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I am not sure how this whole scholarship thing works but from what I can understand here is what I think.

The 12.6 is based on tuition not the cost of college like football and basketball where the student/athlete gets the full cost of college (tuition, room and board and books) . So even if a lax player got a "full Ride" it would be full tuition.

So a school with a $40,000 tuition and is fully funded would have $504,000 to spend for the entire team per year (based on a 5 year average) so they can go over one year but they have to go under another year to keep the rolling 5 year average at 12.6 x Tuition.

The three types of money available to most students are academic, athletic and need based (besides the various scholarships available) you can combine athletic and academic or need based and academic but you can not combine need based with athletic money.

Depending on the school you can have anywhere from 60 to 90% of all students receiving some money (need or academic or both) and I know of many D1 lacrosse players getting "Full Rides" and what I always took that to mean is that when you add the athletic money and the academic money you get close to equal the amount of tuition. They still have room and board and books that could be around $15,000 depending on the school.

If a lax kid was getting a full cost of college scholarship then it would count almost 1 1/2 of the 12.6 not 1 of the 12.6

The academies are not scholarship by any stretch of the imagination, the cost of going to West Point or Annapolis is far greater then the monetary cost of a non academy.

I would not be shocked if some of my points area off but I think I have the gist of it correct, please correct if I misspoke

Stipend??? What school is giving athletes additional money above and beyond tuition, room and board, books which is a full scholarship ?
Giving money for anything other than the above is against NCAA rules. Unless the athletes are working a job for the athletic department they can not receive any money directly written to them for any reason. Money can never go from the school directly to any athlete

Also all athletic scholarships are not guaranteed academic are. Do the work

Finally someone who understands how it works! Coaches can find money in a variety of different places depending on each kids specific situation

The part about the stipend is true. My son has an athletic scholarship for a percentage of the total cost of the school. The total cost includes spending money, It's what they base the award on. Also, you are wrong about it not being guaranteed. My son's athletic scholarship is guaranteed for 4 years. This is in writing on his NLI.

Ok I will spell it out. I know for a fact that there are several women's players receiving Full ATHLETIC scholarships!

Again, no one can even name a school! I know a player who plays at a school who gets a full ride. What school? When I say too 100, there are Top 5 recruits in there. Again, not ONE got a full ride. These are players at UVA, PSU, and UNC. Not one of these players got close to a full ride. Closer to 30-40%

What part of this don't you understand? People aren't going to out kids that get full rides. And naming the school may make it easy to guess in many cases.

They do exist. Even if you don't want to believe it. Absolutely very rare. But for the right player at the right school it happens. In most cases, it's not the power schools that are giving them out. The ones i know were to schools more in the 10-25 ranking range.

Wrong, The ones I am referring are top 1-10 schools. I am not going to name schools or kids.I am just giving information that might be help someone with a kid who might warrant that type of scholarship. Coaches always start lower (why wouldn't they) . Most parents are afraid to push for more. If they really want you,money won't be an issue.

Okay, where? I can say I know the Easter Bunny and Santa! where do they go? You can put things in caps all you want, doesn't make it true! Need FACTS, I'm not calling you out, just have not seen anything that points to this anywhere.

Let's see you do it in reverse . Please tell us the name of a player that was a top ten recruit in the country and what school they are at that is giving them less than 75 percent the cost of attendance .

and how about you give your name and what your salary was last year? Why does everyone think other people's personal business should be broadcast on the internet?

Even if everyone agrees that yes, in fact there are some sort of full ride or close to it for a very select few.
Ok? now, the reality remains the same. its for very, very few . The yapping that know nothings attach to this concept is the silly part. just because they may exist it doesn't mean that because your child may be on a top lacrosse club and / or highly ranked school program you one of those chosen. The type who gets the most money is quite exceptional and its readily apparent when they are on even a weak squad.... gently saying you will be paying. More reality.... even many of the best players on top h.s. programs very often have an extremely difficult time getting playing time in college. that goes for D1, 2, or 3.

if you dare....ask around...

I already said I knew a player from PSU and OSU. Both received far less than 75 %. Both received in the range of 30% or less. Both top 10 players from Long Island. As was said not naming kids, looking for a school, cant even get that.

One kid from LI is getting 70% there and the top superstar 10th grader I heard 80%

So the second one you mentioned is the best offensive player in the country in his year, yes?

And he's only getting 80% to play for a so-so team, one that's only made the playoffs three times in its entire history. I imagine they guaranteed the money for all four years?

I bet K Miller is getting a full ride or close to it.

So the second one you mentioned is the best offensive player in the country in his year, yes?

And he's only getting 80% to play for a so-so team, one that's only made the playoffs three times in its entire history. I imagine they guaranteed the money for all four years?

One kid from LI is getting 70% there and the top superstar 10th grader I heard 80%

You heard! Exactly, no basis in fact. Third party statement. No one has proven a single fact to prove these huge sums of supposed money. Most won't even offer a school.

It sounds like the only proof that would be satisfactory for you would be the actual financial statement for the SA from the school - anything less than that is going to be a third party statement, unless the actual parent posts. Even then, this is an anonymous board, so how is that going to happen. You are essentially asking for the impossible in that regard. Even if someone were to post an SA's name and/or school, how can you validate that what they said is true or not. And, FTR, I think most if not all lax SAs are getting very little money relative to overall tuition costs - I am just pointing out your ridiculous standards for requested proof on an anonymous board.