other smaller clubs.

Agreed, BBL has made tremendous strides in growing a successful program, but, like other clubs in NJ, they run the risk of diluting the product. If a kid does not make the BBL elite team, they will eventually move on to another program. BBL is not a brand like Express or 91 where parents are willing to pay for the name even if their kid is not on the top team. That is not meant as a knock on BBL, or the talent on their teams, just the reality faced by clubs in NJ. I think that teams need to stick with what they are good at and not try and take over the world. BBL elite is a very successful model, why do they need to have multiple teams that may compete at the B and C levels, there are other clubs in the state that fill that role. The best way to attract the top talent is to have a team that kids aspire to play for, the top BBL, Blue Star, Tri-State and Leading Edge teams are where kids tend to gravitate to if they want to play at a more competitive level, not sure whether it pays for a club like BBL to push out smaller clubs and have developmental teams with the hopes that kids will move up through the system. Just as a disclaimer, I realize that this same argument applies to all of the top clubs in NJ, I only focused on BBL because they were mentioned above.

Let's go Colts! lol

Thoughts on Patriot?

Anyone know anything about the '25 BBL team or the '25 Tribal team from South Jersey. Was told Tribal is the best '25 team in the state, up there with the Hawks, HHH, and LI Express.

Don't know much about tribal program, but I have seen some teams at a few tournaments. I do not recall any of their teams playing in the top brackets, but perhaps you can try and dig through Tourney Machine for results from this past summer, that would certainly give you a little more persepctive than somebody simply stating that they are the best team in NJ. Traditionally, Tribal is not one of the programs that would enter into the discussion about the top teams in NJ, but things can change year-to-year. The question also seems a little odd considering that BBL and Tribal cover different markets. Who really cares who the best '25 team is in the State, it seems that the post is really looking for some validation for Tribal as opposed to any real insight into the two programs. If you are looking for the best fit for your child then it seems that the best comparison would be some of the Philly area teams, if you are simply looking for an ego boost that Tribal is the best, good luck

Tribal has very solid tournament schedule.

Victory Events Summer Slam, June 22/23 (dates not confirmed)

Young Guns Invitational, July 6/7 (dates not confirmed)

Naptown Challenge, July 8/9 (dates not confirmed)

NLF National Championship, July 18-21 (dates not confirmed)

Definitely a tough schedule, should be a good indicator of their talent

Mad Dog picked up a few new players and coach. They won a few tournaments last year, they should be even better this year.

The Tribal website says "possible tournaments". Given the schedule of last year, this possible schedule may be a stretch.

It is definitely a very aggressive schedule, good for them if they play it and do well, otherwise it could be a long summer. That said, the only way to get better is to play a tougher schedule, not much long term value in beating up less talented teams every weekend.

Still waiting for the top clubs in NJ to create a spring league. No reason to drive to Philly.

I could not agree more, but for some reason the NJ teams do not like to play each other. You do see a lot of Philly kids move around from team to team each year, perhaps the Jersey teams want to protect their product. The other issue is that NJ does not really have a great centrally located multi field turf venue like the proving grounds.

What about a league in Northern NJ closer to Westchester & CT clubs to have not just NJ team but teams like PrimeTime, 3D Tristate, CT Valley, Predators, Express North & so on?

Great concept, but it defeats the idea of a NJ league..central and south NJ teams will probably just end up in NXT mid-atlantic...a league out of central Jersey near the turnpike (i.e. Rutgers area) would be ideal (and it would be a good way to promote Rutgers lax), but it seems to be wishful thinking

If they play these tournaments in the AA bracket and are competitive, then they should be considered elite.

OK, and then what, they just want be considered elite?....what's the point..you are spending too much time on the Maryland forum reading the nonsensical posts about HOCO, etc....if they play well in AA, then they will be considered a good AA team along with the other good AA teams

Ok, what would you suggest everyone post? Go Colts!

