BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Age and Reclassification. The good the bad the ugly!

If USLacrosse really wants to "grow the game" in this country, why can't they make it possible for US fans to watch the playoff games that our national women's team is playing without having to pay to stream them?

Who cares....that's why. Games are boring and there is no competition. My 9th grade daughter could beat these "international" teams! On the other hand, I would love to see US Lacrosse grow some balls and enforce age-based competition. That's the next step that needs to be done to reduce the joke this sport is becoming.

Who cares....that's why. Games are boring and there is no competition. My 9th grade daughter could beat these "international" teams! On the other hand, I would love to see US Lacrosse grow some balls and enforce age-based competition. That's the next step that needs to be done to reduce the joke this sport is becoming.

why apologize for continued incompetent US LAX leadership? They are the worst there is. Sport is run by the clubs and as long as you have your useless US LAx membership card that's all they care about. Should have gone to player cards years ago to ensure kids are properly registered, insured,the right age and playing on the right team. How hard is that? US Lax is and remains a joke. That's how I really feel

Agreed 100%. Totally incompetent organization. And people wonder why this sport is a regarded as a joke. I would NEVER contribute one dime to them. They are hypocritical sleaze bags.

I wonder if that 8th grade football player down in Mississippi is a hold back. 6'4 and 286 pounds going into 8th grade with scholarship offers from SEC schools.

Agreed 100%. Totally incompetent organization. And people wonder why this sport is a regarded as a joke. I would NEVER contribute one dime to them. They are hypocritical sleaze bags.

Can you tell me where you read or saw where lacrosse is regarded as a joke? I would love to see these references. Thanks

Can you tell me where you read or saw where lacrosse is regarded as a joke? I would love to see these references. Thanks

Check your sons birthday and how that coincides with the normal grad year=JOKE

So I googled lacrosse is a joke like the poster suggested and the only reference I found was an urban dictionary statement that baseball is cool and lacrosse is for sissys. Thanks that was really helpful. Pretty sure the joke is in you a$$ clown, you post on a lacrosse website to a sport you hate. Spend some time with your kid, maybe he'll stop wearing dresses and talking like a girl. But there's nothing wrong with that! Just saying!! Keep it real LOSER!! Hahahaha

Someone please tell me how does one go about playing down if they say they will PG. What the progression? How is it all outlined? I've had many a conflicting conversation about this. This should be good.

I thought if you are in HS you can't magically lower your grade designation, Sure you can get left back or not finish a grade but that is not the point here.
1. Do you go to a Prep school (Avon / Taft / one of the Philips / Deerfield / TP etc) and say I want to enroll my son?
2. What is the enrollment criteria? (is it $$ and grades and/or Skill gets you in)
3. Do you say I want to enroll him now, or do you say in a year or 2? or do they tell you when?
4. Do they say okay if you come in your son will repeat x grade?
5. Does he continue on his academic progression and you get the benefit of taking other higher level courses strengthening his academic resume?
6. Or does he just repeat classes he already took?

Someone please tell me how does one go about playing down if they say they will PG. What the progression? How is it all outlined? I've had many a conflicting conversation about this. This should be good.

I thought if you are in HS you can't magically lower your grade designation, Sure you can get left back or not finish a grade but that is not the point here.
1. Do you go to a Prep school (Avon / Taft / one of the Philips / Deerfield / TP etc) and say I want to enroll my son?
2. What is the enrollment criteria? (is it $$ and grades and/or Skill gets you in)
3. Do you say I want to enroll him now, or do you say in a year or 2? or do they tell you when?
4. Do they say okay if you come in your son will repeat x grade?
5. Does he continue on his academic progression and you get the benefit of taking other higher level courses strengthening his academic resume?
6. Or does he just repeat classes he already took?

Someone please tell me how does one go about playing down if they say they will PG. What the progression? How is it all outlined? I've had many a conflicting conversation about this. This should be good.

I thought if you are in HS you can't magically lower your grade designation, Sure you can get left back or not finish a grade but that is not the point here.
1. Do you go to a Prep school (Avon / Taft / one of the Philips / Deerfield / TP etc) and say I want to enroll my son?
2. What is the enrollment criteria? (is it $$ and grades and/or Skill gets you in)
3. Do you say I want to enroll him now, or do you say in a year or 2? or do they tell you when?
4. Do they say okay if you come in your son will repeat x grade?
5. Does he continue on his academic progression and you get the benefit of taking other higher level courses strengthening his academic resume?
6. Or does he just repeat classes he already took?

They were just kidding. You can't just make up your grade. It's whatever grade you are currently enrolled for all grade based leagues. They were being sarcastic.

No, they were not, some said their child will repeat the current grade ( their child was in 80's) others said it is a pre college year (their children were 90's) but without an advanced course load? Does it depend on the needs of the child and what the family wants or does the school steer that ship?

