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And wait until summer when Channy adds a few new starters, last year it was the Texas 2 step, this year there will be more. Bet on it!

They held a parent meeting last summer and we're told that the team was being split into AA and A and that wasn't the result. So that's probably still an idea that may pan out.

Your not paying $4k to share sideline and playing time . They are supposed to be teaching the kids to play lacrosse not how to cheat the system

Can the title of this thread be changed to Boys 2025 (and 2024) - 5th Grade (and 6th if your not good enough)?

I heard this year is the Baltimore Bombers!!

yes - actually it is cheating - it may not be cheating for an advantage but it is cheating none the less, it is a 5th grade tournament for kids in 5th grade.

yes - actually it is cheating - it may not be cheating for an advantage but it is cheating none the less, it is a 5th grade tournament for kids in 5th grade.

If Stephen Hawking rolled onto the field wearing an Express North jersey, while it would be no advantage to Express North it would still be cheating because he is not in 5th grade

a tournament without rules is anarchy

The people who cheated the system early on (hold backs) say its cheating. And I would say that most of the TOP teams have at least 85% of there teams roster made up up of kids born in 2006. To me, that makes it an even playing field . There is only one boy in question right now. Could you imagine how much better that team would be if the other 2 boys decided to play 2025? You want to avoid this? Then have the tournament directors put some DOB restrictions on there tournaments.... wait no good??? oh ya your kid was held back for lax so he could play with younger kids and have an advantage. You feel threatened by a young 6th grader who is about the exact same age as 85% of the boys on your team . What do you do in 2-yrs and the WSYL tryouts rolls around and the young 2024's born after Aug.31st decide to show up and take little Johnny's spot?

Please don't make up phony facts to make your BS answer seem even remotely reasonable. Even the Cheating Scum 2024/2025 Express are at least 65/75% 2007 Birthdays if not more. But one 6th grader is too many and makes that cheating 2024 team just weak.

Sorry cheater dad, your personal weakness has dragged down the whole team. It is your fault.

HAhahaha so you say the top teams have only "35% hold backs"..l think I am closer w/the 85%... at least with the starters.
I am not the cheater dad. But man You are just hating on a team that's besting you. Remember these are 10 and mostly 11yr old boys playing a game.

Hey cheater Dad, whatever makes you feel better. I hear that every other team except Express is 100% holdbacks and Cheaters playing down. It's about time that Channy did what he needed to do to keep up.

Thank the good lord that you have decided to break the age barrier for your organization! It practically a Jackie Robinson moment.

If your kid was better and didn’t act like his weak father, this wouldn’t be an issue. Hey, but good job in fixing the problem. I’m sure all clubs are reading your pathetic posts and changing the way they run their teams.

Wow way to go 9d1 looks like you played some stiff competition yesterday

HAhahaha so you say the top teams have only "35% hold backs"..l think I am closer w/the 85%... at least with the starters.
I am not the cheater dad. But man You are just hating on a team that's besting you. Remember these are 10 and mostly 11yr old boys playing a game.[/quote

Exactly the point. Most 2025's are not mostly 11yr olds unless of course you play for cheating channy

That's what 91 wanted

Most if not all 2025's should be 10 at this point, not mostly 11. Unless your dad is holdback Harry or again your part of Express.

Nice job by Blast waiting it out till Geese, Ducks, Igloo and Express were done for the season. Congrats on your shirts. I guess this is what we can expect from your new coaches. As long as they put you in the weakest tournaments, they minimize your chances of losing? It's a good strategy for dealing with you parents.

As we start the week of Thanksgiving week and then start the most wonderful holiday season of the year, I wanted to say that I am thankful that my child is happy and healthy and that whatever teams and sports your child plays for that he is also happy and healthy. Mostly I am thankful for the fact that I could not give 2 $htz about any other team or organization or even how old some kids are, I only care about my own son, my own team, my own organization and that he continues to love this great sport.

You must me be from the channy cult saying most kids are 11 at this point in 2025. Any kid who is 11 now and playing 2025 is either a holdback or a 6th grader. Channy has both. Most of these 2025 teams are filled with 10 yr olds

One of the new kids is a summer birthday double hold back, they have no shame. Kid will not even make the WSYL roster so what is Channy relying on for that kid? Oh, its a grade based system. Whatever works for you Mikey teeth.

You are in denial. This is Lacrosse!! and ALL of the of the TOP teams- Exp, 91, Leg, Ducks all have hold backs on there roster. So they might not all be 11 yet, but a high % of these teams have 06 dob's.

I just an interview with Ty Xanders, he stated that he will no longer be including players that are in the "correct" age for their grade in his write-ups. His thinking is that if the parents don't care enough to hold the player back so as to give him an advantage in 5th grade than he longer will take that kid seriously and include him in write ups. I was shocked by his honesty but I understand the thought process, why reward parents for not holding their kid back.

parents that do not hold their kid back are
whiners not winners

Lol, no such thing as bad press. Express is clearly the best team after the fall season.

I hope this is parody...?

Absolute truth! Best 2024 team playing 2025 there is.

They swept the Havoc, Tristar, and N American without losing a game. I'd say that's pretty good. Geese are the only ones that beat them.

Its easy to sweep everyone when your playing down. Go bragging about playing teams a year younger

LOL @ Express.

EXPOSED!!!

Fake like Channy's teeth. Fake 2025s.

I am changing my opinion on things. Again my opinion, as I would prefer to look at this another way. I am actually starting to think grade based is going to end. Because they'll be more and more people adopting the US Lacrosse and WSYL age guidlines into grade based. It's the can'take beat join then mentality. Not saying it's right or agreeing. But just maybe this is a needed shakeup. Because this topic isn't going away.

It wasn't that easy... A Lot of close games and they even had a loss.

How is the great experiment going over at Geese?

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Unlike 91, at least they're playing against big boy teams

What experiment are you referring to , I assume you just are a S**t stirrer

Have a question unrelated to current topic. My son wants the EVO Warp head for Christmas but is getting use to a new head Maverick. He is a middie. Is it counterproductive to have him play with different sticks or just get use to one. Thanks novice lacrosse parents.

I prefer my son to get used to one for the season

Sorry Santa, but the Warp has not shown itself to be a very good head so far. If it was better, you would see tons of athletes using it, so far that hasn't happened. My son has one and he scrapped it because he said it did not give him any hold. There is nothing wrong with a young kid trying different equipment, but the Warp is an expensive experiment.

The Warp Pro is excellent. The other Warps are terrible, you’re better off buying a tennis racket. Either go Warp Pro or stay away from them. Make sure he tries the different pockets and whip levels before you buy as there is no changing it unlike a traditional head that can be restrung.