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Re: holdbacks TM@BOTC #349097 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Good news for the majority of the lax community! It appears USL is making strides to eliminate the holdback problem and will be mandating ALL youth and club lacrosse programs that use it's insurance to organize by birth year, not school grade. The directive will be phased in and programs must transition by 2023. Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349099 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Good news for the majority of the lax community! It appears USL is making strides to eliminate the holdback problem and will be mandating ALL youth and club lacrosse programs that use it's insurance to organize by birth year, not school grade. The directive will be phased in and programs must transition by 2023. Fake news Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349103 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Good news for the majority of the lax community! It appears USL is making strides to eliminate the holdback problem and will be mandating ALL youth and club lacrosse programs that use it's insurance to organize by birth year, not school grade. The directive will be phased in and programs must transition by 2023. link? Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349104 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Good news for the majority of the lax community! It appears USL is making strides to eliminate the holdback problem and will be mandating ALL youth and club lacrosse programs that use it's insurance to organize by birth year, not school grade. The directive will be phased in and programs must transition by 2023. Fake news 3Step involved, they will be able to control all their events. Rising JR & SR (High School) will be based on grade for recruiting all others birth years. So some kids will play as rising JR multiple times Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349110 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Good news for the majority of the lax community! It appears USL is making strides to eliminate the holdback problem and will be mandating ALL youth and club lacrosse programs that use it's insurance to organize by birth year, not school grade. The directive will be phased in and programs must transition by 2023. Fake news Not fake news. Priority #1 of USL next year. The clubs and recs who start planning now will be the ones that thrive. Exciting to hear. It will be tough next year, but good for the game, overall. Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349111 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Good news for the majority of the lax community! It appears USL is making strides to eliminate the holdback problem and will be mandating ALL youth and club lacrosse programs that use it's insurance to organize by birth year, not school grade. The directive will be phased in and programs must transition by 2023. Fake news 3Step involved, they will be able to control all their events. Rising JR & SR (High School) will be based on grade for recruiting all others birth years. So some kids will play as rising JR multiple times This. Not just 3step involved. There are others. No link yet. Lots to figure out still, but this is indeed the plan. Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349116 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A There will be plenty of tournament options outside of USL. Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks TM@BOTC #349127 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Well that’s interesting. Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349130 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Good news for the majority of the lax community! It appears USL is making strides to eliminate the holdback problem and will be mandating ALL youth and club lacrosse programs that use it's insurance to organize by birth year, not school grade. The directive will be phased in and programs must transition by 2023. Fake news 3Step involved, they will be able to control all their events. Rising JR & SR (High School) will be based on grade for recruiting all others birth years. So some kids will play as rising JR multiple times This. Not just 3step involved. There are others. No link yet. Lots to figure out still, but this is indeed the plan. Get NLF on board and could work. Would benefit the NY clubs Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks TM@BOTC #349136 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A All those private clubs in Baltimore that require your son to have a USL number to tryout will likely have to comply. Or pay much, much, more for insurance elsewhere. Good call and good move by USL. Glad they are stepping up. Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks TM@BOTC #349144 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A It will never happen. Should, but never will. Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks TM@BOTC #349164 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A People do realize that before things went grade based there will still plenty of kids/teams "cheating" The team my son played on in the old aged based Mpll(?) had 5-6 who would be considered holdbacks today and that was besides the 5 older kids you were allowed to have by league rules. This was u9. He was a 3rd grader and we would see 5th graders from our school on opposing clubs Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks TM@BOTC #349196 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A People will always cheat. The soccer system requires birth certificates to be uploaded to register. USL can go that route. OR USL can just continue to ask for birth date with registration. It's needed for the insurance requirements. If parents want to cheat, they can certainly provide the wrong birth date. But no insurance coverage if something happens. Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349203 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous People will always cheat. The soccer system requires birth certificates to be uploaded to register. USL can go that route. OR USL can just continue to ask for birth date with registration. It's needed for the insurance requirements. If parents want to cheat, they can certainly provide the wrong birth date. But no insurance coverage if something happens. So, simple answer is to require birth certificates for USL #s and require numbers for all to compete tournaments. I guess kind of like World Series and nationals? Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks TM@BOTC #349208 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Well this thread just put 28 out of business. That’s all they talk about Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349210 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Well this thread just put 28 out of business. That’s all they talk about Does it upset you Dads who held their son back to play against younger children since they couldnt compete against children their own age? Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks TM@BOTC #349225 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Many youth football leagues require state issued (from the MVA) ID cards for all players. They are on the sideline for every game and checked by opposing coaches before every game. How wholesome. Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349236 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Many youth football leagues require state issued (from the MVA) ID cards for all players. They are on the sideline for every game and checked by opposing coaches before every game. How wholesome. Holding a kid back in school because he's "immature" so he can be up to two years older than the competition. How wholesome. Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349240 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Many youth football leagues require state issued (from the MVA) ID cards for all players. They are on the sideline for every game and checked by opposing coaches before every game. How wholesome. Holding a kid back in school because he's "immature" so he can be up to two years older than the competition. How wholesome. Play sports on age. School is based other other criteria. Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349251 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous All those private clubs in Baltimore that require your son to have a USL number to tryout will likely have to comply. Or pay much, much, more for insurance elsewhere. Good call and good move by USL. Glad they are stepping up. will have minimal impact. Will impact tourneys more than clubs. All this means is fewer tourneys will use USL insurance. (which few tourneys outside of MD/VA/PA use anyway. Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349256 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Well this thread just put 28 out of business. That’s all they talk about Does it upset you Dads who held their son back to play against younger children since they couldnt compete against children their own age? Not at all. If you can’t make in 27 it’s really easy just re class as 28. Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349263 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Lol at least he is honest. Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks TM@BOTC #349266 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A All the holdbacks are the first to commit. So it works. Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks TM@BOTC #349268 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Stop crying about the holdbacks. My son is a 2022 D1 commit undersized and on age. He can play and is very good. People complaining about holdbacks are only making excuses for their kids that are not very good. And btw most of that top 2022 kids played up for years until high school only made them better. Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349276 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous All the holdbacks are the first to commit. So it works. Such as sad thing to say . My kid couldn’t make it so I held him back to look better for college Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349277 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Stop crying about the holdbacks. My son is a 2022 D1 commit undersized and on age. He can play and is very good. People complaining about holdbacks are only making excuses for their kids that are not very good. And btw most of that top 2022 kids played up for years until high school only made them better. Played up until they played down (re classed) Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349286 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Stop crying about the holdbacks. My son is a 2022 D1 commit undersized and on age. He can play and is very good. People complaining about holdbacks are only making excuses for their kids that are not very good. And btw most of that top 2022 kids played up for years until high school only made them better. What a joke. Played up for years,,,Now that is funny. holdbacks/reclass/prefirst all play down and have for many years now. Its the Baltimore Private School Way. The best is when a holdback or prefirst plays his age ( which is rare) and the parent proudly boasts he is playing up, LOL .. Of course all the on age players are donig what , playing down ?? LOL Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349296 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous All the holdbacks are the first to commit. So it works. Such as sad thing to say . My kid couldn’t make it so I held him back to look better for college The holdbacks are the first to commit…a year or two later than they should have. Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks TM@BOTC #349357 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Just saw a social media post about a former CHC player who was written up in IL as part of their Midnight Madness coverage. If I'm not mistaken, the kid is a two-time holdback and now a 2023. Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349369 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Wouldn't surprise me. There are rare cases where this is a good idea, but so many people are doing it now from Long Island because it works. Have to keep up with the Maryland men. Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349374 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Just saw a social media post about a former CHC player who was written up in IL as part of their Midnight Madness coverage. If I'm not mistaken, the kid is a two-time holdback and now a 2023. Only way for CHC players to get that much coverage. Flashback to Class of 2020. Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349379 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Just saw a social media post about a former CHC player who was written up in IL as part of their Midnight Madness coverage. If I'm not mistaken, the kid is a two-time holdback and now a 2023. You are mistaken. He was ‘22. Not the mythical double holdback. Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349383 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Just saw a social media post about a former CHC player who was written up in IL as part of their Midnight Madness coverage. If I'm not mistaken, the kid is a two-time holdback and now a 2023. You are mistaken. He was ‘22. Not the mythical double holdback. There is only the occasional mythical double holdback in MIAA, But you do see them every once in awhile. The more common single holdback is rampant . Most double holdbacks show up as PG at the many PG schools up north. There the many mystical double holdback PG competes with the single holdback. Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349401 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Just saw a social media post about a former CHC player who was written up in IL as part of their Midnight Madness coverage. If I'm not mistaken, the kid is a two-time holdback and now a 2023. You are mistaken. He was ‘22. Not the mythical double holdback. There is only the occasional mythical double holdback in MIAA, But you do see them every once in awhile. The more common single holdback is rampant . Most double holdbacks show up as PG at the many PG schools up north. There the many mystical double holdback PG competes with the single holdback. They end up at Img, hill and the other pgs Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349403 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous All the holdbacks are the first to commit. So it works. Well yeah, they had an extra year to think about it. Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349410 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Just saw a social media post about a former CHC player who was written up in IL as part of their Midnight Madness coverage. If I'm not mistaken, the kid is a two-time holdback and now a 2023. You are mistaken. He was ‘22. Not the mythical double holdback. What is the birthdate? That’s the determining factor. Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks TM@BOTC #349415 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A For 2023 Born Before 9/1/04 = holdback Born before 9/1/03 = Double holdback It’s pretty straightforward. Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks TM@BOTC #349418 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Crickets Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks TM@BOTC #349425 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Glad to hear this is being addressed. It’s really a competition and safety issue. This is exactly what the sport needs. Thank you USL for finally listening! Like Reply Quote

Re: holdbacks Anonymous #349431 A Anonymous Unregistered Anonymous Unregistered A Originally Posted by Anonymous Glad to hear this is being addressed. It’s really a competition and safety issue. This is exactly what the sport needs. Thank you USL for finally listening! 🙄 Like Reply Quote

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