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I'll bet you'd lose that bet, you [lacrosse]. Finally got a realistic parent who encouraged his/her daughter to do the right thing for her (emphasis on "for her") and you assume she would have preferred an Ivy.

THE SCHOLARSHIP MYTH LAX MAGAZINE

https://www.uslaxmagazine.com/colle...hip-myth-dont-be-fooled-by-the-full-ride

WOW GREAT ARTICLE
Only half of D1 schools are fully funded
The ratio of lax girls getting athletic money is 48-1
82% of D3 players get academic aid
The average D3 player gets 17K
The average D1 athletic offer is $14k (less)
The average D1 athletic award is 20%
There is way more money in academics

And what they also don't say is that early verbal's usually start at 20% and can go up once player proves themselves. So the full ride BS is just that BS.just like the article says

Thxs..great article!

Thanks for pointing out that 14 is less than 17.

Old news...we've already beat that horse for the last ten years...

Yes but there are Parents who still don't get it

Straw man argument. Funny....You seem to forget to add the academic money and the athletic award given to many lax players male or female. If your going to push your agenda please cite all the facts. Don't just cherry pick the facts you like.

Keep looking through those rose colored glasses. Rainbows, unicorns and full rides are everywhere!!

So thousands of girls play high school on Long Island each year and we are talking about 25 girls going to top 20 programs. Sounds about right

Your numbers are slightly off. Thousands of girls is an exaggeration the number is probably closers to 1500 which if you divide by 4 for each grade is really less than 400. The number of top 20 recruits is around 40 per year . 10% is a pretty good percentage

Missing the point Mr. DB. She didn't have the choice, because she wasn't a good enough player. So the line "Carry on bashing anyone that doesn't go to Maryland, UNC or an Ivy" was off-base and typical criticism of those whose kid can't cut it at that level of play. They encouraged their daughter to pick D3 over bottom of D1, a good choice very likely. Glad to hear it worked well for her. She would have preferred an Ivy, guaranteed, and mommy and daady wished she was good enough to play at one.

Thanks for just making stuff up , such a douchbag. Please tell us 1 parent who has come on this site and said their kid is getting a full ride .Your kid most likely sucks so you have to make up nonsense to make yourself feel better .

If your kid could get into Stanford, Notre Dame, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Princeton, Harvard, Yale, Cornell, Brown, Dartmouth, Penn, Duke, Navy, John's Hopkins, Georgetown, Army, Colgate, Davidson, Richmond, Lehigh, Berkeley, BC, William and Mary or other great academic institutions because they had talent at lacrosse AND worked hard in the classroom, would you think that was a good thing? What if your kid loved the sport and wanted a great education?? It isn't all about a full ride. It's about young women who have drive and passion, that work hard, learn teamwork and leadership, and go on to become well-rounded, well-educated leaders in our society. You can keep having disdain for others who are successful while they pass you and your kid by.

No doubt but I think the point is there are far more kids playing low level D1, D2 or D3 than at the institutions you list above. Realistic voices are scarce on this board. Seems there are more kids playing at LIU Brooklyn than at A+ schools listed above. If your daughter is, congratulations!

Again you have proved my point. When confronted with facts and/or alternatives to your agenda you resort to writing nonsense. You cherry picked some unsubstantiated facts and used them to help your agenda driven argument. Many girls/guys in D1 and D2 receive both academic and athletic awards that amount to more than the $17K you site as the average D3 award. D3 is a good choice for many players and $17K is a substantial amount. But you seem to want to degrade other players who are looking to play at D1 or D2 with cherry picked information. Have a great day

But the article and conversation is about the myth of a full athletic ride in lacrosse, not a partial with help from academics. You want to twist the meaning to suit your agenda, probably because you're one of the ones spouting the myth to begin with. Quite simply there are very few to no full athletic scholarships for mens or woman lacrosse. most athletic lacrosse scholarships are around the 20% or lower mark. if your kid then receives grants, loans or academic scholarships and you add them together then you are blessed, but to then say that your kid received a full athletic ride makes you a lier.

I'm sure the facts are accurate in this article but the fact remains that full 100% athletic scholarships for lacrosse do exist on the women's side. It is incredibly rare but they do exist. The statistic is probably something like 1 in 500 players but they do exist whether you want to believe it or not. Even this article uses words like "rare" and "unlikely" to describe the likelihood of getting one. For every rare case of a full athletic scholarship there are probably 100 players getting nothing.