OK, and then what, they just want be considered elite?....what's the point..you are spending too much time on the Maryland forum reading the nonsensical posts about HOCO, etc....if they play well in AA, then they will be considered a good AA team along with the other good AA teams[/quote]

Ok, what would you suggest everyone post? Go Colts![/quote]

Anything other than somebody searching desperately for validation of their kids team....if the team does well, terrific, but why does the poster care whether the team is considered elite, it means nothing, it is not a standard. What is the poster going to do when their kids team starts getting beat down by the big holdback programs in a few years..will their team no longer be "elite"...no, the argument will then be that the team is elite but is unfairly faced with the holdbacks...it is a never ending cycle

Ok, what would you suggest everyone post? Go Colts![/quote]

Anything other than somebody searching desperately for validation of their kids team....if the team does well, terrific, but why does the poster care whether the team is considered elite, it means nothing, it is not a standard. What is the poster going to do when their kids team starts getting beat down by the big holdback programs in a few years..will their team no longer be "elite"...no, the argument will then be that the team is elite but is unfairly faced with the holdbacks...it is a never ending cycle
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It doesn't sounds like someone desperately searching. It sounded like they just want to know where their team fits. Let them play the teams and see if they are competitive (or elite, whatever you want to call it). Not sure why you are getting bent on this.

Anything other than somebody searching desperately for validation of their kids team....if the team does well, terrific, but why does the poster care whether the team is considered elite, it means nothing, it is not a standard. What is the poster going to do when their kids team starts getting beat down by the big holdback programs in a few years..will their team no longer be "elite"...no, the argument will then be that the team is elite but is unfairly faced with the holdbacks...it is a never ending cycle
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It doesn't sounds like someone desperately searching. It sounded like they just want to know where their team fits. Let them play the teams and see if they are competitive (or elite, whatever you want to call it). Not sure why you are getting bent on this. [/quote]

You just summed up exactly why it is frustrating... as you state "Let them play the teams and see if they are competitive (or elite, whatever you want to call it)"....this is my point, play and see what happens...the teams record will dictate how they are perceived, not some meaningless label.

Patriot is a great club. If you believe that great coaching, excellent communication from club ownership, access to the recruiting director, and a solid reputation with College Coaches are important for a club. I have been a Patriot parent for six great years.

the BBL 2023 life st to the 2024 legacy team

Did the legacy team play up. or is BBL holding kids back

It had to be '24 BBL 24

My son plays for riot 2021, they have good coaches and well tun

Looking at BBL, how many teams do they have at each age and does quality hold from the first team to the b team? I have seen their teams in 2024 listed as BBL Elite, BBL Black and BBL Helix. Do they really put togeher 3 quality teams?

No NJ club puts 3 quality team together. Reach out to BBL and see if you can get your kid on the team. If he is good they will find a spot, another option is to find out where the kids in his town play. Reach out to that club and see if you can get a spot.

Didnt NJLC send 3 teams to Adrenaline in Delaware and went 3-0, 3-0, 2-1, this Sunday?

The comment was about having 3 teams in the same age group, not 3 teams overall, any NJ club that thinks that they can carry 3 competitive teams at an age group will be doing some soul searching eventually...and nice job by NJLC representing NJ lax

The question was 3 teams at one age group.

Adrenaline is a B tournament good teams were at Terrapin Fall Classic.

gatcha. thanks

Go back to the Maryland forum, nobody cares

NJLC is a NJ team, another NJ team Leading Edge was as the Terrapin Fall Classic.

Not sure what you're talking about!

I am talking about your knock on another team for playing in what you perceive to be a B tournament and that "good teams were at Terrapin Fall Classic"... The fact that LE or any other team, was at the tournament is irrelevant, just comes off as the type of comment that is typical to the Md. and LI forums

Reread what you're posted. The original question was asking if any NJ club has 3 good teams at one age.
You took it as an opportunity to post about NJLC having a good showing at a tournament against teams you should beat. If you would have posted. NJLC had a good showing this weekend at Adrenaline no one would have said anything.

was it a B tournament? I mean there are those...right?

I thought the topic was 3 good teams by one club. I stood corrected by another person, (3 teams, same age). Seemed over at that piont, but here we are.

Funny how you made an honest mistake, corrected it...but somehow somebody thought that it was a good opportunity to knock the tournament as a B tournament, and then come back with some ridiculous post about how you should have written your initial which makes absolutely no sense...as I stated earlier, glad that NJLC had a great weekend, congrats.

Agree, NJLC has always put together good teams, some of the better High School teams in NJ. With the programs like Mad Dog & Turnpike who seem to lose teams & players when they hit High School, NJLC should continue to develop players and field, strong teams. I could be wrong but they might be the only non-NLF club to send teams to NLF events.