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Wow the anger in this graduation year is mind-boggling. Let’s all move on. At this point, it is just arguing for the sake of arguing. Please for the love of the game....let’s agree to disagree.

Btw I hope you all had a happy thanksgiving.

DUMB DUMB. That article is from 2014. The Big 10 is no longer the only conference that guarantees athletic scholarships for 4 years. The Pac 12 does as well and there may be others.

It has nothing to do with this graduation year its related to when you have an ill informed poster stating things that are completely false. Its not a lets agree to disagree situation as its not an opinion or interpretation of rules. The reason some find it so annoying is it may cause people to stress out such as the player who has verballed but now reads this type of uneducated post and is now concerned that what their future coach told them is wrong.
"With multi-year scholarships now available for Division I schools, those colleges and universities have the option to offer athletics financial aid for more than one year. Such an agreement requires the school to provide financial aid to the student-athlete in accordance with the terms and conditions of the agreement. "
This is directly from the NCAA website. Its fairly easy to understand yet when you have someone who refuses to accept the information they are putting out there is incorrect it gets frustrating. In the end the lesson seems to be educate yourself so your child is in position to make the best choices.

I was speaking on behalf of the people that read this thread.

And yes I am on different graduation year threads..... this one exudes anger.

2020 is the second worst age group of all time. It used to be the worst, now it is eclipsed in a huge way by 2023.

Don't want to seem angry but how do you know who is reading this thread. My kid is a college freshman and I read this thread and sometimes post on it. Seems to me there is a lot of anger on many of the threads.

Lol. Will have to check it out.

Your probably correct. All I see here is name calling. People calling people [lacrosse]. Who gives a crap what someone posts anonymously. To call people [lacrosse], morons and clueless is silly. Whomever is responding is responding to an anonymous person. Who cares.

Regardless (I want to say irregardless but that is not a word......please don’t argue that).....it’s a chat board...people have opinions and some are wrong but to get belligerent about it is not only not appropriate but immature.

I am not speaking to you directly. I am referring to the board. I am sure on this thread someone will come at me for this.

Move on, Jesus Christ everyone’s a google expert. Forum was actually having a good discussion and the last 4 pages of I’m right your wrong about scholarships is ridiculous. Let’s get back to either the YJ bashing or the showcase equal playing time discussion.

I just can’t wait until next year when the coaches start calling my daughter and the lil b&@ches and their mother’s from her team start crying because their no talent private school girl daughters’ who have zero skill or speed aren’t getting a single call. We were at the President Cup and I literally heard a mother say about a opponent we were playing “ I really don’t know how that girl is committed to Penn State, she’s not that good” the parent goggles these people have are unreal. I watched the girl for 2 minutes during warmups and could tell she was good. Big, fast and great stick skills. There’s a reason the girls are already committed, and the top reason is they are athletic. But half of the parents on my daughters team don’t get it.

I love these guys who are top talent evaluators. They know EVERYTHING. "The top reason is they are athletic." Pure genius. They are being recruited for a sport, one would assume that being athletic is a big part of that? Hmmm. But lets dig a little deeper into his psyche. Because it is clear that his daughter was not an early 2020 commit. But he likes to emphasize big, fast. So we know his daughter's type. Not a very good lacrosse player, but an "athlete". She will have a place for sure in college lax, but she will be a defender/defensive middie. Dime a dozen.

Want some other reasons why girls get recruited first? #1 lax IQ/Field vision = can't teach it. #2 Quickness, not just straight line speed #3 Stick skills (which he thankfully mentions w the Penn St. recruit because most of the 'big, fast' promoters think that stick skills just come along) #4 lax IQ/Field Vision #5 Lax IQ/Field vision. Get it????

You must be one of those to talent evaluators who you love so much.

Where did you go ?

Not all scholarships are guaranteed for four years, plenty of schools it changes from year to year[/quote]

Scholarships are year to year ....... you are correct. [/quote]

Some are some are not .Have never heard of the let's make life miserable thing , again let's hear the coaches who have supposedly done this . [/quote]

All athletic scholarships are year to year
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Where did you go ? [/quote]

The Big 5--SEC, ACC, Big 10, Big 12 and Pac 12--guarantee scholarships. Know first hand. They start low (and guaranteed for four years) for freshman year, then go up based upon effort, performance, leadership, etc. You don't want to commit 50% for four years and then have a kid decide not to play. . .

Enough already. Who gives a crap!!

What is everyone's opinion on summer coaches coaching varsity teams with some of their summer players on the team? Seems like a pay to play conflict. There is a reason most schools won't let classroom teachers tutor the kids in their class

What would you rather discuss , which team won the showcase tournament that barely any of the committed kids show up at. Agreed with the previous poster except many of those schools do make considerable offers to their top recruits starting year 1. By considerable I mean over 50 percent of the cost of attendance .

