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No question, Freedom is a good club, as is BL. One of my sons is a 2023 elite level player and not currently on either team. He's planning on trying out for both clubs this summer, and depending on where he would feature, will go with that club. Having said that, if Freedom is pulling in ghosts from out of state (and I'll look into this) that will definitely impact our decision.
If anyone has any actual evidence of this please share. Thanks. if you are truly asking, there is no comparison to the two clubs. Freedom is a well established club and will be invited to top HS tournaments. BL will not, that is just a total fact of life. These upstart clubs will not get the exposure that established club will. How can you possibly make this ridiculous statement - upstart club? - apparently you were not at NXT for the BL/Freedom game.- and that is not meant as a dig at Freedom, they are a good team, but the results speak for themselves - and you can save the BL parent reply, no affiliation with BL They are referring to the club as a whole which aside from 2023/24 BL is lacking. Yes the 6-4 and 7-5victories by BL at those age groups is nice. Understood, but the idea that Freedom will carry any more weight with respect to entering a tournament lacks merit, we all know that most of these tournaments will take anybody that is willing to pay. I could at least understand the argument if we were discussing a HS showcase event that only takes a certain number of kids. In that instance, personal relationships between showcase organizers and club coaches can certainly make a difference getting a kid into a showcase. Yes and you have to think that BL's 2022 coach has quite a few relationships....but who knows being arguably the best player in MD history and having coached the ACC Freshman of the year he might not know anyone.
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No question, Freedom is a good club, as is BL. One of my sons is a 2023 elite level player and not currently on either team. He's planning on trying out for both clubs this summer, and depending on where he would feature, will go with that club. Having said that, if Freedom is pulling in ghosts from out of state (and I'll look into this) that will definitely impact our decision.
If anyone has any actual evidence of this please share. Thanks. if you are truly asking, there is no comparison to the two clubs. Freedom is a well established club and will be invited to top HS tournaments. BL will not, that is just a total fact of life. These upstart clubs will not get the exposure that established club will. How can you possibly make this ridiculous statement - upstart club? - apparently you were not at NXT for the BL/Freedom game.- and that is not meant as a dig at Freedom, they are a good team, but the results speak for themselves - and you can save the BL parent reply, no affiliation with BL They are referring to the club as a whole which aside from 2023/24 BL is lacking. Yes the 6-4 and 7-5victories by BL at those age groups is nice. Understood, but the idea that Freedom will carry any more weight with respect to entering a tournament lacks merit, we all know that most of these tournaments will take anybody that is willing to pay. I could at least understand the argument if we were discussing a HS showcase event that only takes a certain number of kids. In that instance, personal relationships between showcase organizers and club coaches can certainly make a difference getting a kid into a showcase. Yes and you have to think that BL's 2022 coach has quite a few relationships....but who knows being arguably the best player in MD history and having coached the ACC Freshman of the year he might not know anyone. "coach"
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No question, Freedom is a good club, as is BL. One of my sons is a 2023 elite level player and not currently on either team. He's planning on trying out for both clubs this summer, and depending on where he would feature, will go with that club. Having said that, if Freedom is pulling in ghosts from out of state (and I'll look into this) that will definitely impact our decision.
If anyone has any actual evidence of this please share. Thanks. if you are truly asking, there is no comparison to the two clubs. Freedom is a well established club and will be invited to top HS tournaments. BL will not, that is just a total fact of life. These upstart clubs will not get the exposure that established club will. How can you possibly make this ridiculous statement - upstart club? - apparently you were not at NXT for the BL/Freedom game.- and that is not meant as a dig at Freedom, they are a good team, but the results speak for themselves - and you can save the BL parent reply, no affiliation with BL They are referring to the club as a whole which aside from 2023/24 BL is lacking. Yes the 6-4 and 7-5victories by BL at those age groups is nice. Understood, but the idea that Freedom will carry any more weight with respect to entering a tournament lacks merit, we all know that most of these tournaments will take anybody that is willing to pay. I could at least understand the argument if we were discussing a HS showcase event that only takes a certain number of kids. In that instance, personal relationships between showcase organizers and club coaches can certainly make a difference getting a kid into a showcase. Yes and you have to think that BL's 2022 coach has quite a few relationships....but who knows being arguably the best player in MD history and having coached the ACC Freshman of the year he might not know anyone. Exactly, while lacrosse is growing quickly, it is still a close knit community
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You can think whatever you want, but history speaks for itself. The clubs that are upstart clubs, are not well represented at top tournaments when it comes to HS play. Just a fact.
