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Does anyone know how the “uncommitted” roster works? Would those selected already know?

according to UALax website:

UNCOMMITTED SHOWCASE

Each year there are very talented players who are on the cusp of making the regional Underclass teams, but are not selected. Aside from the 22 players chosen for each team, four uncommitted (to college) players from each of the graduating classes will be invited to compete and showcase themselves in front of scores of coaches at Towson University on Under Armour All-America Weekend.

A total of 48 players in each of the graduating classes – 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 – for both boys and girls will be invited to participate event weekend. Players will be selected by the regional evaluators and coaches after the final regional teams are picked. Teams will be divided accordingly.

*You must have participated in the regional tryouts to be eligible for the Underclass Showcase.

I'm not sure if everyone is aware, but there is currently a NCAA proposal to change the recruiting calendar to allow contact starting 6/15 after 10th grade and visits and offers to begin 8/1. This would change the current date of 9/1 of junior year for all contact. This proposal has been recommended by the NCAA Student-Athlete Experience Committee for all sports but Football, Basketball, Baseball and Hockey. This proposal was approved for a final vote in April by the NCAA Council. This week the ACC has submitted a request to amend this proposal to keep the 9/1 date for lacrosse. This will now also be voted on in April. I'm not sure if most of you agree, but the current 9/1 date has several issues. First off, we are all forced to blindly spend money for our kids to attend camps, clinics, etc. While we can hear if a school has "general interest" some schools don't even offer that much. Allowing contact on 6/15 would make it possible to have real discussions with the coaches to gauge their actual level of interest, where the player is on their list and other useful information. It also provides an opportunity to being to create a relationship with the coaches that will be coaching your child for 4 years. As you all are aware, the 9/1 date does not remove the recruiting pressure on the kids. Coaches still watch the games years prior to that date. If anything the pressure is worse because the kids have no idea where they stand. Moving the visit date to 8/1 also allows the kids to more easily play fall sports. Most soccer, field hockey, football coaches aren't going to be too thrilled with kids missing Friday and weekend practices or even games because they need to go visit colleges for lacrosse. Coaches say they want multiple sport athletes yet pass rules that make it very difficult to play a fall sport junior year.

It has been expressed to me that it would be very beneficial for as many parents as possible to send letters/emails to the chair of the NCAA council prior to the April vote expressing concerns with the 9/1 date and support for the new proposal which is Proposal 2018-93. I am including the email below for the current and incoming Chairs. I hope we as a community can come together and try to make sure this positive change can pass.

Current Chair:
Blake James bjames@miami.edu
Incoming Chair:
Dr. M. Grace Calhoun athdir@pobox.upenn.edu

What does the IAAM looking like this year? McDonogh graduated a ton, but have a ton coming back. Interesting to see how Taylor does in her first year as coach. NDP graduated a ton, but not sure what they have left, They practically dress half the school on the sideline. Spalding or Glenelg Country have a shot? Bryn Mawr and Roland Park?

Top 4
1. NDP
2. McD
3. SPSG
4. GCS

I’d put GCS as the top seed going in and probably MCD as two. Don’t believe the the bs SPSG would not do any better then last year they’ll finish mid pack again.

NDP wins the next two. They could field two competitive teams.

1. GCS
2. NDP
3. McD

Who does NDP have coming back? Any big time freshman coming in

There are a lot of talented freshmen coming in, however NDP doesn’t have the room for them on Varsity. Their JV will be the strongest out there because of it.

I can only speak to NDP's sophomore class. They have several SW and several TLC players. The rest of the top club players in town are split between McDonough and St Pauls and then sprinkled among the rest of the schools in town. That group of NDP sophomores is very, very good.

St. Marys has a chance to be really good. Everyone pretty much returns from last year and they picked up a solid 2020 goalie that transferred. A

Glenelg Country has a very good senior class but very young after that..2 jr, 4 soph and 13 fresh.

Hopefully someone can take down McD but every year the parents of NDP and the other preps talk trash because they have a D on the team. Every year their is an excuse about the coaching or injuries etc.

Every year parents of ALL schools, not just NDP, talk trash about how they will beat McD and then don’t. Well, except NDP. They have earned the right to talk trash.
It will be a good year for a lot of schools. The 2022 class is a very talented one across the board and that will make for some really good lacrosse games this season.
Good luck to everyone.

The talent on the 21 SW team is at JC, SPSG, BM, McD and Gerstell. None of the 2021 SW girls at NDP are difference makers. There is one TLC 2021 girl at NDP that is good. I'd ease up on the very, very good talk.

Is there such a thing as lacrosse scholarships for girls high school sports? Which schools? Or do they just hide through financial aid?

Gerstell openly advertises athletic scholarships. Other schools hide behind financial aid and named scholarships where part of the criteria is athletic prowess.

The top 2021's in the area are at McD, SPSG, Glenelg Country and a lot are at public schools. Bryn Mawr has a few. SPSG has 12 2021 girls from M&D, SW, Heros and TLC. McD has half that but they are all good players. GCS has most of the top Heros girls. You use the excuse that most of the NDP freshman weren't on varsity last year because there are so many players there. But if that's the case shouldn't NDP's JV team have been better last year?

NDP lost a ton of talent from last year's team. And contrary to popular belief there isn't a bunch of talent there to replace them.

Under Armour 150 emails went out. Is there a consensus on this event?

$$$ grab. No top girls went last year. Not a good list of colleges attending.

Notre Dame, Syracuse, Hopkins, Loyola, Florida... when did they fall off the “good list”?

Financial aid packages are available if you are a great lacrosse player. This is how Mcd and preps stay loaded with talent.

If you think it's worth all the money by all means shell it out. Chris will appreciate it I'm sure. There's a reason all the top players stopped attending.

