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As a parent on the O’Rielly B team I have to agree we are not getting any of the coaching that is so desperately needed. O’Reillys greatest strengths as a coach was always developing a strong offense and that is all gone. He always played the kids fairly, but now there are twenty minute blocks that keep the same kids playing who aren’t able to accomplish any actual plays. O’Reillys team is thankful to have coach Matt whose focus is defense and with his guidance O’Reilly finally has a strong defense line. It’s really sad what has happened to the team. But there isn’t a lot of commitment with this years line of offense. Too many other sports and other events to take practice seriously enough to make a difference. And you have to keep the lines strong. If kids can’t catch and throw and now the basic fundamentals that should and usually are required to be on a B team then it’s just going to keep falling apart.


What I watched the Middies had no interest in getting the attack involved. Whole quarters where the attack didn't get passed the ball. That's unacceptable on any winning team. If the commitment isn't there then the kids shouldn't see much field time. If they don't come to practice, then no playing time. Cannot develop as a team if kids miss practice.


Need to cut all of the RVC "Superstars". But that would cost Chan money.

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Team Meaethead

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Does anyone know if Roar takes kids outside of CSH?

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Does anyone know if Roar takes kids outside of CSH?


No, they're for CSH kids only. Just like GC Rams is garden city only

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Anyone know anything about a new team out east I heard was starting up? Where can I find info?

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Anyone know anything about a team called outeast starting up? Where can I find info?


On the web, come on just Google it and don’t be so lazy!

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Are the coaches that are breaking away from the ducks, still coaching at the ducks?
Ducks are not looking great this season. Is that the reason?[/quote]

The leader of the Ducks breaking away screwed the kids the summer he left 91 to run his own program. Now he is screwing these little ducklings who are getting killed at every event as he stops doing the right thing and leaves again. Fool me once, fool me twice, who wants to give this greedy man a third try.

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tryouts are around the corner. What kind of player movement is to be expected? Are the Ducks staying together as that new program? Geese parents throwing in the towel? 91 and Express adding to an already oversized roster? Which teams are the losers and winners? Which program is the dark horse to end up with the disgruntled families and surprise next year? Predictions?

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If the Geese parents are smart they would call a meeting with TZ, and get that team back together. If they had remained intact they would be really tough to beat. If Legacy could figure out the coaching and somehow work some sort of magic to get back the good kids that left it could be a nice group. That is of course if some of those parents can look past themselves and see the kids. Because they are the ones playing the game, not the parents.

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Those parents that left are nuts ... Good Luck too whoever gets them... The legacy team now is a good spot with no drama ....

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Those parents that left are nuts ... Good Luck too whoever gets them... The legacy team now is a good spot with no drama ....


No real tourney wins either

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Those parents that left are nuts ... Good Luck too whoever gets them... The legacy team now is a good spot with no drama ....


No real tourney wins either





5th grade tourney wins ? That's what its about ? Good for the Geese to rid themselves of the cancer.

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tryouts are around the corner. What kind of player movement is to be expected? Are the Ducks staying together as that new program? Geese parents throwing in the towel? 91 and Express adding to an already oversized roster? Which teams are the losers and winners? Which program is the dark horse to end up with the disgruntled families and surprise next year? Predictions?


Predictions with no facts, just wate cooler conversation and 100% opinion. Ducks A will stay, why not. Solid team and can continue to add. Geese are likely fine, one little rift, which happens everywhere, turns into team falling apart???? Really, not.buying it. Best 2nd team of the group is Legacy team. The Geese will recover and reload. 91 recovered the A team this ywae and is a top team again. No 2nd team this year shows they had to build out A, but now can add a United or Warrior type 2nd team. Express built out A the last two years and is the best team on LI (it's true for now). BUT their real B team is on the bench of the A team . They'll try the unoriginal idea of splitting, and have it coached by a cast of 100s. But it will fail a's people are more skeptical and be one team of 33 by Dec. In the end, it's club lacrosse the top players will still be the focal point and everyone else will be disgruntled.

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The team had something special, very sad where
it went! Many are moving on to new teams, drama
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Those parents that left are nuts ... Good Luck too whoever gets them... The legacy team now is a good spot with no drama ....


As you say that the backdoor deals have already been made. More leaving...

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I'm curious to see if 91 can form another 2025 team besides the blast

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I'm curious to see if 91 can form another 2025 team besides the blast


All second teams need is a dedicated coach. Like the warriors and aspen extreme have proved. Any type of hybrid that pretends to be something it isn't, FAILS. It has never worked. Teams need to be 100% independent of one another. Same amount practice and most important different coaches.

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I'm curious to see if 91 can form another 2025 team besides the blast


All second teams need is a dedicated coach. Like the warriors and aspen extreme have proved. Any type of hybrid that pretends to be something it isn't, FAILS. It has never worked. Teams need to be 100% independent of one another. Same amount practice and most important different coaches.


