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All players are in seventh grade. Four Players miss the date cutoff for Denver. Clear enough stunad's

All players are in seventh grade. Four Players miss the date cutoff for Denver. Clear enough stunad's

The S2s kids are either reclassed or started school late or they would be eligible for WSYL FACT

Believe it or not the world of lacrosse doesn't revolve around Long Island. Each state has it's own rules & regs. at what age a child can & should begin school.. If these schools start at a later age so be it. If L I teams do not want to participate in out of state tourneys then please stay home.. The complaints about size & age have worn thin.

You need to work on your math skills. I will help you. If a player does not qualify for the WSYL, than he was born on or before August 31, 2004. So, lets use August 31, 2004 as the birthday. A child born on August 31, 2004 turned 6 years old on August 31, 2010. In NY, current 7th graders started kindergarten in Sept of 2010. Thus, anyone from NY that is not age eligible for the WSYL was 6 when they started kindergarten, and not 5 as you say. These kids undoubtably started school late.

Now how stupid are you???

The 2 teams have no connection other than the name on the front of their jersey. There's no mix and match of the roster. And look at that [ChillLaxin] eating grin you are wearing. One stupid comment you know isn't true in the first place and 2 pages of this stupid conversation. And by your comment, wouldn't the holdback team be the second team that is not goimg to wsyl? So they recruited a team full of holdbacks to be the b team?

....and this is one of the major reasons why nearly every other sport groups kids based on birthdate and not grade at the youth level. Having watched my kids play many hockey games against teams from MD, PA, and MA, it is pleasure seeing our opponents be the same size (on the average across the roster) and appear to be the same age (both from an on ice prospective, and in the lobby at the rink). No one in hockey cares what grade a kid is, or what age brackets a state uses to group their children in school.

But when my kids play lacrosse against teams from MD, PA, and MA, all of a sudden the kids are bigger and look older. Why is that? Do they suddenly get younger when they play hockey, only to get older again when they pick up a lacrosse stick?

And yes, NY teams need not play against teams from other states. But why not have a uniform standard that everyone can adhere to? If you are in MD, PA, or MA, what is the downside to having the kids grouped by age and not grade?

No but at this age a kid born in July has a huge advantage over kid born the following June. Your statement is a terrible example of what is really happening. It not a 1-2 month difference in these situations.

Not if the kid is Italian, they reach puberty in 5th grade.. why LI teams are so good.

The tournament was good except for the weather. Would have liked to play all the games..

how does everyone like their draw for laxfest? I know that my son's coach is happy.. We actually have a shot at the semis this year..

Seems like they made an a, a, b+, and b. Right? I would think you would flip farmingdale and ducks or garden city. garden city always seems to be in the b, and then runs away with it. Do they ever go the tougher route?

Love it. I think I'm going to draw a king and queen. Then we're going on to the championship.

Three Village vs. True Blue who wins?

They played a few weeks ago. 3V won.

The Refs

Of course it is always the ref, cannot possibly be that the better team won, RIGHT,

The downside to playing on age instead of grade is that we lose more games to teams with holdbacks, my kid has to play against better kids which makes him look bad, and my dream will die or him playing DI since he now can no longer kick [ChillLaxin] on younger kids. There. I said it. Now, what is the upside to me of fighting for this against the power of the clubs and tournaments and leagues that don't care and encourage holdbacks? They want grade based to win, show off holdback stars, make more money, brag about college recruits and then make more money. You want me to change all that?

My son is trying out for Express a year below this summer. That's how I'm getting him on their AA team.

Your son still couldn't make that team. They are not in need of ' B ' level players.

Three Village vs. True Blue who wins?[/
The tournament director collecting the doughxuh

Your lefty from Farmingdale is January 04 birthday. PAL coaches have rosters with birthdays. It’s not hard to confirm. So how do you explain that S2S dad?

Is their AA 2024 team a B level team?

Easy to explain you have no life, go try to find one and leave the kids alone....

Not to mention, the Express A team for 2024 isn't that good.

Have your son tryout for the Outlaws, or Legacy. He'll make their so-called A team.

Is this true? That would make this kid almost 2 years older than some of the other kids playing in this aged group. That’s ridiculous

Got it. S2S dad gets caught in a lie. Attacks poster. Classy.
Fact is we now know at least one kid on the team is a major holdback. Probably a lot more. Explains a lot. Doesn’t it.

Was it a close game what was the score?

Was it a close game what was the score?[/quote]

Three Village won 6-5. Close game

So is lefty really a 2023?? Hmmm wonder what you might find on Manhassets PAL roster ?!

The holdback situation is just embarrassing. I’m embarassed for the poor kid whose being raised around kids years younger while he purports to be the same age. False sense of reality and the Protective bubble you’ve placed around Johnny Bearded Boy will come back to bite him when he finds out that life isn’t as easy when mommy and daddy aren’t setting up the wins and trophies.

Teams are going to put in a protest this dad should avoid the conflict and embarrassment and not show up

Check the high school rosters next year. They list athletes grade. School districts can’t lie!

I’m not holdback apologist, believe me; however, do you think it’s possible that the parents held the kid back before kindergarten because he was not physically or developmentally ready to start school? Or do you think they were really thinking that it would help him in lacrosse when he’s in 7th grade? Also, no one is going to protest anything because it’s a grade based tournament and the kid is in 7th grade. I swear, you True Blue parents will complain that water is too wet.

Interesting weekend at Lax fest. Lots of teams playing dirty. That team from Jersey was ridiculous with its dirty hits. S2S (both teams) played like crap. Higgins needs to do something to help that 2nd team. I got to see them play 2x and they have zero offense. Their defense was better the first day. The 2nd day their goalie was a sitting duck. The GC team should have played in the A bracket. They have kids from both S2S and Igloo A teams on it. They are a good team but should try and challenge themselves a bit. The ither teams in the A bracket had easy schedules and still their was no rockstar among them.

I’m not holdback apologist, believe me; however, do you think it’s possible that the parents held the kid back before kindergarten because he was not physically or developmentally ready to start school? Or do you think they were really thinking that it would help him in lacrosse when he’s in 7th grade? Also, no one is going to protest anything because it’s a grade based tournament and the kid is in 7th grade. I swear, you True Blue parents will complain that water is too wet.

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He wasn't ready for school yea that's the reason thanks for the clarification.

Nice weekend at the LI Laxfest congrats to the Bandits, they are still the team to beat on Long Island (Not a Bandit Parent). All the teams in that bracket played tough there weren't many easy games. Good luck to all the rest of the summer and see some of you at Tri Fest.

[quote=Anonymous]There are ZERO holdbacks on the S2S Team. There are four players, that cannot, and will not be playing in Denver, because they are over the age limit by a range of 2 days to 2 months. None of the boys have been held back or re-classed etc. I know this because my son is on the team.


This didn’t age well!

That NJ team is an affiliate of 91