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You are dreaming! Maybe they get 60. They don't even let the kids keep the pinnies. So dumb, did these bumpkins ever hear of marketing?

Their will be a decent number of kids since they combine their tryouts with their minicamps which is comprised of already existing team players. Thanks duke coach for reminding us about your tryout!

There were 105 kids total including the kids already on the team, so there were about 55 or 65 new kids max and that was for 4 grades.

I don't know anything about this dukes team but damn are they annoying!! They've been plastering there organization and this tryout minicamp whatever you want to call it all over botc for past few weeks.. hopefully theyve packed up and headed back to where they belong

DUKES can beat any of your LI a$$'s

Whoa big tough guy, when you play with a team of holdbacks you should win a$$

Classic AJ, afraid to play top Dukes team. All other top Express teams play, but AJ doesn't want to take the fear of another loss.

<yawn> cough-cough-Holdbacks-cough-cough

Dukes Nationals plays Long Island Express B Team and needs a bunch of Holdbacks to win. Shameful, very shameful.

I wouldn't be talking too much smack about AJ. Not only was he a great player, he is a good Coach. He is building something legit. Let's see what Dukes can do, besides your sh?t talking. Just another [lacrosse] in this site. Any good Coach, player has tasted defeat....part of the game A&&hole.

LOL.LOL.Sorry your son could not make Express. You should be happy that your son is on a solid B team like the Dukes!

Dukes showed up to play the best Express team, all were shocked to see a B Express team show. Sorry they took an beating.

At least that explains why you brought at least 4 holdbacks and 2 2022 from World series of lacrosse with you to play a 2023 team.

Even the guy wearing the black and white striped shirt couldn't believe the age difference

Way off base, if you weren't stuck in B tourneys all summer you would have seen the big kids playing for PT and FCA. All 2023 teams. Sorry you were playing Laxachussetts White all summer. Oh, it ok, you can still mislead all your friends and say your son is playing for the Express!

Hey man, we were home in 30 minutes - don't much care who is a 22 or 23 or how many were wearing WSYL gear, the kids were out gunned, but played hard. I will tell my friends that some sucker paid $2k a year to play on a national team that travels to play B teams.

Can someone summarize? Hard to follow what happened.

Dukes brought a bunch of holdbacks up to play Express B As you'd guess, the Holdbacks beat daddy ball.

My son's team played next. I caught 3/4 of it, but what I saw was a silly waste of time

dukes and Express have beef pretty funny. Whats even funnier is Express parents complaining about the Duke holdbacks I guess they forgot they have about 4 or 5. Not including the kid that plays on the 2022 then goes down to 2023 games real class act Express is.

Dukes brought several teams to play Express teams on Sunday at Cedar Creek Park in Seaford. Their supposed 2023 team played the Express' Haugen team (2nd team). Dukes team had several players that had recently participated in the WSYL, as was clear by some of the gear they were wearing. This years WSYL event was for 2022's, not 2023's. It was crystal clear for anyone that watched the game, that several of the boys that played for the Duke's were older. Regardless of whether they were holdbacks, reclassifications, etc., they were noticeably larger and more physically mature then the Express' team. The Dukes program has to have victories to market their program and concept, and if it means that they need to stack a team to do so, it's what will sell the program to the parents that are looking for that result. Unfortunately it is the state of youth lacrosse today, that victories are more important then the development of the players, and organizations that are competing for players and revenue will do what they have to accomplish their goal. At the end of the day, these were exhibition games played by young boys that probably spent their afternoon at the pool or beach, and gave it far less thought then most of the adults that spend their time on these threads.

Funny how Dukes showed up to play Express A but played Express B. Express B showed up to play Dukes 2023 but were Shocked to see Dukes 2023 team full of 2022/2021. I guess both were unhappy. Hahaha.

Ha Ha .....keep talking loud mouth. From the way you are talking, Your a disgrace to the sport, and probably never played competitive ball. All good teams lose more then once, it's all how about how to rally back...respectfully.
You will never get it

Pot meet kettle. Express does the same thing. That 3k/year is all about player development and nothing to do with lining MC's pockets. Lol!

Dukes are a joke. Not a team.. Holdbacks and grade up garbage.

1 WSYL player on DN 2023 and he's an 10/04 birthday so he'll be eligible next year too. Yes, definitely bigger faster stronger, just not older. Keep telling yourself that they are holdbacks if it makes you feel better, but please stop harassing the 12 year old boys during the game.

There are ZERO hold backs on 2023 Express Haugen, all of the boys are 11 & 12, can't speak for any other teams.

Pretty True assessment, by this poster! No real standouts at any position on Dukes, except for their goalie, he played very well. Just bigger, stronger, older. Congratulations you beat an age appropriate B team. I you played Haugen's team, you would have got your asses handed to you.

1 WSYL player on DN 2023 and he's an 10/04 birthday so he'll be eligible next year too. Yes, definitely bigger faster stronger, just not older. Keep telling yourself that they are holdbacks if it makes you feel better, but please stop harassing the 12 year old boys during the game.



HAHAHA You must be that fat Dukes parent that came waddling over to the stands to claim your son was only 12. Tell him to enjoy his size advantage because judging by the gene pool he's destined to be 5'7" 315 waddling around the crease

Throw all the cheap shots you want, won't erase the fact that PT got hammered in the finals, good luck next year.

10/2004 birthdate makes him a 2022 in NY. So yes, he is older than players on a NY team. 2023 in NY is Dec 2004-Nov 2005.

So who organized these games? I just see it as Apples and Oranges when you have a organization that is pulling kids from various clubs together a few times a year to play together vs. a club team whose kids all come from a similar geography and put their club team first and foremost. Why didn't express play their A team? Why did Express B offer to play this game knowing that the Duke's team is what it is. (Very good players from multiple regions consisting of a 2023 team with kids that would be 2022 had their parents elected to not start them in school a year later for whatever reasons). I see neither club benefiting from this. Maybe Duke's should go play True which seems to be following their model. Maybe Team 91 should put together a team with their various regional clubs. For Express being able to play a good team in their backyard I guess is a no brainer...not sure what Duke's gets out of it. What was the final score? Sounds like it wasn't competitive?

Now That's Funny!

Express does the same thing some balls calling out Dukes. You had at least one player for sure playing in WSYL and he played in the 2023 LI Laxfest bracket then played in the 2022 bracket, stop crying Express you got beat at your own cheating game. Your program does the same thing bring holdbacks and older kids to try and win a tourney so you can boost up tryout participation and numbers for more teams = more revenue for the owner. Got a taste of your own medicine sucks right.

Nobody on the Express team that played the Dukes yesterday is a holdback. They played a "B" team. That team isn't responsible for what some other team is accused of

"YESTERDAY" being the key word. You cannot say "express doesn't bring ringers in for the sole purpose of ensuring a win" otherwise you are a flat out lier!

That's what a well rounded team looks like... After the beating, you're left standing around looking stupid because you can't even figure out who did it to you. And yes both goalies are fantastic, unfortunately, only 2-3 shots were put on goal. Next time and your best team like the other age groups.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, not one player on the Express team played in WSYL, your an IDIOT!

So you admit you cheated. Thats all we wanted to hear.

Just like LIE 2022 bailed on playing in the 2016 NCAA Futures Championship. It was raining.......