Very well said! other than Legacy Blue Devils haven't seen a B team that had any real form of support and dedication from the organization.

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Rebels are taking all left overs from the geese. They started by taking in the dad Islip coach now hes reaching out to geese players to have them come to his team. Youth Lacrosse is a money maker wake up people, no one cares about the kids..

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I'm curious to see if 91 can form another 2025 team besides the blast


All second teams need is a dedicated coach. Like the warriors and aspen extreme have proved. Any type of hybrid that pretends to be something it isn't, FAILS. It has never worked. Teams need to be 100% independent of one another. Same amount practice and most important different coaches.


Very well said! other than Legacy Blue Devils haven't seen a B team that had any real form of support and dedication from the organization.


Yeah, that's our parent perspective. But on the business side success for a B team sometimes isn't measured by wins and losses in my opinion. They are used to reciprocate in tourneys and add revenue based on the clubs success on A level. Nothing wrong with that, but put some thought into it and dont give it to a coach that has 3 teams already...makes no sense. Tryouts are for the 2nd teams after all. These elite teams are only adding kids they already know or somebody sent down. It's a small lax world.

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As a parent on the O’Rielly B team I have to agree we are not getting any of the coaching that is so desperately needed. O’Reillys greatest strengths as a coach was always developing a strong offense and that is all gone. He always played the kids fairly, but now there are twenty minute blocks that keep the same kids playing who aren’t able to accomplish any actual plays. O’Reillys team is thankful to have coach Matt whose focus is defense and with his guidance O’Reilly finally has a strong defense line. It’s really sad what has happened to the team. But there isn’t a lot of commitment with this years line of offense. Too many other sports and other events to take practice seriously enough to make a difference. And you have to keep the lines strong. If kids can’t catch and throw and now the basic fundamentals that should and usually are required to be on a B team then it’s just going to keep falling apart.


What I watched the Middies had no interest in getting the attack involved. Whole quarters where the attack didn't get passed the ball. That's unacceptable on any winning team. If the commitment isn't there then the kids shouldn't see much field time. If they don't come to practice, then no playing time. Cannot develop as a team if kids miss practice.


Need to cut all of the RVC "Superstars". But that would cost Chan money.


Nice thing about the LI club scene. You have a lot options starting in a month.

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Rebels are taking all left overs from the geese. They started by taking in the dad Islip coach now hes reaching out to geese players to have them come to his team. Youth Lacrosse is a money maker wake up people, no one cares about the kids..


I've spoken with a few other Geese parents, they are all going over to Rebels.

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tryouts are around the corner. What kind of player movement is to be expected? Are the Ducks staying together as that new program? Geese parents throwing in the towel? 91 and Express adding to an already oversized roster? Which teams are the losers and winners? Which program is the dark horse to end up with the disgruntled families and surprise next year? Predictions?


I would add true blue to teams that are expecting big tryouts...

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tryouts are around the corner. What kind of player movement is to be expected? Are the Ducks staying together as that new program? Geese parents throwing in the towel? 91 and Express adding to an already oversized roster? Which teams are the losers and winners? Which program is the dark horse to end up with the disgruntled families and surprise next year? Predictions?


I would add true blue to teams that are expecting big tryouts...


What about Dukes LI? Heard they may be expanding here also..

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Rebels are taking all left overs from the geese. They started by taking in the dad Islip coach now hes reaching out to geese players to have them come to his team. Youth Lacrosse is a money maker wake up people, no one cares about the kids..



The geese players are flocking away from reilly ball

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Rebels are taking all left overs from the geese. They started by taking in the dad Islip coach now hes reaching out to geese players to have them come to his team. Youth Lacrosse is a money maker wake up people, no one cares about the kids..



The geese players are flocking away from reilly ball


Dad Islip Coach is better in every way than Reilly.

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Rebels are taking all left overs from the geese. They started by taking in the dad Islip coach now hes reaching out to geese players to have them come to his team. Youth Lacrosse is a money maker wake up people, no one cares about the kids..



The geese players are flocking away from reilly ball


Dad Islip Coach is better in every way than Reilly.


Wait! Are you saying the geese parents are following the WI daddy assistant coach rather than their head coach CF that has coached them all these years. Then they are nuts!
I agree, Legacy needs to invest in the team and provide more qualified paid coaches. It cant just be CF coaching without another paid coach. But one rough year doesnt mean a team cant come back.
And they think it will be better to pay $2800 to a startup team?
They are making a huge mistake.

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Rebels are taking all left overs from the geese. They started by taking in the dad Islip coach now hes reaching out to geese players to have them come to his team. Youth Lacrosse is a money maker wake up people, no one cares about the kids..