Yup. First hand knowledge, let's define: full athletic rides exist, as do slapped together full rides scrounging cash from whatever means necessary to get there. For 99% of players headed off to play college, you are correct, it is not a full ride. People must think their kids are the top players in the country and are offended by the idea that someone else's kid got the offer that their kid never did. As I read all these posts from naysayers, it makes me feel better and better about the offers my kid received.

Fair, you are probably right for every 1 D1 full ride there are probably 100 D1 roster players getting zero

Time to get the college talk going. The season is right around the corner. What teams will improve from last year? Which will fall back? My predictions:

Teams on the rise: (At least relative to last year)

Northwestern (Top 6 team this year)
Duke (Should make the NCAAs?)
USC (Continues to improve)

Moving down:

Notre Dame (just not that good)
BC (If no Kent)
SB (3 second rule back to major foul. Big deal for them.)

It’s Maryland , UNC, Florida in that order then the rest .I agree NW will be better. USC I think takes a step back but coaches are very good . Stony Brook will be right in the mix , best coach in the game.

SB defense will take a step backward and not be as solid in years past. SB offense will make up the difference with 3 stud attackers - it will tough to contain all three. Florida always gets great players but the coaching stinks and they'll continue to stumble when it matters because of it. Maryland/UNC nothing surprising, they'll be amazing as always. How is Cuse looking this year? I saw Gait had them doing box lacrosse indoors over the winter.

Florida just never gets there. Won't again this year.

I'll take UNC and Maryland, you can have everybody else. I agree with comment above some teams just wont ever get to the top for a variety of reasons but big game coaching is definitely an issue at some schools where they should have won already.

JS can definitely coach in the big game but he is always playing on the edge of the rules. Some of the changes had him in mind. If he gets to the championship game his coaching wont lose them the game.

Such a shame. Good school. Top-notch athletes. Coach who does nothing with it. With those kids, you can roll a ball out and get coffee and they'll win most of their games for you. But on a rare game that they need coaching, they might as well leave at the half and catch an early flight.

Strong teams on the outside looking in:

Penn State
Syracuse
Penn


Final 8

Northwestern
Maryland
Florida
North Carolina
Stony Brook
Boston College
USC
Princeton

Final 4

Northwestrn
Maryland
Florida
North Carolina

I like your list. What's up with the Big Orange again? No excuse why him and his 50 player roster shouldn't be higher. Lots of disappointing years for them lately

Possibly not the correct thread but you all seem very knowledgeable. For D1, when an athlete receives an offer of say 20% or 30% athletic $, is that 20% off the entire cost or just tuition? For example, CollegeA is 50K a year in all (tuition, room, board, fees). For the sake of argument, tuition only is 25k. If you receive a 20% offer, is that 20% of 50K, or 20% of 25k (tuition only). Is it a standard thing or does it vary by school ? Any insight ?

Lacrosse is an "Equivalency" Sport. If The program is fully funded they will have 12 dollar equivalent scholarships. What that means is 12 x "the total cost to attend the university. Example: if the total coast to attend (tuition , room, board, books etc...) is $55,000 the coach would have 12 x $55,000 = $66,000 to divide up how they see fit.

So in reality the coach offers a dollar amount which can then be expressed as a percentage of the total cost to attend.

Athletic scholarships can not be combined with need based aid. They can however be combined with merit based "academic" aid/scholarship.

Schools are given 12.something Scholarships. They are full scholarships (soup to nuts). It is my understand if you get 50% scholarship for 60K school you get 30K. Unless there are other academic money you would pay the other half.

That is why Stony Brook has advantage for Suffolk girls. 50% scholarship with a girl living at home is a pretty good situation financially.

Others may correct me if I am wrong on this, but I am pretty sure that is how it works.

I think this Penn State team will surprise....

You are correct, I would be surprised if they don't tumble this year. Not the same without Lazo and were very overrated last year, had the golden seat handed to them for bracket seeding, and still were not close to getting it done. This year they will be much less competitive.

I would switch Syracuse and BC. Don't think BC makes it to final 8 especially if Kent doesn't play, unless they get a real easy draw.

Orange doesn't have a 50 player roster so check your fax. And most schools carry a roster of at least 40 so again check your facts

Orange has so many girls that some of them can't even suit up to sit on the bench. They sit in the stands.

They have 52 players on their current roster. Not a fax.....just fact.

BC building indoor facility that will be used for winter season as well. Suppose to be done by this fall. Great for players.

Syracuse 44 on current roster most other top teams carry 32-34.