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You can think whatever you want, but history speaks for itself. The clubs that are upstart clubs, are not well represented at top tournaments when it comes to HS play. Just a fact. Tournaments have changed so much in the last couple years. Outside of the NLF what would you consider top tournaments for HS?
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You can think whatever you want, but history speaks for itself. The clubs that are upstart clubs, are not well represented at top tournaments when it comes to HS play. Just a fact. Tournaments have changed so much in the last couple years. Outside of the NLF what would you consider top tournaments for HS? The NLF is tops for sure, but outside of those, Crab Feast, Big 4 and NXT cup are all decent and all have lots of top coaches. Naptown is also decent
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You can think whatever you want, but history speaks for itself. The clubs that are upstart clubs, are not well represented at top tournaments when it comes to HS play. Just a fact. Tournaments have changed so much in the last couple years. Outside of the NLF what would you consider top tournaments for HS? The NLF is not the best event to go to. Crabfeast, NXT, Adrenaline Platinum Cup, Big12 North American Club Lacrosse Championship, Victory Events Liberty National Elite Showcase, NAL Invitational, Uplax & Autumn and Gold are top recruiting events.
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It's tryout season...
What teams are moving up and which are moving down?
BL? Freedom? Sons? Mesa? Team 11? HHH? NXT? Roughriders?
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I'm curious as to what team the poster's kid is on, seems to be looking for some validation...its got to be one of the middle teams, don't want to seem too obvious shooting for the top, but don't want to shoot too low in case somebody thinks the order looks about right
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I'm curious as to what team the poster's kid is on, seems to be looking for some validation...its got to be one of the middle teams, don't want to seem too obvious shooting for the top, but don't want to shoot too low in case somebody thinks the order looks about right I’d guess Sons or Mesa. Both are too high in the rankings. Team 11 and HHH should be above them.
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OK......so NO?? Or just... no ??
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It's tryout season...
What teams are moving up and which are moving down?
BL? Freedom? Sons? Mesa? Team 11? HHH? NXT? Roughriders?
WC Elevated NXT B Freedom B And likely BL B above RoughRiders based on NXT spring league
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Elevated uses 2022’s at 2023, 2023’s at 2024
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Elevated uses 2022’s at 2023, 2023’s at 2024 and you know this how?
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Elevated uses 2022’s at 2023, 2023’s at 2024 and you know this how? They admitted to it
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Elevated uses 2022’s at 2023, 2023’s at 2024 and you know this how? They admitted to it So they cheat and play in B brackets...nice
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We don't even have a 2022 team
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We don't even have a 2022 team
Right because they play on the 2023 team
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We don't even have a 2022 team
Right because they play on the 2023 team now that's funny
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Quarterfinals for Big 5 and 90+1 didn't put up double digits on them. Nice showing for PA Lacrosse. Wonder what teams from PA are planning to go next year if any or if Big 5 will continue to send teams?
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Quarterfinals for Big 5 and 90+1 didn't put up double digits on them. Nice showing for PA Lacrosse. Wonder what teams from PA are planning to go next year if any or if Big 5 will continue to send teams? The fact that it took top players from multiple philly club teams to somewhat compete with one team tells you the different level of Lacrosse on the island
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Quarterfinals for Big 5 and 90+1 didn't put up double digits on them. Nice showing for PA Lacrosse. Wonder what teams from PA are planning to go next year if any or if Big 5 will continue to send teams? The fact that it took top players from multiple philly club teams to somewhat compete with one team tells you the different level of Lacrosse on the island Rest assure if they took the top kids from a 10 miles radius around Haverford they would win. Long island programs pull from the entire island and beyond. Philly is super concentrated in a very small area.
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Quarterfinals for Big 5 and 90+1 didn't put up double digits on them. Nice showing for PA Lacrosse. Wonder what teams from PA are planning to go next year if any or if Big 5 will continue to send teams? The fact that it took top players from multiple philly club teams to somewhat compete with one team tells you the different level of Lacrosse on the island Rest assure if they took the top kids from a 10 miles radius around Haverford they would win. Long island programs pull from the entire island and beyond. Philly is super concentrated in a very small area. If that’s the case why isn’t Mesa better?
