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Call it what you will.... I guess if everybody else does something it's "OK". Hence, we begin to understand the behavior.
The real point was all about playing for another travel team with your director present. fl$ Director present and cheering kids on when they should be playing for fl$ in a game that was going on at the same time. The club states that players can only play on one travel team. So, the organization has some explaining to do. Why would people want try out for a club where kids are not committed to the club? They play where they want when it's best for them. Tough to build a team like that. Probably why fl$ is weaker and weaker in the lower age groups.

Maybe just put the out-of-town boys from fl$ on the CSH town team. Sounds reasonable in your world.

Keep making up the rules as you go. How about the director's rule about no fl$ player can play for another club team. Answer that! So, if we see some fl$ players 'filling' in for an Express tourny where fl$ is not playing that's ok, right? Get the fl$ director to acknowledge that and you may actually have a leg to stand on, otherwise, just admit you are wrong!

That wouldn't be too much of a stretch, they already recruit kids from neighboring towns to play on the CSH PAL team. Anyone see a pattern here???

Well...we will see what happens when both teams are playing in the fl$ tournament. Lets see who plays for whom.

Yes , a TOTAL scam at the the 2019 tryout last fall!
I was told many kids playing were not even at the tryout!
Don't waste your money next fall

Why not?

Ward Melville is doing it at the Varsity level and they have a good chance at winning the State Championship! Their best player is from out of town.

What are you talking about? Wm kids all live in three village????

No they do not.

It's seems that fl$ is out recruiting for players in the 2017 age group ....

good for them.

85 youngsters @$125 per kid. hmmm, thats a lot of moola. FOR HOW MABNY SPOTS??????
I just saw them play and didn't recognize anyone, from last falls try out!!!

why? they already have 26 on the roster

Remember too if their older brother plays the younger one has to make also. Oh and if you are from Garden City or Manhasset. Lol building more then just athletes.

Not true! I know of instances on two different teams (2015 and 2017 where a twin brother made the team while the other did not. In one instance the one had played for another team for a couple years while the brother played for fl$. This year, the prior year fl$ kid was cut while the brother made it.

Nice job by CSH/fl$ Varsity for losing to Friends Academy. One team played like a team and wanted it more than the "team" full of individuals.

Sounds like at least one kid from Friends got cut from fl$!

What about the 'nice job' by the 9 fl$ boys on GC who just won another nassau title yesterday?

Don't be a hater. One year my older child made it and the younger didn't, the next year the younger made it and the older didn't. Oh and we are from Garden City or Manhasset.

Nice job. Nice job to the Express boys as well.

Why is there a push in GC to change what has worked so well? Their kids have played on club teams in the summer and the High School Team has had great success.

Why else? ...money!

And CONTROL. Don't know about GC, but many HS coaches are seeing their significance in the recruiting process greatly deminished. With less of a strangle hold on the kids future, they feel like they lose control of the kid. Especially, the non-starters, who make up 75-80% of the team. A good lax player being recruited by colleges who never sees the field on his HS team is going to be less concerned what his HS coach has to
say. The only time these kids get to play is on club. Now, if the coach controls the summer too he holds all the cards for your kids future as it relates to lax and college. Hence, he now knows the kids will do ANYTHING he says.

think the real number is 4/5......for 2014 and 2015

EXACTLY!!!

Add to it, the coaches who penalize the kids who don't do all their off season work outs, camps, etc.

boy's have to laugh ..a good high school coach will always put the best kids on the the field..... it's high school lacrosse not mid school any more..i feel most parents would rather have professional educator looking after their son than a group just looking out for the money side of the business......

move over club lacrosse for aau lacrosse .....
and we all know how legit that's is !!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe. maybe not. Some coaches may be poor talent evaluates, or they owe somebody, maybe they like brown nosers. Bottom line, I knew a kid who never got on the field in HS but due to club ball he had d1 schools all over him. He ened up choosing a d2, but you get the idea

Not sure what the other town/school programs are doing, but in GC the summer town teams coached by the school district coaches end at 8th grade (going into 9th). That would seem to limit the conflict of interest and any potential unfairness to a HS kid playing on another club team for the summer.

The conflicts of interest are out of control.

The conflicts of interest aren't a problem if you are part of MW and BJ inner circle. It's all about them and their self promotion. So glad we are done with this program. And by the way we won't fill out the "form letter" you sent us to promote your program for you. Do you really need to tell people what to write.

Why doesn't anybody ever complain about the conflicts of interest with the Express? I hear that St A's kids who don't play Express never see the field. That's as wrong as anything else in the club landscape. Yet the St A's coaches seem to be teflon when it comes to scrutiny.

You hear wrong....not true!The process is about control,money and lots of othet reasons. Good coaches should want there players to learn and grow as playerd,good coaching is imporyant and many players dont get that in the younger grades from middle school coaches alone.So families should be allowed to choose what option works for them.Especially if you are being asked to pay for something,what right does that svhool coach have to tell you where you can play and PAY in the summer??? Board of Ed should be reviewing that nonsense!!!

Sounds like the ESM situation. They tell their kids that they can't play elsewhere, but what are they really offering????

This is to upgrade the team, to bring it to another level. not playing well as a team

fl$ tournament past weekend- 4th grade championship was won by fl$. However, the "4th grade" fl$ team had many 5th graders on it. No debate here please- (2) 5th grade boys from same town with the same initials, and many more playing on "4th grade" fl$.

There were other issues as well, but whatever

isn't that cheating? well done fl$.....

Nice try to stir the pot but that would never happen with the fl$. Try again though - If nothing else it's amusing.

I was also wondering how many older kids were on the 6th grade fl$ team. Just saw some pictures of the boys (those don't look like 11/12 year olds). The jerseys did have last names on them; I guess they are on the team.

I'm not an fl$ parent and I know for fact those kids are in 6th grade. I coach some of them and yes some are real big.