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Well said and true!

Well said and true!

Absolutely hopefully CR sees this post and starts making cuts immediately. We need to stay ahead of the curve knowing the current girls will be washed up by 11th grade. We need a taller team so we can rule for years to come.

people are in denial if they don't think that it is already worked out that 91 girls are on the A team....you


you people are in denial if they don't think that it is already worked out that 91 girls are on the A team....roster already listing 91 girls and tryouts are this weekend ...MS girls will take over and all you "loyal" players will get a reality check but please don't complain cause you will still stay !!!!!

She'll be starting over your daughter.

And be blamed when YJ falls even further down in the rankings.

And be blamed when YJ falls even further down in the rankings.

There is YJ and everyone else.

And YJ has a 2-2 record against Igloo and also lost on a last second goal and beat Igloo by 1 goal in each of their wins. These teams are all very close . But if a team only wins by 1 or 2 goals everytime they play thats called parity. It's inevitable with all these different teams popping up. It's happens in travel and in the pros . The people who say this team sucks or that team sucks are basic . Basic retards .

Everyone else that is better than them, at least 2 now, expect more.

that's what you believe ...maybe back in the day when there wasn't 100 of clubs out there....now they are just like the rest nothing special

YJ playing M&D black at Primetime. With the new 91 girls rostered it will be interesting to see how they perform.

You mean TG and everyone else

You mean TG and everyone else
ha ha ha ha lol

Will be a beat down. Don’t be surprised if the Schedule changes and YJ winds up playing PAL level teams, then bragging that they won like they did all summer.

Appreciate your faith in the sysem...but who judged these girls to be A team material. The obvious daddy coaches? I mean seriously. And he gets to bring over his team? new coaches daughter...and others (9 maybe not 10)? That is BS. REAL BS! Yes there is a predetermination but when and how? Like to see how this turns out..but it seems YJ has no loyalty to their players...who are just as good or better than outsiders. They continue to cut off their nose despite their face...

[quote=Anonymous]And YJ has a 2-2 record against Igloo and also lost on a last second goal and beat Igloo by 1 goal in each of their wins. These teams are all very close . But if a team only wins by 1 or 2 goals everytime they play thats called parity. It's inevitable with all these different teams popping up. It's happens in travel and in the pros . The people who say this team sucks or that team sucks are basic . Basic retards .

Yes looking back at the archives back in 2015 YJ did beat Igloo 2x.

For all intensive purposes this is correct!

I've seen the MS girls play Green Hornets 3x and get beat badly. Those girls are no way an answer to the YJ troubles.

You're seriously bringing up 2015? Different girls different maturity level. Irrelevant! Get a grip YJ is grasping at straws now.

Your Magic 8 ball tells you the best 7th grade girls won't be the best in 11th grade. Nobody can predict the future on how girls will grow and develop other than you based on your first sentence. The best players haven't started playing yet? Completely false that used to happen not anymore lets see where all these new stars land at tryouts. Size and speed will rule? How about other intangibles like lax IQ, heart, hustle, work ethic I guess that doesn't matter. And if size and speed will rule in the years to come why don't they rule now?
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Size and speed don't rule? What games do you watch? If it sticks by high school, tall and fast girls are sought after. What sport is size and speed not desired? Heart and lax IQ are absolutely important, but if girls are running past you, where is heart going to get you? On the bench, that's where. Slow girls with good sticks and lax IQ play attack. I guess you have no experience with high school track. Some girls - not all girls - that are fast in 9th grade are no longer fast by 11th and 12th grade. Fast girls with decent stick skills make really good defenders, especially backers. Wait 3 years and see how many girls on these 2023 teams are still superstars in high school. Probably not even half. So funny how these 7th grade teams are analyzed. They didn't even play a middle school game yet.

Size and speed don't rule? What games do you watch? If it sticks by high school, tall and fast girls are sought after. What sport is size and speed not desired? Heart and lax IQ are absolutely important, but if girls are running past you, where is heart going to get you? On the bench, that's where. Slow girls with good sticks and lax IQ play attack. I guess you have no experience with high school track. Some girls - not all girls - that are fast in 9th grade are no longer fast by 11th and 12th grade. Fast girls with decent stick skills make really good defenders, especially backers. Wait 3 years and see how many girls on these 2023 teams are still superstars in high school. Probably not even half. So funny how these 7th grade teams are analyzed. They didn't even play a middle school game yet.[/quote]

The top girls now will absolutely be the tops in HS. They have already separated themselves with a combination of size, speed, power , athleticism in general, and work ethic. They also excell at the other sports they play. You don’t just magically get great. I have older kids and have been through this. The vast majority of those who stood out in 7th and 8th grade still do. Yes there are a couple of outliers, but those are the exception not the norm.