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Nice showing??? The big 5 team had one legit scorer. Also 91 pulled their starters after 3 rd quarter to rest up for better competition later. Don’t be delusional 91 could have put up 15 easily
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Freedom is the top team in the area. They will win Crabs Young guns this weekend
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Freedom is the top team in the area. They will win Crabs Young guns this weekend Since there best players are from NY and NC hard to pin them to an area...take those kids off the team and let’s see how they are
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How many tournaments has Freedom won this year ? Does Freedom count as a local team, when their top players are from New York?
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Before you anoint a team the best at anything, can they win at least one tournament? Despite having the top players from up state New York, still can beat local teams, they are basically a poor mans national team.
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Nice showing??? The big 5 team had one legit scorer. Also 91 pulled their starters after 3 rd quarter to rest up for better competition later. Don’t be delusional 91 could have put up 15 easily I'll assume you were at the game. If so you are lying, 36, 28, 4, 50, 2, 11, 14, 99, 42 were all playing in the 4th quarter. If you weren't at the game and are just assuming, well then don't be delusional we were the best defense/goalie they saw all tournament. No one said Big 5 was the better team, clearly the score indicates they were not. IF we got in as many practices as Team 91 we'd beat them and give their parents something real to groan about on the sidelines (bunch of whiners).
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Before you anoint a team the best at anything, can they win at least one tournament? Despite having the top players from up state New York, still can beat local teams, they are basically a poor mans national team. What...ahhhh....what local teams can't they beat?
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[quote=Anonymous]Nice showing??? The big 5 team had one legit scorer. Also 91 pulled their starters after 3 rd quarter to rest up for better competition later. Don’t be delusional 91 could have put up 15 easily I'll assume you were at the game. If so you are lying, 36, 28, 4, 50, 2, 11, 14, 99, 42 were all playing in the 4th quarter. If you weren't at the game and are just assuming, well then don't be delusional we were the best defense/goalie they saw all tournament. No one said Big 5 was the better team, clearly the score indicates they were not. IF we got in as many practices as Team 91 we'd beat them and give their parents something real to groan about on the sidelines (bunch of whiners). And if Hilary had more votes she would of been President- keep making up excuses - you lost and the better team won.ll
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How many tournaments has Freedom won this year ? Does Freedom count as a local team, when their top players are from New York? Only reason they win with the upstate NY boys is because they are a year older !! 14
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Before you anoint a team the best at anything, can they win at least one tournament? Despite having the top players from up state New York, still can beat local teams, they are basically a poor mans national team. What...ahhhh....what local teams can't they beat? Freedom was one goal away from winning this weekend, not an excuse but gave the champs the most competitive game all weekend. Mesa and HHH represented well but Freedom is the top team in PA. Young Guns was a good tournament but there are still a few more to go this summer.
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[quote=Anonymous]Nice showing??? The big 5 team had one legit scorer. Also 91 pulled their starters after 3 rd quarter to rest up for better competition later. Don’t be delusional 91 could have put up 15 easily I'll assume you were at the game. If so you are lying, 36, 28, 4, 50, 2, 11, 14, 99, 42 were all playing in the 4th quarter. If you weren't at the game and are just assuming, well then don't be delusional we were the best defense/goalie they saw all tournament. No one said Big 5 was the better team, clearly the score indicates they were not. IF we got in as many practices as Team 91 we'd beat them and give their parents something real to groan about on the sidelines (bunch of whiners). And if Hilary had more votes she would of been President- keep making up excuses - you lost and the better team won.ll I attended the WSYL this year (with another team) and did not see many instances where 91 put on the brakes and took it easy on any team, that is not how they operate, the classless goal in the last 30 seconds of the championship is a perfect example. Big 5 had a very good team with many talented players, but you simply cannot compete with teams that play together year round. The LI Express team had over 100 practices before the tournament, no club that assembles a team solely for the WSYL can expect to win with a make-shift team that had a bunch of practices but still had to compete for player availability because of conflicting club spring and summer schedules.Those 91 and Express kids have numerous set plays ingrained in their heads, you cannot replicate that unless the players are playing and practicing together full time.
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BIG 5 Solid , team did a nice job, great Goalie and really good defense
Freedom- typical of losers to talk about how good there team is when they have won nothing - must be the New York Parents
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