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No idea of what your point is or who you are agreeing with. Want to try that again???

No idea of what your point is or who you are agreeing with. Want to try that again???

Madlax






































Everyone else

MADDY... where you been??? We missed your dumb posts!!

What you want to talk about, your best player on the planet again?? That's been pretty much beaten to death don't you think??

How about all of the rest of your holdbacks, which are now keeping your team of from entering the biggest tourney in your sons youth.

That's always a good one. Let's start there.... how "cheaters never prosper".

You go first...

To the dad that made the following post...

So, the smallest kids, (which usually are the coaches sons) for the most part play which position???
While the larger kids can play anywhere on the field..
Size and athleticism has everything to do with it. You can't teach those attributes but you can teach stick skills and IQ.
If size didn't matter why would the smallest kids all be huddled at attack??

Here's my response to you...

Dude, you have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about. You are saying only the smallest kids play attack. Let's look at the top 3 LI teams. In no special order, they are Taz, WP and Express. The starting attack for each of those teams have at least one big player on it, if not two. This is fact. If your son plays for one of these teams, which I'm sure he does, you must already know this. Taking these three teams as examples, approximately half of the attackman are larger kids. So, you are completely wrong when you say only the small kids play attack. That begs the question... why are you making that statement if it is not true?? That's simple. You are obsessed with your jealousy of small talented players, because you perceive them to be getting all of the glory, and taking that glory position away from your son who is a bigger kid, playing defense. That sound about right. You bet it does! I'm willing to bet that you are a jealous defenseman's dad from Taz, which really narrows it down for anyone who is trying to figure out who you are. I've heard there is a lot of that going on with Taz. And the comment about coaches sons playing attack, totally gave you away!! Your son is one of the bigger kids and you perceive that his size equates to ability and lacrosse IQ. But you have never played the sport, so you really have no idea. It doesn't. So, he is stuck with a pole in his hand. Not everyone can be an attackmen, like not everyone can be a quarterback. In order to make a lacrosse team work, you need good solid defenders. In football, you need a good solid line. Bottom line for you: Get use to it. It's probably never going to change. Value the defenseman position for it's important contribution to the team, and don't belittle it, just because there isn't a lot of glory associated with it.

I am a knowledgeable coach and former D1 player, and I am not telling you that. You are an ignorant dad who never played the game. You know nothing except what some other dad told you, who is in your same position.

LISTEN UP!!! You really think that High Schools teams are hiding players on attack?? You think college teams are hiding players on attack?? You think top level youth teams are hiding people at attack??

Players that need to be hidden don't play!!!

You obviously talked to a youth town coach for a team that was either VERY young or VERY bad. On such teams, yes, you can hide people at attack. However, once you get past that early youth stage, the most skilled, best offensive players get moved to attack. Why? If these are your best scorers and play makers, you want to keep them in a place where they can do you the most good for the team. It's common sense. You want your best players on the field at all times. If your best players are playing midfield, then a good majority of the time, they are NOT EVEN ON THE FIELD, or they are playing defense or in transition... NOT in a position where they can do the most good for the team... in the offensive zone, scoring.

if you don't know anything about the subject matter, keep your mouth shut!




Think of it this way, defenders are the lineman of lacrosse. In football, the skill players play quarterback, receiver and running back. Everyone wants to be the quarterback, but very few ever get the opportunity. In lacrosse, the skill position is attack. The less-skilled position (relatively speaking) is defense. This is not a debate. Not trying to be a wise-a$$ here. It is what it is. If you are just finding this out now, then you really have not been paying attention.

What are you the the end all of lacrosse. You are the dumb [lacrosse] coach that wrote it. The worst advice I have seen to date. I doubt you ever played D 1 or coach. And if you played D1 lacrosse you would never say something that stupid as a coach . I feel bad for your teammates and the kids you coach in your little fantasy land. .. haha !!! that better DUMB [lacrosse]...

Yes, compared to you and other clueless parents, I am the end all of lacrosse. Read and learn something. Then shut up.

I am a knowledgeable coach and former D1 player, and I am not telling you that. You are an ignorant dad who never played the game. You know nothing except what some other dad told you, who is in your same position.

LISTEN UP!!! You really think that High Schools teams are hiding players on attack?? You think college teams are hiding players on attack?? You think top level youth teams are hiding people at attack??

Players that need to be hidden don't play!!!

You obviously talked to a youth town coach for a team that was either VERY young or VERY bad. On such teams, yes, you can hide people at attack. However, once you get past that early youth stage, the most skilled, best offensive players get moved to attack. Why? If these are your best scorers and play makers, you want to keep them in a place where they can do you the most good for the team. It's common sense. You want your best players on the field at all times. If your best players are playing midfield, then a good majority of the time, they are NOT EVEN ON THE FIELD, or they are playing defense or in transition... NOT in a position where they can do the most good for the team... in the offensive zone, scoring.

if you don't know anything about the subject matter, keep your mouth shut!




