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Posting DOB on the rosters like they did last year would demonstrate what a joke the grade based classification actually is - clearly that's why they stopped doing it. The Baltimore team's leading scorers are all reclassed. 10th and 11th graders pretending to be 9th graders. Life doesn't go by the birthday buddy system. Education has evolved, not yours apparently. High School is by grade, not by age. Are you going to carry your stupid argument to college, men's league, grandpa league, and retirement home shuffleboard? HS is by grade. But apologists like you never seem to respond to what he actually wrote. He is correct. The rising 9th grade Balt team could be a age wise 10th grade team. While the majority of the other teams are not able to do that. And the stopping of age by player is a clear indication that many dont want it to be known. If it is no big deal why do they leave that information off?? Baltimore is correct in playing as rising 9th graders and are within the rules. And if it was a few overage players, dont think many would say a word. But it seems like the entire Baltimore team is a year older than the teams the are playing,,,,,Well the rest of us get to remark about how we feel when there is that much a difference between teams when playing by grade. Wonder if Duke got their Freshman class and played any top HS senior team what would be said.. It is only 1 year difference...shouldnt matter. Well said, and I thought the same thing.....if everything is completely ok then why the change in the publication of the birthdays? Obviously there is shame involved when you are unable to compete on age, no matter how much name-calling and attempts to bully the rest of us the holdback parents do. Both of you should get your facts straight before posting. Kids who are both rising ninth and rising tenth graders are eligible to try out for the Command division for the UAAA team. This age group covers a two year span as does the Highlight division. As for the argument about why B Kelly was selected as coach of the year....it just might have something to do with the FACT that he's the head coach of a team that won the MIAA A championship this year. Stop hating. The Command Baltimore Team is correct in playing as rising 9th graders and 10th graders and are within the rules. And if it was a few overage players, dont think many would say a word. But it seems like the entire Baltimore team is a year older and would be rising 11th graders in most High Schools in country besides here in Baltimore MIAA land,,,,, and the team would have to play in Highlight Division not Command, ,,,,Well the rest of us get to remark about how we feel when there is that much a difference between teams when the UAAA plays by grade. Is that better for You
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Don't be clueless. Lacrosse is not special when it comes to holdbacks. It is just as prevalent in football and basketball, if not more.
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Posting DOB on the rosters like they did last year would demonstrate what a joke the grade based classification actually is - clearly that's why they stopped doing it. The Baltimore team's leading scorers are all reclassed. 10th and 11th graders pretending to be 9th graders. Life doesn't go by the birthday buddy system. Education has evolved, not yours apparently. High School is by grade, not by age. Are you going to carry your stupid argument to college, men's league, grandpa league, and retirement home shuffleboard? HS is by grade. But apologists like you never seem to respond to what he actually wrote. He is correct. The rising 9th grade Balt team could be a age wise 10th grade team. While the majority of the other teams are not able to do that. And the stopping of age by player is a clear indication that many dont want it to be known. If it is no big deal why do they leave that information off?? Baltimore is correct in playing as rising 9th graders and are within the rules. And if it was a few overage players, dont think many would say a word. But it seems like the entire Baltimore team is a year older than the teams the are playing,,,,,Well the rest of us get to remark about how we feel when there is that much a difference between teams when playing by grade. Wonder if Duke got their Freshman class and played any top HS senior team what would be said.. It is only 1 year difference...shouldnt matter. Well said, and I thought the same thing.....if everything is completely ok then why the change in the publication of the birthdays? Obviously there is shame involved when you are unable to compete on age, no matter how much name-calling and attempts to bully the rest of us the holdback parents do. Both of you should get your facts straight before posting. Kids who are both rising ninth and rising tenth graders are eligible to try out for the Command division for the UAAA team. This age group covers a two year span as does the Highlight division. As for the argument about why B Kelly was selected as coach of the year....it just might have something to do with the FACT that he's the head coach of a team that won the MIAA A championship this year. Stop hating. The Command Baltimore Team is correct in playing as rising 9th graders and 10th graders and are within the rules. And if it was a few overage players, dont think many would say a word. But it seems like the entire Baltimore team is a year older and would be rising 11th graders in most High Schools in country besides here in Baltimore MIAA land,,,,, and the team would have to play in Highlight Division not Command, ,,,,Well the rest of us get to remark about how we feel when there is that much a difference between teams when the UAAA plays by grade. Is that better for You What's very funny is that I just watched the replay of the UAAA Command final and one of their players was announced as a 2021 yet my 2020 son has played against him for several years now. Interesting that reclassing is happening in other places too!
