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I'm interested to know if any parents on here have kids who've experienced lacrosse fatigue? Do any of your kids get tired of try outs and clinics and some of the other "extras" that come with the game. I read some of this and I get the sense that all kids are always all in. I'll be the first to admit that that isn't always the case with my son. Second question: What do you do when your kid has tons of talent, but is losing enthusiasm for the game?

You don't know my kids, but you'd know how completely wrong you are if you did. The last thing they need is your sympathy. Great job getting it right on the second go with Duke. Negativity? If that's what you want to call reality, so be it. Just because you won't look at it, doesn't mean it's not there. Go look up some stats, there is a blog on this site, to see if the investment in all this fun is really sensible. Of course you are going to justify the amount of lacrosse time you allow your son to play. And, of course he loves it all and will be afforded a greater chance of success the more he plays. Show me the stats that somehow justify the increasing commitment seemingly required of youth lacrosse players. Sorry to bring you down, but I care as much about what you think as apparently you do about what I think. I do care that your kid could get burnt out and lose the joy for the sport.

I'm interested to know if any parents on here have kids who've experienced lacrosse fatigue? Do any of your kids get tired of try outs and clinics and some of the other "extras" that come with the game. I read some of this and I get the sense that all kids are always all in. I'll be the first to admit that that isn't always the case with my son. Second question: What do you do when your kid has tons of talent, but is losing enthusiasm for the game?

You take a break and take them fishing!

Sir you obviously do not know my son as well. I think you are being completely irrational to assume ALL kids fall into the category of Lacrosse Fatigue. It exists we are all aware just like in al sports; however, with my son we have excellent communication, he has a love for the game, he wants to compete at a high level....so why is it so wrong with giving him that experience? After each mini-camp/game etc. we talk; are you having fun, is this something you want to continue to do and so on. I think it is important to have this open dialogue with your son and if he were to say "Dad I am tired or this is no longer fun" guess what.....we stop!!!! This is not difficult if you have that type of relationship with your child. So SORRY TO BRING YOU DOWN, but many more kids enjoy this experience than not!! If this is not for your son hopefully he shared that with you and you made changes. I for one have seen my sons love for the game intensify as we travel from city to city enjoying what other areas of the country have to offer in terms of a learning experience. This format for us; at least, is not all about lacrosse. Sorry you disagree but again we are all different.

Simple, If it's mid season tell him he has to finish the season due to his commitment to the team, but doesn't have to play next year.

Sir you obviously do not know my son as well. I think you are being completely irrational to assume ALL kids fall into the category of Lacrosse Fatigue. It exists we are all aware just like in al sports; however, with my son we have excellent communication, he has a love for the game, he wants to compete at a high level....so why is it so wrong with giving him that experience? After each mini-camp/game etc. we talk; are you having fun, is this something you want to continue to do and so on. I think it is important to have this open dialogue with your son and if he were to say "Dad I am tired or this is no longer fun" guess what.....we stop!!!! This is not difficult if you have that type of relationship with your child. So SORRY TO BRING YOU DOWN, but many more kids enjoy this experience than not!! If this is not for your son hopefully he shared that with you and you made changes. I for one have seen my sons love for the game intensify as we travel from city to city enjoying what other areas of the country have to offer in terms of a learning experience. This format for us; at least, is not all about lacrosse. Sorry you disagree but again we are all different.

Sir you obviously do not know my son as well. I think you are being completely irrational to assume ALL kids fall into the category of Lacrosse Fatigue. It exists we are all aware just like in al sports; however, with my son we have excellent communication, he has a love for the game, he wants to compete at a high level....so why is it so wrong with giving him that experience? After each mini-camp/game etc. we talk; are you having fun, is this something you want to continue to do and so on. I think it is important to have this open dialogue with your son and if he were to say "Dad I am tired or this is no longer fun" guess what.....we stop!!!! This is not difficult if you have that type of relationship with your child. So SORRY TO BRING YOU DOWN, but many more kids enjoy this experience than not!! If this is not for your son hopefully he shared that with you and you made changes. I for one have seen my sons love for the game intensify as we travel from city to city enjoying what other areas of the country have to offer in terms of a learning experience. This format for us; at least, is not all about lacrosse. Sorry you disagree but again we are all different.

I'm looking for a solution between the two extremes. Something between what your kid does and nothing at all. Somewhere where sanity and moderation prevails.

That is the Lacrosse Unicorn my friend!!

My favorite response! Truth. Go Birds!

If your kid is good enough you can do whatever you want. You just feel pressured to do more cause everyone else is. Don’t buy into it if you don’t want to. The only ones that care are the ones making money off you.

If you aren't getting your kid involved with the dukes national team you are doing him a disservice. It is hands down the best coaching environment and you can not replicate the experience with the ballers on the field.

If you aren't getting your kid involved with the dukes national team you are doing him a disservice. It is hands down the best coaching environment and you can not replicate the experience with the ballers on the field.

This is a ridiculous shameful plug by Dukes Nationals Management. Save your money, time and aggravation by not listening to this or joining Duke's Nationals train wreck. The program has steadily been going down hill since they changed coaches and are constantly emailing and texting about payments that should be paid for ridiculous reasons 2018-2019 min camps already and discount on 2018 spring/summer tournaments if you pay early, how and why would we pay early if we do not know where our sons are on the depth chart, I forgot there has not been a depth chart since November!!!!!!!