Think of it this way, defenders are the lineman of lacrosse. In football, the skill players play quarterback, receiver and running back. Everyone wants to be the quarterback, but very few ever get the opportunity. In lacrosse, the skill position is attack. The less-skilled position (relatively speaking) is defense. This is not a debate. Not trying to be a wise-a$$ here. It is what it is. If you are just finding this out now, then you really have not been paying attention.

Try putting weak players at Def... Then you will see how good your goalie is.. Each position on the field has attributes that will draw certain players to it. The only thing I will concede is that your middies need the most endurance of the positions.

Weaker skilled kids don’t mean they are weak defenders. Try to stay up here. They are weaker on the Lacrosse skills of passing, catching, off hand, shooting, dodging and IQ. That doesn’t mean they can’t be strong defenders. Those skills just aren’t that important for defenseman.

I don't know... constantly telling people to shut up coupled with the out of control arrogance makes you seem a little desperate for respect?

Weaker skilled kids don’t mean they are weak defenders. Try to stay up here. They are weaker on the Lacrosse skills of passing, catching, off hand, shooting, dodging and IQ. That doesn’t mean they can’t be strong defenders. Those skills just aren’t that important for defenseman.

I've see more than a few players who were heads and shoulders the most talented and skilled player on the field at ANY position, and then decide to take up a a pole and be a defenseman.

I've see more than a few players who were heads and shoulders the most talented and skilled player on the field at ANY position, and then decide to take up a a pole and be a defenseman.

Weaker skilled kids don’t mean they are weak defenders. Try to stay up here. They are weaker on the Lacrosse skills of passing, catching, off hand, shooting, dodging and IQ. That doesn’t mean they can’t be strong defenders. Those skills just aren’t that important for defenseman.

I've see more than a few players who were heads and shoulders the most talented and skilled player on the field at ANY position, and then decide to take up a a pole and be a defenseman.

How many of you guys have full-on tat sleeves? 50%? 60%?

LOL. We can smell/see you guys a mile away. Feel fortunate we weren't playing our best in DE and you made it somewhat close.

do not waste your time. You are having a debate with a MORON!!!

Defenders don’t need to throw, catch strong and weak or dodge? I guess that’s true if they don’t want to clear the ball

do not waste your time. You are having a debate with a MORON!!!

Defenders don’t need to throw, catch strong and weak or dodge? I guess that’s true if they don’t want to clear the ball

do not waste your time. You are having a debate with a MORON!!!

Defenders don’t need to throw, catch strong and weak or dodge? I guess that’s true if they don’t want to clear the ball

Defenders don’t need to throw, catch strong and weak or dodge? I guess that’s true if they don’t want to clear the ball

You are lying, or you don't have a clue of what you are looking at when you watch a lacrosse game. That has NEVER happened. I'm done beating the dead horse. If you want to refuse to acknowledge reality, that's completely up to you. Maybe your fantasy world is a better place for you. The reality is, your son will likely always be a defenseman, if he chooses to continue playing this sport. There is no shame at all in playing defense. They are extremely valuable contributors to every team. But stop bashing the people that play attack, which is what sparked this whole tirade. Your pole aint never going to play attack. You know why?? he aint good enough!! Get use to it.

I've see more than a few players who were heads and shoulders the most talented and skilled player on the field at ANY position, and then decide to take up a a pole and be a defenseman.

Mad Daddy is BAAAAAAAAACK!

Mad Daddy, we need to catch up...

You and your holdbacks have a tourney this weekend?

We're going to miss you in Denver next year. How about you just leave all of your hold backs home and go anyway?? It would be fun!

If it were up to us here on LI, we'd tell you to bring all of your hold backs... doesn't matter to us. We're all use to Madlax cheating. You guys have always been cheaters since day one, right Mad daddy?!! Nothing different for us. Either way, your little hold backs would go home crying, so maybe it's not such a good idea.

You can deny it all you want, but I don't need to make it up. In the most prominent case, it was a kid who was starting at attack or middie on a U- national team, and he switched to pole mid-season. And for the record, my sons are both middies. But, please continue to act like a sanctimonious [lacrosse].

The kid was a leading scorer on his club team before he moved to pole - a team that he still plays with, and is one of the best in the country - the kid would be the best at any position on the field if he wanted to play it. You can deny it all you want,.but the facts are all in conflict with every one of your assumptions. Considering he did all of this both on a top LI club team AND with a national U- team. Keep reaching . . .

And that concludes our first edition of LACROSSE FOR DUMMIES - Defense 101.

I trust that you found it both informative and entertaining.

Stay tuned for next weeks edition: Goal Tenders: Fact & Fiction.

You’re not going to want to miss that one!!

Until then... LAX-ON my brothers!!!


As a Lax mom, i appreciate all of your valuable insights. You are quite the authority on the subject. I have learned a lot. Thank you! BTW. You sound really hot! What do you look like?? 😍