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Posting DOB on the rosters like they did last year would demonstrate what a joke the grade based classification actually is - clearly that's why they stopped doing it. The Baltimore team's leading scorers are all reclassed. 10th and 11th graders pretending to be 9th graders. Life doesn't go by the birthday buddy system. Education has evolved, not yours apparently. High School is by grade, not by age. Are you going to carry your stupid argument to college, men's league, grandpa league, and retirement home shuffleboard? HS is by grade. But apologists like you never seem to respond to what he actually wrote. He is correct. The rising 9th grade Balt team could be a age wise 10th grade team. While the majority of the other teams are not able to do that. And the stopping of age by player is a clear indication that many dont want it to be known. If it is no big deal why do they leave that information off?? Baltimore is correct in playing as rising 9th graders and are within the rules. And if it was a few overage players, dont think many would say a word. But it seems like the entire Baltimore team is a year older than the teams the are playing,,,,,Well the rest of us get to remark about how we feel when there is that much a difference between teams when playing by grade. Wonder if Duke got their Freshman class and played any top HS senior team what would be said.. It is only 1 year difference...shouldnt matter. Well said, and I thought the same thing.....if everything is completely ok then why the change in the publication of the birthdays? Obviously there is shame involved when you are unable to compete on age, no matter how much name-calling and attempts to bully the rest of us the holdback parents do. Both of you should get your facts straight before posting. Kids who are both rising ninth and rising tenth graders are eligible to try out for the Command division for the UAAA team. This age group covers a two year span as does the Highlight division. As for the argument about why B Kelly was selected as coach of the year....it just might have something to do with the FACT that he's the head coach of a team that won the MIAA A championship this year. Stop hating. The Command Baltimore Team is correct in playing as rising 9th graders and 10th graders and are within the rules. And if it was a few overage players, dont think many would say a word. But it seems like the entire Baltimore team is a year older and would be rising 11th graders in most High Schools in country besides here in Baltimore MIAA land,,,,, and the team would have to play in Highlight Division not Command, ,,,,Well the rest of us get to remark about how we feel when there is that much a difference between teams when the UAAA plays by grade. Is that better for You What's very funny is that I just watched the replay of the UAAA Command final and one of their players was announced as a 2021 yet my 2020 son has played against him for several years now. Interesting that reclassing is happening in other places too! It was only a matter of time. Talking with people from different parts of the country about lacrosse ...One thing always seems to come up when teams travel to Baltimore to play in tournaments. The Baltimore holdbacks. Pretty sad .. More will be doing this.
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The number of Baltimore Command kids (MIAA - CH, Gilman, BL) that are reclassed and are driving before they even start the 10th grade is staggering. Let's see some birthdates of these rising sophomores....
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I know for sure....BL lefty, 5 goals in final....is 15!!
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Kid is reclassed too. Fake news
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Kid is reclassed too. Fake news if you are responding to the previous post, you are the fake news. No reclass, holdback, prefirst etc.
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OK Looney's dad - whatever you say. How about the Baltimore CH kids? Them too? The Gilman boys? All on age - of course they are....
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The DC pre-first / holdback scene is just as prevalent as Baltimore's among the private school kids.
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The DC pre-first / holdback scene is just as prevalent as Baltimore's among the private school kids. And Philly is getting into the act too. Yea Baltimore!!
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The DC pre-first / holdback scene is just as prevalent as Baltimore's among the private school kids. And Philly is getting into the act too. Yea Baltimore!! Hey dont leave us out in Mass!