So here’s the problem with dukes. Everyone pay attention - The depth chart comes out for the 24 team. And a kid who had not been to one mini camp in forever. Didn’t go to Florida , didn’t go to the last minicamp even though it was in his home state Is still #4 on the depth chart ahead of kids who always show up. G what is wrong with you? This is why half your philly players will go to brotherly love national team and end up spanking you this summer. If you readers pay attention , I’m really not sure how you can ever give this man a dime

This is an interesting perspective. We were at the 2nd Brotherly Love National Tryouts at Episcopal on Friday Night. The coach running the tryouts answered questions at the end and several of them seemed to tie into the Dukes "approach" I believe the gentleman running the tryout was one of the founders of Brotherly Love and he made a point that there would be no dad's involved in the depth chart and selection. If that remains true it will be a good thing.

I was very impressed with the two tryout sessions. However I was more impressed with the coaches they had at the tryout. Noon MLL pole, Adams, Team USA Goalie, Bates, HC at EA and former HC of Princeton, and Deniken former Wings Box Player. I think we would be hard pressed to find a more elite level of coaches for a 6th grade lacrosse team. Well done so far just hoping my kid makes the cut as the top team will be awesome.

So here’s the problem with dukes. Everyone pay attention - The depth chart comes out for the 24 team. And a kid who had not been to one mini camp in forever. Didn’t go to Florida , didn’t go to the last minicamp even though it was in his home state Is still #4 on the depth chart ahead of kids who always show up. G what is wrong with you? This is why half your philly players will go to brotherly love national team and end up spanking you this summer. If you readers pay attention , I’m really not sure how you can ever give this man a dime

Sounds typical for the Duke's Nationals -Depth Chart, the depth chart is never followed as it is explained to parents and players, who are supposed to be accountable to attend each mini camp and tournament to stay in good standing and keep the players spot on the depth chart but as you explained it is never followed by Dukes management who produce the depth chart with no input from the coaches. The depth chart is just a hammerhead to keep the players interested in attending the next mini camp and the mini camps are just money makers for Dukes nationals management to keep the program afloat. It is a complete scam and the end is near.

stunad..special doesn't mean blowing teams out of the water. That team of boys are so connected and bonded. That's what is special.

Here's the thing. The depth chart is crap - I don't think anyone disagrees with that. But the mini camps (the Loyola snow storm excluded) are actually pretty good. They do a lot of positional training with fantastic coaches and then move to 2 on 2s, 3 on 3s, etc. where they can apply some of the lessons they learned during positional training.

If your son is looking for extra training, this is a pretty good option as long as you understand and accept some of the downsides of the rest of the program.

Sounds typical for the Duke's Nationals -Depth Chart, the depth chart is never followed as it is explained to parents and players, who are supposed to be accountable to attend each mini camp and tournament to stay in good standing and keep the players spot on the depth chart but as you explained it is never followed by Dukes management who produce the depth chart with no input from the coaches. The depth chart is just a hammerhead to keep the players interested in attending the next mini camp and the mini camps are just money makers for Dukes nationals management to keep the program afloat. It is a complete scam and the end is near.

The min camps are exactly the same every month, no new training or any type of evaluation on current players or prospective players are ever completed, not to mention that the same mini camp given 2 years ago cost $40 and mini camps given today cost $100 and they are exactly the same, no new added value at all =money scam, buyer beware!!

If you think that there is no benefit to the training (forget the evaluations) then I'm not sure you are paying attention. Mini camps are $60 if you pay in advance which really isn't that bad of an increase. The $100 is clearly there to push people into the package instead of cherry picking which camp to attend.

Why shouldn’t you be able to attend the camps you want to, instead of traveling ridiculous distances? The coaches don’t go, why should the players?

If you think that there is no benefit to the training (forget the evaluations) then I'm not sure you are paying attention. Mini camps are $60 if you pay in advance which really isn't that bad of an increase. The $100 is clearly there to push people into the package instead of cherry picking which camp to attend.

You just confirmed my point, it used to be $40 per mini camp pay as you go, know it's a discount at $60 if you pay up front for all the mini camps for the year $600).... giving them the money they are looking for upfront for the mini-camps but if you wait and pay as you go to the mini camps you are penalized and have to pay $100, why would that be?????? let me explain it to you, it's a money maker for the club... no reason people should be penalized because the want to pay as they go, What exactly is the $40 dollar penalty covering...nothing but more money in Dukes Management pocket.

If people like the product they will pay even if it doesn't make sense (i.e. 1K for a phone). This is a business and the model above increases profits. People will continue to pay when few alternatives exist. This is changing though. Other clubs are establishing national teams realizing there is a market flush with cash and wiling to hand it over. Stop complaining about Dukes and spend your money on another club. Or better yet, accept the fact that your kids regional team with a la carte development opportunities is all you really need to create the next Rabil. But remember how DNA plays a role. No national team can give your kid better lacrosse genes.

If people like the product they will pay even if it doesn't make sense (i.e. 1K for a phone). This is a business and the model above increases profits. People will continue to pay when few alternatives exist. This is changing though. Other clubs are establishing national teams realizing there is a market flush with cash and wiling to hand it over. Stop complaining about Dukes and spend your money on another club. Or better yet, accept the fact that your kids regional team with a la carte development opportunities is all you really need to create the next Rabil. But remember how DNA plays a role. No national team can give your kid better lacrosse genes.

If you spent 1k for a phone you are dumber than I thought. Dukes Nationals is a complete scam!!