The geese players are flocking away from reilly ball


Dad Islip Coach is better in every way than Reilly.
not even close . You parents are so dumb!, go to the outlaws , I mean rebels . Still do not understand lacrosse at all

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Rebels are taking all left overs from the geese. They started by taking in the dad Islip coach now hes reaching out to geese players to have them come to his team. Youth Lacrosse is a money maker wake up people, no one cares about the kids..



The geese players are flocking away from reilly ball


Dad Islip Coach is better in every way than Reilly.


Did Islip dad play at Maryland too?

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Legacy at a Good Spot LMAO!!!! I guess the spot your talking about is sitting in 11th place out Twelve Teams who entered this past Tournament.
Please don’t embarrass yourself anymore.

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I watched 1 game on Sunday...they didn't get a shot off. For all that time and $ think they would hook these kids up.


I looked at tourney machine and they were obliterated each game. They played us, they obviously aren't getting the coaching - O'Reilly wasn't even on the sidelines, they have very small middies that get knocked around, the passing is horrendous, zero lacrosse IQ (not taught), The clearing was horrendous - middies just stood around and ended up having D taking the ball up. For the $3k - $3.5k they pay they getting zero value.


I tend to think not a lot will return.

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Legacy at a Good Spot LMAO!!!! I guess the spot your talking about is sitting in 11th place out Twelve Teams who entered this past Tournament.
Please don’t embarrass yourself anymore.
you need to see the forest beyond the trees. The club is a winner. you will see . That’s why you are one of those pArents that care only about winning not development. You will see . You obviously have to learn the hard way.

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No excuses needed from Geese. The ones that remain know and trust the process and the kids are not afraid to scrap and take a loss. They still wear the gold helmets with pride. They stayed loyal even when the water got rocky and the sharks circled the boat with big white teeth and bigger promises

Coach Reilly has been a great addition. The kids that took direction from him responded well. He was definitely a plus after all the drama. Good addition with Fiore.

As for next year the ones that were able to stick it out have been in both sides of the war and know how to handle adversity. And will be playing against kids that were taught to quit when it gets too hard.

Thank you to the parents that jumped in this year to help in many ways they did. And especially to the ones that still waited by the fence to greet the team after the bad losses the same way you did when we won championships. Thank you. Look forward to the fun times ahead.

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No excuses needed from Geese. The ones that remain know and trust the process and the kids are not afraid to scrap and take a loss. They still wear the gold helmets with pride. They stayed loyal even when the water got rocky and the sharks circled the boat with big white teeth and bigger promises

Coach Reilly has been a great addition. The kids that took direction from him responded well. He was definitely a plus after all the drama. Good addition with Fiore.

As for next year the ones that were able to stick it out have been in both sides of the war and know how to handle adversity. And will be playing against kids that were taught to quit when it gets too hard.

Thank you to the parents that jumped in this year to help in many ways they did. And especially to the ones that still waited by the fence to greet the team after the bad losses the same way you did when we won championships. Thank you. Look forward to the fun times ahead.


Thank you Director!

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No excuses needed from Geese. The ones that remain know and trust the process and the kids are not afraid to scrap and take a loss. They still wear the gold helmets with pride. They stayed loyal even when the water got rocky and the sharks circled the boat with big white teeth and bigger promises

Coach Reilly has been a great addition. The kids that took direction from him responded well. He was definitely a plus after all the drama. Good addition with Fiore.

As for next year the ones that were able to stick it out have been in both sides of the war and know how to handle adversity. And will be playing against kids that were taught to quit when it gets too hard.

Thank you to the parents that jumped in this year to help in many ways they did. And especially to the ones that still waited by the fence to greet the team after the bad losses the same way you did when we won championships. Thank you. Look forward to the fun times ahead.


I am glad you and many other parents on the team are sticking it out. There is too many people moving their kids from team to team. Ultimately if you find a good team, with good training, that your child actually gets decent time on the field then that team will eventually be a good team and get through the rough times.

I do believe the geese can be that. Chris Fiore is a talented and dedicated coach. But parents do need to insist that Legacy invest in a second paid coach who is not a daddy coach. If you want to compete against the bigger teams you have to have that. And Legacy defenitely is now at the price level like other big teams that they should be having it.

Then if you want to have one or two daddy coaches to "assist" thats great. But they take direction from the 2 paid head coaches and are not over vocal. Let the head coaches do most of the instructional direction.

Reilly is a nice guy and not a bad daddy coach. He is encouraging for the kids. But he doesnt seem to have an understanding of lacrosse language and what he says doesnt make sense at times. He needs to work on that. And probably could be a bit less vocal, and leave that to the head coach.
Other big teams also have real problems with daddy coaches and much worse ones.

Either way, 2 paid qualified nondaddy coaches are necessary for Legacy, or the Geese will find it difficult to replace players who leave with quality talented players. And thats just the facts.