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The DC pre-first / holdback scene is just as prevalent as Baltimore's among the private school kids. And Philly is getting into the act too. Yea Baltimore!! Hey dont leave us out in Mass! starting to spread like wildfire on Lawn Guyland, of course they will eventually be the best at it.
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The number of Baltimore Command kids (MIAA - CH, Gilman, BL) that are reclassed and are driving before they even start the 10th grade is staggering. Let's see some birthdates of these rising sophomores.... I ran the B/D's for last year's event for the Command division. Normal shaped bell curve with the median and mode occupying the August/Sept months (Pre-first kids). The Baltimore team was on average 2 months older, with the South team being the oldest. LI team was the youngest.
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I ran the B/D's for last year's event for the Command division. Normal shaped bell curve with the median and mode occupying the August/Sept months (Pre-first kids). The Baltimore team was on average 2 months older, with the South team being the oldest. LI team was the youngest. [/quote]
Ummmm, the median is the middle number in a set. So if all of the kids from Baltimore kids are born in August or Sept and if everyone that plays lacrosse from New [lacrosse] is born between July 15th and July 31st(everything I read talks about how much younger they all are) they would balance out and the rest of the lacrosse playing country would put the median somewhere in the February time frame.
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I ran the B/D's for last year's event for the Command division. Normal shaped bell curve with the median and mode occupying the August/Sept months (Pre-first kids). The Baltimore team was on average 2 months older, with the South team being the oldest. LI team was the youngest.
Ummmm, the median is the middle number in a set. So if all of the kids from Baltimore kids are born in August or Sept and if everyone that plays lacrosse from New [lacrosse] is born between July 15th and July 31st(everything I read talks about how much younger they all are) they would balance out and the rest of the lacrosse playing country would put the median somewhere in the February time frame. [/quote] LI kids were born mostly in the fall of 2000 and the winter of 2001. The Baltimore kids were dispersed evenly mostly before Oct 2000, ~12 Starting in Nov. 1999
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So post the DOBs of the 2020 kids that were on the team. A 2019 player should be born in 01. A 2020 in 02.
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[quote
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2019's
1 5/99
1 9/99
2 11/99
1 12/99
2 1/00
1 2/00
3 3/00
3 4/00
2 5/00
1 6/00
7 7/00
10 8/00
16 9/00
13 10/00
7 11/00
9 12/00
6 1/01
9 2/01
5 3/01
6 4/01
4 5/01
3 7/01
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1 4/01
1 7/01
3 8/01
2 9/01
3 11/01
1 12/01
1 2/02
2 4/02
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So post the DOBs of the 2020 kids that were on the team. A 2019 player should be born in 01. A 2020 in 02.
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1 5/99
1 9/99
2 11/99
1 12/99
2 1/00
1 2/00
3 3/00
3 4/00
2 5/00
1 6/00
7 7/00
10 8/00
16 9/00
13 10/00
7 11/00
9 12/00
6 1/01
9 2/01
5 3/01
6 4/01
4 5/01
3 7/01
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1 4/01
1 7/01
3 8/01
2 9/01
3 11/01
1 12/01
1 2/02
2 4/02
1/ 5/02 Let me know if I am wrong..But my interpretation is that . Out of 112 players that are 2019 last year,,,, 34 were heldback, prefirst, reclassed or whatever you want to call it .....Thats a bunch!! So 30% of players couldnt play if they went by USL age guidelines of Sept 1 or like most schools of a Sept 1 start for beginning of school . I know its HS so age doesnt matter but it looks like reclass works. Out of 15 players that are 2020 last year ,,, 5 were heldback, prefirst,reclassed or whatever you want to call it. Thats 33% of players ....... So basically around ONE THIRD of all players in Command last year were heldback!!!!! WOW!!!! And to add to that, around One third 33% of All players are born From Sept -Dec from both 2019 and 2020..So you have a good shot if you are on the older side for proper age of your grade. Being older works according to this. At least for UA .. Strong conclusions that if your son is born between May and Aug and you/he is interested in lacrosse...Might want to hold him back!