It's a recap of the last 2 seasons you basic cable dweller Just a quick correction, YJ beat Igloo 2x's in 2016. I'm not use about 2015. You could be correct but I don't know for sure. So Igloo and Top Gun both won 1 goal games this year....Close games . If that means YJ sucks in your trailer park mentality then God Bless. You are 1 goal better than the team that sucks beyond words. If we are going on ONLY 2017 because you are so recent and relavant, then Igloo won the Nationals . They are the best of 2017.. End of story .. But I'm sure you will respond with some witty factoid on how TG is the best team on Long Island and you also have a 12 inch dk. Go kill yourself because it's so over done. Now go get your shine box son

The top girls now will absolutely be the tops in HS. They have already separated themselves with a combination of size, speed, power , athleticism in general, and work ethic. They also excell at the other sports they play. You don’t just magically get great. I have older kids and have been through this. The vast majority of those who stood out in 7th and 8th grade still do. Yes there are a couple of outliers, but those are the exception not the norm.
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Agree with some of this, many early standouts are based on accelerated stick skills (you can teach that). Very true, those kids lose ground as time marches on. This is very hard for parents to accept and it happens all the time. I would also say that the very best (small handful, not entire roster of A teamers) of the 7th graders who rule the roost now, do so because of more than just stick skills and will still rule in 12th grade. It is mostly speed (can't teach) and pure athletic ability (can't teach). IQ (can teach) very important, and huge is field awareness (can't teach). Size only matters in terms of height for the draw girl and can also be a disadvantage depending on position. So half of what makes players great can be taught and the other half needs to be born in. It is a very rare player that has all of these, LI as a whole (even Md) would be lucky to have 1-3 kids like this in each age group. I also feel many kids are further downgraded by the mindset that most of you parents have beaten into them, the selfish, go to goal mentality that ruins many of these players and teams.

Nope they are most certainly not the answer! But there you have it your new YJ A team! They didn't have to earn their way like everyone else, what tournaments did they play in? MD? Have they played top level teams? ...They can probably bring a book to try outs because they won't have to do anything at tryouts like the rest of the A team. Congratulations!

[quote=Anonymous]It's a recap of the last 2 seasons you basic cable dweller Just a quick correction, YJ beat Igloo 2x's in 2016. I'm not use about 2015. You could be correct but I don't know for sure. So Igloo and Top Gun both won 1 goal games this year....Close games . If that means YJ sucks in your trailer park mentality then God Bless. You are 1 goal better than the team that sucks beyond words. If we are going on ONLY 2017 because you are so recent and relavant, then Igloo won the Nationals . They are the best of 2017.. End of story .. But I'm sure you will respond with some witty factoid on how TG is the best team on Long Island and you also have a 12 inch dk. Go kill yourself because it's so over done. Now go get your shine box son

YJ 0-3 vs Igloo and TG.

Ok, already...YJ is awesome. Igloo is amazing. We get it. Don't want you to have a heart attack trying to find all the stats you possibly can to make the previous proclaimations true. Ha

Any person that has attended a Y.J. tryout will not shed a tear for any "Blue" team member. For years the "tryout" has been stacked against any player not already on the "blue" team, I have attended every major clubs tryout (I don't include Igloo because they are not a major club in my mind, In my experience they will most likely be gone or irrelevant in the next 2 to 3 years like every other boy first girl second club) and the Y.J is by far the most bias. Blue girls what there blue pinie, gold wears gold, , what a sham. All rosters are made months beforehand with shady backroom deals, and you now want to cry because that same system that you once benefited from has now turned on you, Sorry afraid not, now you know how everyone els feels

And TD 3-1 Against Igloo most recently beating them by 3. Are you really as dumb as you seem. TG won both championships they played against Igloo. Why would this even be a question?

Realize it’s a typical response of a pinhead YJ daddy whose daughter is about to be on the B team😂

Who beat who is irrelevant, none of it matters past the whistle at the end of the game. Even the Yankees are not dwelling on a game won or lost in 2015. Go ask your daughter if she is learning, feels she is being challenged/getting better, likes her teammates, gets what she needs from her coach. If she can answer those questions with a yes, it doesn't matter what her jersey has printed on it.
The grass isn't greener, you don't get these years with your daughter back. Enjoy the ride, and more important, make sure SHE is.

yikes I would not want to be one of the newbies! They are going to have to be infallible ..the critics are going to be harsh! Again whole thing is a sham...Its who you are connected with this age group in particular. Team 91 has the connections and are now top dog...

Irrelevant to the losers maybe. The grass got way greener after we escaped toxic YJ. That drama is enough to get a girl to hate the sport and quit.

yikes I would not want to be one of the newbies! They are going to have to be infallible ..the critics are going to be harsh! Again whole thing is a sham...Its who you are connected with this age group in particular. Team 91 has the connections and are now top dog...

Before saying if they can or can't compete at this level let's wait until the Primetime tournament to pass judgement on the 91 players.

so funny for all you YJ people last year that said 91 sucked ...now your daughter will be playing with them and you will brag how great they how ...so hypocritical !

Igloo
TG black
YJ blue
Legacy
Elevate
Jesters
Brookhaven
Blue Devils

These are the better teams in the age group. Should Liberty be on this list?

people are not happy but when you couldn't get the job done changes have to be made

Sort of like how all the TG people come on here and say that the YJ team is terrible then play a 1 goal game against them that could have gone either way. Seems that all travel teams think the other travel teams stink.

M&D the BEST M&D the BEST

yes! it really is sad that everyone worries about the score of other games...instead they should be focusing on their child only ! even sadder that parents actually believe 12 year old lax means anything...

Seriously . I wish I had a crayon to write what I'm about to write so you would understand. I conceded in the previous post that YJ lost 2 of the 3 games by 1 one goal. No matter how you slice it TG will always be the Mets of Long Island lacrosse and YJ the Yankees . No matter what you do you are still the Mets.. Now go heat up your lunchables and go color.

Says the loser! 1 goal or 5 goals, you lost, get over it! You also lost to Igloo. You are number 3 on LI. You get to watch as other teams get their tee shirt. What you should be worrying about is whether your daughter will be cut by a crappy team tomorrow. Now go have another drink as you obsess about why TG is better than YJ.