So if u stay then you need to get together and have a real talk with the organization before tryouts.

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No excuses needed from Geese. The ones that remain know and trust the process and the kids are not afraid to scrap and take a loss. They still wear the gold helmets with pride. They stayed loyal even when the water got rocky and the sharks circled the boat with big white teeth and bigger promises

Coach Reilly has been a great addition. The kids that took direction from him responded well. He was definitely a plus after all the drama. Good addition with Fiore.

As for next year the ones that were able to stick it out have been in both sides of the war and know how to handle adversity. And will be playing against kids that were taught to quit when it gets too hard.

Thank you to the parents that jumped in this year to help in many ways they did. And especially to the ones that still waited by the fence to greet the team after the bad losses the same way you did when we won championships. Thank you. Look forward to the fun times ahead.


So many bad losses, so many.

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No excuses needed from Geese. The ones that remain know and trust the process and the kids are not afraid to scrap and take a loss. They still wear the gold helmets with pride. They stayed loyal even when the water got rocky and the sharks circled the boat with big white teeth and bigger promises

Coach Reilly has been a great addition. The kids that took direction from him responded well. He was definitely a plus after all the drama. Good addition with Fiore.

As for next year the ones that were able to stick it out have been in both sides of the war and know how to handle adversity. And will be playing against kids that were taught to quit when it gets too hard.

Thank you to the parents that jumped in this year to help in many ways they did. And especially to the ones that still waited by the fence to greet the team after the bad losses the same way you did when we won championships. Thank you. Look forward to the fun times ahead.


I am glad you and many other parents on the team are sticking it out. There is too many people moving their kids from team to team. Ultimately if you find a good team, with good training, that your child actually gets decent time on the field then that team will eventually be a good team and get through the rough times.

I do believe the geese can be that. Chris Fiore is a talented and dedicated coach. But parents do need to insist that Legacy invest in a second paid coach who is not a daddy coach. If you want to compete against the bigger teams you have to have that. And Legacy defenitely is now at the price level like other big teams that they should be having it.

Then if you want to have one or two daddy coaches to "assist" thats great. But they take direction from the 2 paid head coaches and are not over vocal. Let the head coaches do most of the instructional direction.

Reilly is a nice guy and not a bad daddy coach. He is encouraging for the kids. But he doesnt seem to have an understanding of lacrosse language and what he says doesnt make sense at times. He needs to work on that. And probably could be a bit less vocal, and leave that to the head coach.
Other big teams also have real problems with daddy coaches and much worse ones.

Either way, 2 paid qualified nondaddy coaches are necessary for Legacy, or the Geese will find it difficult to replace players who leave with quality talented players. And thats just the facts.

So if u stay then you need to get together and have a real talk with the organization before tryouts.



You just explained why most of the top players are leaving & left already. All of what you say should be in place before tryouts. When coaches are added after the last tuition payments are made people start to pack their bags. "But he doesn't seem to have an understanding of lacrosse language and what he says doesn't make sense at times." says it all!

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Legacy at a Good Spot LMAO!!!! I guess the spot your talking about is sitting in 11th place out Twelve Teams who entered this past Tournament.
Please don’t embarrass yourself anymore.
you need to see the forest beyond the trees. The club is a winner. you will see . That’s why you are one of those pArents that care only about winning not development. You will see . You obviously have to learn the hard way.


WAS a winner.... and having a director on here playing PR spin-master is pure sign of desperation. As if the Groupon wasn't bad enough

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Legacy at a Good Spot LMAO!!!! I guess the spot your talking about is sitting in 11th place out Twelve Teams who entered this past Tournament.
Please don’t embarrass yourself anymore.
you need to see the forest beyond the trees. The club is a winner. you will see . That’s why you are one of those pArents that care only about winning not development. You will see . You obviously have to learn the hard way.


WAS a winner.... and having a director on here playing PR spin-master is pure sign of desperation. As if the Groupon wasn't bad enough


So many bad, bad losses, and now they’ve lost games they should have won. Unfortunately losing is contagious.

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Legacy at a Good Spot LMAO!!!! I guess the spot your talking about is sitting in 11th place out Twelve Teams who entered this past Tournament.
Please don’t embarrass yourself anymore.
you need to see the forest beyond the trees. The club is a winner. you will see . That’s why you are one of those pArents that care only about winning not development. You will see . You obviously have to learn the hard way.


WAS a winner.... and having a director on here playing PR spin-master is pure sign of desperation. As if the Groupon wasn't bad enough


So many bad, bad losses, and now they’ve lost games they should have won. Unfortunately losing is contagious.


Thats a ridiculous statement. If that was true then Express abd 91 would be losing now. Both have went through very bad streaks. You know nothing about lacrosse.

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