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Just looked at the list of players that were invited to try out for the US National U19 Team. I think 21 of the 27 players selected from Long Island were / are Long Island Under Armour players. I do not believe that the same people are involved in selecting the players.

If you do not believe that Kelly Amonte Hiller wants to field the best team possible you are beyond help.

UA does a very good job.

The U19 tryout selections were based on an application process and Amonte Hiller has not seen the majority play. Being on the UA team I would think was one of the reasons many were selected. If you did not put in an application you were not selected and I believe a lot of to layers did not for various reasons.

DG = Bye, Felicia!!!

The U19 tryout selections were based on an application process and Amonte Hiller has not seen the majority play. Being on the UA team I would think was one of the reasons many were selected. If you did not put in an application you were not selected and I believe a lot of to layers did not for various reasons.

What??????????????

DG = Bye, Felicia!!!

DG = Bye, Felicia!!!

what does that mean? There has to be some reason for it. what is it?

was she teacher at mhs? what happens with that job?

That’s what is so hillarious . The coaches in college , the evaluators of UA etc keep telling you that your daughter is too fat and unskilled so they just take the back up middies to play defense yet you keep telling yourself it’s not true . Powderfinger only puts powder on his fingers to mask the smell of the BS he has been digging in all his life. Please tell us the programs that don’t recruit middies before defense or even tell us a top program in the country that the majority of their starting defenders did not play middie in high school . Sorry powder but from now on I will just abuse your nonsensical posts because you have proven yourself to be so ill informed .

I heard that Dave K. has been offered the job....

Yes, they wanted another travel lax director who had experience robbing school districts & parents blind......

Dude, so much vile you spew. I'm doing fine and so are my kids. You do you and see how that works out.

You should have just left it at you don’t agree with moving middies to defense during tryouts but you had to act as if playing defense in lacrosse is some mystery to midfielders that only you know the truth about “ They don’t understand the slide” . Yes because that is just such a difficult concept to understand .We get it your kid plays defense and you need to believe that only the best play defense in high school because you cannot accept that she never developed the stick skills or athleticism to play midfield .

interested?....kids have to pay you to sit in the classroom.....and you get to charge them for pens and paper..

The fact that you're still chirping indicates to all that a nerve has been struck. I've been around the game longer than probably everyone on here, I know what I know. Your anonymous attempt to condescend just reflects on you.

We have heard it many times: "Defense wins championships". However, some on this site will never get it. Most of the people who do not get it were never competitive athletes and many have daughters who do not play on competitive teams and will not play at a top 10 college program.

The people that know (high level coaches and players) will tell you just how important defense is. You can not hide anyone on defense and you can not put a selfish player or a weak athlete on the defensive end of the field without negative consequences.

Here is a direct quote from Cornell player Joey Coffee from Lacrosse Magazine:

"Going into my junior year, when I struggled with what it means to be black in this sport, I played a lot of defense that year. It continued to chip away at my mental game. It was almost like a demotion. In my coaches’ eyes, it was really a promotion — an opportunity to really hone in on an innate skill I have of being really athletic and having good feet. But because of these experiences and the way I perceived black female lacrosse players in the past, I thought this was a demotion.

I’m sure you’ve seen that a lot of black lacrosse players tend to be on the defensive end. It does send a message about how we ended up here. Was it solely because we were athletic? Or was it because of the entire package? I’d argue it’s the entire package, but perception is everything in life."

I would agree, it is the "entire package". Smart coaches want their best athletes on the defensive end of the field.

Here is another quote, this one from BC Head Coach Acacia Walker:

“A lot of people talk about our offense, but every single person in our program knows that the defense is 100% the backbone of our team,” Walker-W says. “Not only the backbone, but sort of the stabilizer. They have played such a huge role in any and all of the success that we’ve had. Everyone likes to talk about the goal scorers, but the goal scorers will tell you it’s Lauren Daly back there, it’s Carly Bell back there, Elizabeth Miller, Brooke Troy, Hannah Hyatt. We just have so much experience and they are really the heart and soul of our team.”

Even more important than athleticism is the players mental makeup / mindset. The player must be mentally tough and selfless.

I have read on this site that defense is the easiest way to get on the field in college. Nothing could be further from reality.

Newsday (which is a rag), Know nothing parents and foolish youth / HS coaches are the only ones who do not get it.

BTW, my daughters play midfield. Oh, my son, he is a defender. ;-)

Go watch a game with someone who played or coached a high level college sport or played a professional sport and ask them their opinion on defensive players.

First off , is there anyone on this site who has said defense is not important. Second , it could be stated that defense on the college level is so important that the college coaches many times recruit high school midfielders because they are the best athletes to play defense .The fact that you use BC and Walker in your post is a great example as her AA defender was a midfielder in high school . Honestly you clowns make it too easy .

First off , is there anyone on this site who has said defense is not important. Second , it could be stated that defense on the college level is so important that the college coaches many times recruit high school midfielders because they are the best athletes to play defense .The fact that you use BC and Walker in your post is a great example as her AA defender was a midfielder in high school . Honestly you clowns make it too easy .

The U19 tryout selections were based on an application process and Amonte Hiller has not seen the majority play. Being on the UA team I would think was one of the reasons many were selected. If you did not put in an application you were not selected and I believe a lot of to layers did not for various reasons.

I'll definitely agree with you that college coaches recruit middies and turn them into defense or attack. I'll also agree that more middies are recruited than any other position. Middies are great athletes and play offense and defense, as we all know.

However, the snide remarks by some posters saying that defenders don't have the athleticism or stick skills to cut it as a middie on their high school team are ridiculous.

If you have a really strong HS team, every single player on the field is an athlete with excellent stick skills. If you have a weaker team, other arguments may apply. So the blanket statements made by some posters don't hold up, IMO.

I'd rather be 1 of 12 strong players on a championship team, than a superstar on a team going nowhere. However, we don't always get to choose, so we make the best of the situation.

Enjoy the beautiful game girls!

SO do you because plenty of posters on this site have said defense is not important, or that you hide weak players on defense, or that if you have weak stick skill you play defense. So does that make you the chief clown Bozo?

[ Why do you think your kid plays defense and not midfield ? I would say you are a clown but really your just sad .

How could some of the top 2018s be too old, when there are quite of few 2017s who have already completed a year of college on the invite list?

First off , is there anyone on this site who has said defense is not important. Second , it could be stated that defense on the college level is so important that the college coaches many times recruit high school midfielders because they are the best athletes to play defense .The fact that you use BC and Walker in your post is a great example as her AA defender was a midfielder in high school . Honestly you clowns make it too easy .

And there's the insult. Exactly what sort of stick skills do defenders lack? Shooting behind the back? Not needed on D, and frankly not needed on O either. It's fancy, it's showy, and it misses more than it hits. They go lefty and righty, they catch, pass and run like all the other players on the field. They have an entirely different skill set than offense and for you to think it's all abut stick tricks is a joke and shows a lack of understanding of the game.

DG “out” at Set’......win a ship, lose your job!

And there's the insult. Exactly what sort of stick skills do defenders lack? Shooting behind the back? Not needed on D, and frankly not needed on O either. It's fancy, it's showy, and it misses more than it hits. They go lefty and righty, they catch, pass and run like all the other players on the field. They have an entirely different skill set than offense and for you to think it's all abut stick tricks is a joke and shows a lack of understanding of the game.