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Sadly 299 pages addressing "holdbacks" and 1 page discussing "double holdbacks". A refuse for hate, ridicule and frustration with "gaming the system". Locally grown? Hope it stays that way. I happen to like the notion. But with others importing from exotic far off lands such as "Texas" can Crabs be far behind?

There was one page about the Crabs of 5 years ago that actually went by age. Sadly those days are long gone and the Crabs are known by everyone in the lacrosse community as having tons of holdbacks . Go to any youth tournament they are in. Every opponent says the same thing. Those kids are heldback and huge. Pretty sad. And yes they do have some good teams, but without holdbacks they would be average.

Why don't you go look at FCA, Hawks, 91, Looneys and you will see an equal amount if not more. FCA and Hawks are now the holdback leaders on most all of their teams, 2022 and older. FCA is #1 in holdbacks with Hawks not far behind. You need to get out more and look around and see for yourself.

Whats that saying.." you reap what you sow" Crabs were the original King of holdbacks/prefirsts. For sure others have followed and may have the same or more prefirsts on certain teams.. But the Crabs will always be the King!! .

Says you the queen.

There all cheaters...hold backs take a spot from a kid thats doing it right. if your good play up never down.

It's grade based, Dad. You are an idiot. And why it was age-based, the kids were all grouped together in 18 month bands. Same thing as now, just more complaining.

DING!

A non-repeating 3rd grader would have knocked this sentence out of the park.
they are (or they're)
holdbacks or hold-backs if using as noun
you are (or you're)
take spots from kids that are doing it correctly

Crabs bringing kids in from out of state this year to help some of their struggling teams.

You can bash Crabs all you want, but the proof is in the pudding. This year's seniors have 19 players (3 of whom were rated 5-star players) committed to play lacrosse at the highest levels in academically rigorous universities. Recruiting is picking up apace for the juniors, of whom 2 are ranked 5-star players and 7 are verbally committed to great schools, with more to come. Simply put, playing for Crabs provides outstanding training and set my son up to be recruited by top D1 schools.

So what! Are you new to club lacrosse? This has been happening in club lacrosse from the very beginning .

Rated by Ty X who is on the Fat Crab's payroll. Let me guess your son is prefirst, reclassed, planning to do a PG year, etc. Right?

No, I believe you just described the path you have outlined for your underachieving kid.

Please name the "academically rigorous universities"

Crabs and Maryland go hand in hand with constantly allowing older players to compete against younger players than they are. But remember everyone...It is within the rules. LOL

Its online on every lacrosse site.

It would be easier to list which ones not on the list.
Here they are:

If a parent is willing to reclass their kid one and two times to get in a university that has their athletes take paper classes the Crabs is the team to play for...oh wait thats FCA...

How about Harvard, Yale, Brown, Penn, Duke, Georgetown, UVA, UNC, Hopkins, Naval Academy, Washington & Lee, the list goes on and on. (Haters gonna hate.)

UNC - right. http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/22/us/unc-report-academic-fraud/index.html

Ummmm, Washington and Lee is a Div 3 school.

And prefirsts and reclassed are gonna play younger players!

Great school. What's your point? The thread said great schools in general; the author just mentioned his had gone D1.

This is a youth lacrosse argument. So weak to bring up in HS or College discussion.

GET OVER IT... you're jealous because your son either:
1 - Didn't make Crabs or
2 - Didn't make the high school team he wanted
Instead of dealing in reality that maybe your son isn't as good as you think he is, you're blaming everyone else. By the time the boys reach high school the talent shows. This is why Freshman beat out seniors for playing time. They're more talented as a freshman than the senior. Has nothing to do with age or holding back; it's all about talent pure and simple.
Stop blaming everyone else and deal with reality, you're not doing your son any good by inflating flee expectations and blaming others. Take accountability and be honest with your son.
By the time they're in high school it's okay for them to realize some kids and better than others.

Got it Ryan..You want holdbacks and prefirsts for your teams.