Everyone who says this is not worthwhile either did apply in time or did not get accepted. it's not any more expensive than similar tournaments and the list of colleges attending is much better than last year.

What about for a 2021 from a "non-traditional area"? Plays on a good club team. Would it be a worthwhile event to measure herself against other players?

Funny. This is always the response. I bet your daughter was selected as an all star last year at the UA150 and you made sure to tell everyone about it to.

Maybe my daughter attended two years ago and saw how useless it was. My daughter was invited last year but did not attend. But from what I was told last year was no better other than they gave out a lot of swag to make up for the lack of coaches. As I've said, none of the top girls attend anymore. Look at last year's rosters. Their still up on the site. There are hardly any M&D, SW, YJ 2021 girls. On the bright side it's much easier to get an invite now. In fact, both the Nike 120 and UA 150 were still sending out emails trying to get girls to attend only a few weeks out from the event last year.

By all means spend the money for a day and a half of lacrosse if you want. There is no instruction going on. It is what it is. The girls are in high school. They should be trying to make their regional Under Armour teams.

The top players aren't going to be at UA 150. So not sure it's the best place to measure herself against them. If it's a non-traditional area, you should have a good shot at making the Schoolgirls team or UA Underclass team. Those two events have tons of coaches and don't cost much(UA Underclass is free if you make the team). Other than that, you are much better off spending the money going to a couple camps of schools that your daughter is interested in. Especially if those schools have shown interest in your daughter. At this point most girls should know some schools that are interested in her. Plan your summer accordingly.

Lets dissect your wandering response:
1. I bet your daughter was selected as an all star last year at the UA150 and you made sure to tell everyone about it to.

My daughter did not attend nor apply last year so therefore I did not tell anyone about it.

2. Maybe my daughter attended two years ago and saw how useless it was.

Did she attend or not..it's a pretty simple answer

3. My daughter was invited last year but did not attend.

Wait a minute. If she maybe attended 2 years ago and saw how useless it was why did she apply again last year. I'm stumped

4. By all means spend the money for a day and a half of lacrosse if you want. There is no instruction going on

No where on the UA 150 webiste does it say anything about instruction. It's about the games and the Parisi combine

5. They should be trying to make their regional Under Armour teams.

My daughter was on the UA All American Baltimore Command team last year..was yours?

Like I said it's usually the parents who did not apply in time or weren't accepted that belittle these type of events. I saw it last year with the UA All American games. Parent's who were late in applying or who's kid did not make the cut belittled the tournament as useless

apparently many of the area's top 22's and 21'su are going this year. Word was out on the college list for 2019

Not sure who you are talking to, but the top 2021s are not going to UA 150 this year.

My daughter was also on UA Underclass team last year. Went to UA 150 and Nike 120 two years ago. They were both a waste of time and money. She applied because we had not yet made a decision on whether she would go again but when the time came we decided not to spend the money. Instead she went to 2 college camps last summer for not much more money.

My comment about instruction was in comparison in what you get for the money when you go to a camp. Playing 6 games in front of mostly D3 coaches is not worth the exorbitant fees in my opinion. There are games being played on 4 fields. You will be lucky for your daughter to be watched twice over a 2 day span by any of the few good D1 schools.

What exactly is the benefit of the Parisi Combine? There is none. Do you really think college coaches give a darn about the results?

These used to be great events when they were held in January. Tons of coaches came as it was during their down time. When they changed the recruiting calendar it ruined them. Coaches are on the road every weekend watching tournament games all summer. UA 150 is the week between Nike G8 and Mid-Atlantic. It's easy for Maryland, Loyola, Navy, etc to attend as they're local. USC is always there because they just stay on east coast that week. Most coaches don't want to stay in MD all week after being in Jersey that weekend, they want to go home for a few days.

The event serves a purpose for certain kids. As long as your expectations are not too high in terms of exposure by all means go ahead and attend.

I would rather my daughter spend $600 and get seen by 3 coaches on her list than spend the same amount on one camp where you get instruction from current players, some who never touch the field. I guess this is where that “to each his own” statement comes into play.

thanks for your approval to attend, it means so much. BTW there are no college camps or these types events that will have over 35 colleges attending and they are a mixture of Top D1 all the way through NAIA. The more exposure the more options for schools to pick from. Even the UA All American games did not draw that many coaches for the Command or Highlight Underclass games. Yes college coaches do care about the speed results from the combine because you CANNOT TEACH SPEED..any college coach in any sport will tell you that

Please do not listen to this person...if your daughter applied and was excepted then by all means have her go. It cannot be a bad thing to be seen by head or assistant coaches from all or any of these colleges. Their bad experience may be your good experience

enough on the merits of the UA 150. Lets get back to the HS spring season.

what schools will be good in the Public schools? 4A?, 3A? 2A? 1A?

how about the IAAM B & C divison

Can Taylor Cummings be a successful head coach?

Of course coaches like speed. Do you really think coaches go look at the results from the UA 150 parisi combine though? Of course not.

The UA Underclass games are free to play in as opposed to the crazy high fee for UA150. And you're crazy if you don't think there weren't more coaches from top D1 schools there than UA150.

UA150 costs twice as much as it should for what is provided. You get less exposure there than you will at G8 the weekend before or Mid-Atlantic the weekend after. If the goal is to just play games in front of college coaches tournaments blow UA150 out of the water. Camps are better if your daughter is interested in the school and wants to be able to actually interact with the coaches and current players and get a feel for the program.

Again, to each their own.

Per the above mention, trying to figure out what coaches will be there this year. I can only find the 2018 list. Thanks.

once again, thanks for your approval

You're right. They asked for an honest response on if the UA 150. It's the best $600 you can spend.

That better?