LOL, right. . .let's talk about who's beating up who and which club stinks! OP, and yes, you're right. From what I've heard and "learned" from coaches, top 1-3 recruits incoming will get over 50 percent, then a drop down to 15 to 20 percent (per year guaranteed) to next group, then book money (1-2%), then nothing (which doesn't mean these aren't good players....they may be in state for state schools). A public school tuition like MD or UVA for even an out of stater is already half of a private. . .so many of the Big 5 can go low early and high later which makes the guarantee less odious. And this obviously is one hearsay story...each coach has a different MO. Of course, there's always that one parent whose kid got the FULL RIDE. . .and I believe it! </sarcasm>

Your cost of going to a state school from out of state is not even close . Out of state at UVA cost of attendance is around 60 k, most private schools such as Duke are around 65k.

All quiet on the western front

Winter is coming. Not much going on until the clinics start up in January.

Clinics. That’s hilarious

The 'money-grabs' in January?

Speaking of money grabs, does anyone have any thoughts to share on Nike Elite 120 in July? Worth it or not?

Last year no. They were inviting the age groups prior to the new NCAA contact rules. Historically this has been the richest coach per player ratio out there. But they also changed the time of year, so who knows what the turnout will be. But it will probably be good for 2020's, but not 21's.

No coaches were at event. UA 150 just as bad

NCAA recruiting for lax is going to Change. NCAA not going to have individual rules for non revenue sports. US lax has article. Vote coming 4/1/18. Contact with PSA will be 9/1 of Sophomore year at clinics and camps of that school. Still no official visit until Junior year. I like official visit being moved up a year so kids can see schools and make better choice and not rush. Now they have to go on five official visits in Sept and Oct of senior year.

I like the NCAA proposal. It moves it up a year, but still respect time of not too soon.....and it is for ALL sports.

In fact, yes. And won't be taking your daughter.

Coaches--both men and women are working to make sure Lacrosse is exempt from the new proposed legislation IF it gets passed. There are too many dates, much more confusing about what you can do and when. Sept 1 of junior year for everything is just simple and easier to regulate. Plus, lacrosse hasn't even had a chance to see how the new legislation is actually going to work. It will be 2-3 years before there is a better sense of how things will be moving forward.

Generally speaking, the NCAA is reactionary. The issue of early recruiting was not on their radar before the lacrosse coaches put it there. Likewise, the days of 'one size fits all' legislation are over. Field Hockey coaches were on board with the lacrosse concept but the Sept 1 date is not ideal for them or any fall sports for that matter due to the timing of their seasons. Coaching groups are scrambling right now to get what they want in place before the NCAA tries to impose it upon them. Stay tuned....

So witty ,only took you over a week to come up with that .Hopefully your daughters lax IQ is not related to your IQ.

Anyone who writes "lil blank" in a girl's youth lax forum" should probably check themselves in to Bellevue.

Anyone who writes "lil Blank" in a girl's youth lax forum" should probably check themselves in to Bellevue.

I agree but that's a different person from the one who is making you look like a fool trying to be the know it all talent evaluator .

I agree but that's a different person from the one who is making you look like a fool trying to be the know it all talent evaluator .[/quote]

yeah ok. you just got called out for being a complete DB and now you r trying to run from it. So also a coward. Nice.

Seems not only are you a terrible evaluator but also have zero concept that muntiple people actually post on this site .Lets "dig a little deeper " into your psyche, you think you know what all college coaches are looking for , your an internet tough guy , you cannot accept that multiple people on this site think your a fool. Essentially it's obvious that you are the protypical braggart lacrosse dad who everyone tolerates but cannot stand , sadly you know this but cannot help yourself on the sideline .Gotta love the internet fake tough guy anonymously calling others a coward , now go back to your evaluating of 12 -13 year old girls , creepy at best , illlegal at worst.

Angry much. Terrible grammar and spelling. Look who's the "internet tough guy". And definitely same guy. Time for you to grow up. Your poor daughter.

Why don't we try a new subject. Any predictions for top 5 in Women's NCAA this year? I say Neither UNC or Maryland win it this year. I'll go with a bit of a wildcard given the last few years, Northwestern.

Seriously if you are going to write like you have calling someone out on their grammar is hilarious .Now go back to your 12-13 year old talent evaluation business ,I guess that's why your known as the HW of youth lacrosse , just creepy .You have been abused enough it's time to move on from your ignorance.

Lay off the sauce, loser.

Could use a change in the conversation. So why Northwestern? They seem to be getting worse and worse every year, why this year? They seemed to have changed their recruiting philosophy and it has hurt them lately. KAH loves the idea of finding some out of the box player and turning them into All Americans. It worked on her first go round. But trying to turn Texas and Canada into the next Womens hotbed is a bit too far out of the box thinking. Actually the player from Canada may be from inside the box, lol.

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