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[quote
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=Anonymous]So post the DOBs of the 2020 kids that were on the team. A 2019 player should be born in 01. A 2020 in 02. State law in MD, cut-off date for school enrollment is 9/1... Original Class of 2020 = September 1, 2001 - August 31, 2002.
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unfortunately NY decided December 1st was an appropriate cut off date. Yes it is an issue. At least the WSYL has exact dates you must meet. And congrats to Express for taking it all..
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I would think almost every team in the Command division was made up of mostly 15 and 16 year olds, and maybe even a few 17 year olds. These are high school grade based teams so the reclass argument doesn't really matter, nobody was breaking the rules unless you're already going into 11th or 12th grades and played down on a Command team. There were many kids who are going to private schools in both the Command division and the Highlight division who were identified by their new year of graduation.
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unfortunately NY decided December 1st was an appropriate cut off date. Yes it is an issue. At least the WSYL has exact dates you must meet. And congrats to Express for taking it all.. I actually think, lacrosse aside, that the 9/1 start date is good for kids academically as well.
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I would think almost every team in the Command division was made up of mostly 15 and 16 year olds, and maybe even a few 17 year olds. These are high school grade based teams so the reclass argument doesn't really matter, nobody was breaking the rules unless you're already going into 11th or 12th grades and played down on a Command team. There were many kids who are going to private schools in both the Command division and the Highlight division who were identified by their new year of graduation. You holdback apologists are hilarious.
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going to a new school next year, graduating in 2021, will still play 2020
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Good for you...and let me know how you handle the coach who comes up to you to talk to you about going to his school because he thinks you are of the appropriate grade....but oh no he has just committed a recruiting violation.
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I would think almost every team in the Command division was made up of mostly 15 and 16 year olds, and maybe even a few 17 year olds. These are high school grade based teams so the reclass argument doesn't really matter, nobody was breaking the rules unless you're already going into 11th or 12th grades and played down on a Command team. There were many kids who are going to private schools in both the Command division and the Highlight division who were identified by their new year of graduation. If true..pretty sad state of affairs for Lacrosse when you cant even field these HS teams with mainly age appropriate kids for their grade. I know its HS..but really..this many kids heldback on team?? SAD!!! This is why we are having an epidemic of players being held back prior to HS to play down. SAD!!!
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Plus I do not see my son's birthday month on the list and he was definitely there.
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Anyone have a details on the Hawks/Club Blue "Alliance" for high school? I don;t see anything on either Clubs' website.
are they forming a haws team in MoCo or are they just folding the CB kids into the existing Hawks teams?
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Hawks have tryouts in a few weeks, teams will be picked after that
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What about the amazing Spalding class of 2021?? The group people have said will win multiple MIAA championships couldn't make HOCO playoffs. Just wait until next year...spalding will go winless again and move to the B conference.
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What about the amazing Spalding class of 2021?? The group people have said will win multiple MIAA championships couldn't make HOCO playoffs. Just wait until next year...spalding will go winless again and move to the B conference. Next year will be their breakout year.. MIAA Championship or minimum runner up.. Just wait!!
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What about the amazing Spalding class of 2021?? The group people have said will win multiple MIAA championships couldn't make HOCO playoffs. Just wait until next year...spalding will go winless again and move to the B conference. Next year will be their breakout year.. MIAA Championship or minimum runner up.. Just wait!! "The coach is a MLL player!"
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Spaulding 2021 class has quality and quantity, neither hurts a program. Right? Phipps is a great person and a great coach. I don't understand the melodramatic hatred?
Sounds like St Mary's drama queens are upset no one wants to attend their narcasitic cult of a school.
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Spaulding 2021 class has quality and quantity, neither hurts a program. Right? Phipps is a great person and a great coach. I don't understand the melodramatic hatred?
Sounds like St Mary's drama queens are upset no one wants to attend their narcasitic cult of a school. "no one" Who is the drama queen?
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