Crabs and King Crab were early proponents of reclassing kids and getting the grade base prefirst league going. Just like Germany will never live down their past..Crabs will always be know as prefirts/reclass kings.

Crab's started what? The Gait brothers were 20 year old college freshman and already married when they started at Cuse in 87. The list is never ending of things you can incessantly complain about in life....meanwhile, the rich get richer, Cuse is still a powerhouse and more Crab's athletes commit to top D1 programs. What has your ignorant finger wagging gotten your kid.....yet another excuse to add to his pile of mediocrity?

Life is tough and it's not fair. Lead, follow or get the [lacrosse] out of the way.

Ok YOUTH lacrosse apologist for letting older children play against younger children. Yea those darn pesky 4th graders should lead, follow or quit complaining !

Your strawman about the college Gaits is hilarious.

How about Crabs, FCA, 91, etc. join NXT in following US Lacrosse youth age based classification? Nah - why mess with gravy train?

I guess the research conducted out of leased space at JHU for decades was inconclusive. The data on 9 year olds playing against 9 year olds became more clear as they were fundraising for the 50 million dollar field of dreams in Sparks, near the CEO's house. Amazing timing.

I don't know about all of the cliches, but at the end of the day, if you are worried about a one year age spread, you're probably more suited for rec., even though they have age spreads too, it will perhaps give your kid that chance to seem like the best one out there, or maybe not, and you can start complaining about the A's, B's, and C's. Have fun with it, but don't plan on taking it to seriously. If he ends up being really really good, you'll end up in the competitive club format for real one day, and will no longer be a holdback complainer, and will probably be a die hard Crab-er. We'll see you later, or maybe we won't.

Crab's started what? The Gait brothers were 20 year old college freshman and already married when they started at Cuse in 87. The list is never ending of things you can incessantly complain about in life....meanwhile, the rich get richer, Cuse is still a powerhouse and more Crab's athletes commit to top D1 programs. What has your ignorant finger wagging gotten your kid.....yet another excuse to add to his pile of mediocrity?

Life is tough and it's not fair. Lead, follow or get the [lacrosse] out of the way.[/quote]

Paul and Gary were not 20 and neither one was married when they enrolled at Syracuse in 1986. Idiot

No, the original post said top D1 schools.

Nope. You are just reading the sentence that you want to read. Use your reading comprehension skills for the whole paragraph, not just the last sentence.

No, as stated by someone else, you need to reread my original post--my son is going D1. The point is that playing for Crabs gets results, as our players are committed to play college lacrosse at excellent schools, whether they are D1 (which they predominately are) or D3. Check it out: https://crabslax.com/AlumniCrabs.aspx

The ones worried about a one year spread are you prefirst/reclass apologists. You cant have your son compete against the same age children in Youth lacrosse. Do you even think thru your apologist excuses,

Whats next..That it makes us complainers children stronger going against older children. LOL..Heard that one too. Yet you apologists cant even have your child play against children their own age.

Crabs until the club explosion a few years ago had two youth teams ..U13AA and U15AA . Great teams and on age. It was a VERY rare day that a first year U13 ( technically a U12) or First year U15 ( technically a U14) made either of these AA team. It was almost always the second year kids of U13,U15. Yet you new to the Crabs parents want to tell us that it makes no difference having an advantage of a year.
Now tell me again why you apologist parents children get an advantage the rest of us dont??

The ship has sailed! You are beating a dead horse. GET OVER IT! College coaches want to know when players are available to them and grade based teams provide the answer. All of the whining and complaining on this thread is not going to change this reality. When your child reaches high school, maybe you will give it a rest and move on.

Spoken like a true cheating Holdback parent... Loser. I'm sure you held them back because of the academic challenges the simpleton was having in school, or was it they socially couldn't handle it so they had to stay back, or was it your boy just couldn't keep up competitively on the field and play with his peers (Yeah, that sounds about right). Don't worry son you are GREAT just as long as you are playing with the little kids, and mommy and daddy will make sure of it. That's right that's real life. "If you can't compete just repeat." And Again, And Again. You'll get it son.