As far as just playing a grade at random tournaments, my son would be recognized. I am having a hard enough time now seriously considering it; I could not do it without the PG being in motion. It is now or never to reclass/PG. If it is going to be done I would want to do it the right way, mainly play at his age, but yes, also squeeze in some games at his future college entrance year. (Only doing this for a spot at the school of his/our choice, the year above is loaded with talent a year separation helps all involved - red/blue shirt 5th year is not an option. I realize "I am changing his stars", and it is only lacrosse but it is a top school academically and athletically. Yes, he would be able to get in on his current year and be rostered but the reclass does set him up a lot better. if the PG program offers AP courses which will better prepare him for the rigors of the next level I say no brainer it is about making the college experience the best it can be in and out of the classroom.

This decision did not come lightly and have 3 family members playing and they all wished they had the options that have been laid out for us.

They were just kidding. You can't just make up your grade. It's whatever grade you are currently enrolled for all grade based leagues. They were being sarcastic.

I realize "I am changing his stars", and it is only lacrosse but it is a top school academically and athletically. Yes, he would be able to get in on his current year and be rostered but the reclass does set him up a lot better. if the PG program offers AP courses which will better prepare him for the rigors of the next level I say no brainer it is about making the college experience the best it can be in and out of the classroom.

This decision did not come lightly and have 3 family members playing and they all wished they had the options that have been laid out for us.

One question, who will wipe his butt for him when he does (finally) go to college?

Get a grip.

This is a reality for some. No need to resort to fatuous comments. Maybe open your mind a bit.

the topic started with the simple "Age and Reclassification. The good the bad the ugly!"

I would like to answer that

The Good - any kid that can use anything to his advantage to get into the best college he can get into.

The Bad - parents, kids or coaches that do it for any reason other than getting into a great academic college

The Ugly - People that anonymously expresses their opinion about how another person should raise his kids.

the topic started with the simple "Age and Reclassification. The good the bad the ugly!"

I would like to answer that

The Good - any kid that can use anything to his advantage to get into the best college he can get into.

The Bad - parents, kids or coaches that do it for any reason other than getting into a great academic college

The Ugly - People that anonymously expresses their opinion about how another person should raise his kids.

The above post is beyond stupid. Expressing an opinion that youth sports should be organized by age not grade somehow equates to telling people how to raise their kids????? Their should be an IQ test in order to use the internet.

Again, for the millionth time, from presumably many different anonymous posters - No one cares if you hold your kid back, start him late for kindergarten, have him repeat 8th grade, home school him, or none of the above. Do what is best for your kid. If you feel like this will help him gain entry to an Ivy League school, or better his chances of playing D1 lax, than that is fine. Its just that, in the opinion of many, while he is playing youth sports, his teammates and opponents should all be with a fixed 12 month age window.

There is simply no rational argument for youth sports to be organized by grade and not age. Again, for the people who are slow, this is NOT a complaint against holdbacks - please enroll your kid in whatever grade at school you think is best for him.

What's really ugly is that you and your kid are both cheating weasels

After reading through many of these forums over the years the age and reclassification debate consistently comes to dominate so many of the forums. With so many interested in the topic I think its a good time to debate all aspects including the good, the bad, and the ugly.
For purposes of this discussion let's start by setting the ground rules.
1. A player who complies with the US Lacrosse age requirement of Sept 1, but find themselves in a state that has a dec 1 school cutoff is NOT considered a hold back or reclassified if he is in the lower grade. You must even the playing field and for this argument Sept 1 is the most fair way to start.
2. That being said the current class of 2019 should be sept 1, 2000 or later and be u-13 eligible, and the class of 2017 should be sept 1, 1998 or later and would qualify as U-15.
3. This is not to say private schools don't have different requirement, but this is the fairest way to think of it.

The way many think of this is that the age in the younger divisions U-11 and U-13 are important due to safety. Then as you get into recruiting it then becomes an issue of fairness.

Each year at this time early recruiting class is full of reclassified players and this year is no different. There are boys who have left a public school and repeated 9th grade and other who repeated 8th grade in a private school and returned to public school. There are many ways to get this done and these are just two examples. Most of these players who are turning 16 before and or after the sept 1 us lacrosse guideline, reclassify down a year and repeat the recruiting circuit.
Fair? Not Fair? Short Lived until other boys mature? Exploiting the system. Let's have at it.

Seems to be the most talked topic. Let's debate and share opinions further.

Soccer and hockey have it...why cant lacrosse start..ID cards. Sept 1-Aug 31...only fair way to do this. Start in 4-5 grade on down. cant enforce it with older grades that have established team already. I would love to see it enforced from 8th grade down....Just wait till one boy gets really hurt because of a grade based tournament. I mean really really hurt..Parents will then be on board. Why does a boy have to get hurt really bad before we change this rule. Its about growing the game and getting more kids involved...Not championships for 4-8th grades and T shirts