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Blaze won 8-2

TA should be embarrassed with that showing. Well the last win trumps the head to head history I would think. Perhaps tryouts this year will be different and he should consider big game players.

Blaze deserves the right to brag at the moment. Wonder if they see each other again this year.

91 lost to crabs last week too and to DC Express twice the weekend before

Dc express beat crabs today for championship

This has been a longtime coming to TA. Maybe we lost the country club mentality and get back to our roots

I am sorry to say this but Ambush can and will beat express Schreiber, when they decide to get embarrassed. So called S.A.

Correct GC won out of 3..

Stay on your mid Atlantic board you 16 year old rising freshman. Pretty sure 91 and igloo will be at Naptown. Very sure both teams are looking forward to playing D.C. Express.

Sorry - just facts.

91 is 1-4 so far this june against crabs and DCE is what is

Since when is api diamondbacks, mesa orange, laxchussets, leading edge, outlaws select, 24/7 charlotte and thunder elite not considered AA or A or played AA bracket teams. All which Ambush have played or will play. And they have done well. Toughest being leading edge and they have split with them. Beat thunder elite and 24/7. LAXC lost by one last min. Blaze, Black ice, Crabs and DC Express are all in different stratosphere. But they can compete with any other so called double AA team.

I am starting to believe this is not an Ambush parent posting these baseless posts and just someone looking to start trouble for them. If it is an Ambush parent it is sad that so much attention is desired.

If you want to go with an AA, A, and B rating system, which makes sense to some degree considering the much smaller number of teams that fall into AA, they there are a whole lot of teams that are A that many of the elitist snobs refer to as B. The tourneys and brackets aren't denoted AA, A, and B, so you cannot use the tourneys as basis to 'rate' teams. If you go to a tournament that has AA teams, and you're an A team, you would likely play in a B bracket. If it's tourney with little or no AA teams, you probably play A bracket. Both are appropriate under the circumstances for an A team.

If you are a team that can play with any of those teams within a handful of goals, even if you can't win, wouldn't you also then be an A team, albeit just a weaker A Team?

If someone finds the need to come on here and convince people that a team is an A team it probably is not. You will know if your kid is on an A team when you stop feeling the need to report scores and tournament victories. Also if you put teams in that play close games against A teams then almost everyone will be an A team. If a team looses every game to an A team by two that team may be A but what about the team that loses to that team by 2 and so on. Also A teams jump out to a big leads them put subs in and trst starters. Or starters never really play against weaker teams. Sometimes a second goalie will play against weaker teams then the next game the starting goalie will play the entire game against a stronger team. This alters the scores and makes games closer. Teams play different against weaker teams. Close scores are helpful but you need to win a bunch too against A teams. The teams listed in the last post many are not even close to A. If a team is A people will know. You won't need to convince people here.

This isn't about convincing anyone about anything - it would help teams and tournaments in properly bringing in the right teams. It would also probably help the sport in many areas where it is obviously still suffering with respect to maturing and growing to what it could be, the same issues that afflicted many other organized youth sports in their infancy, sports that learned and made changes for their betterment. The above answer perpetuates the whole slanted idea that totally ignores the idea of distribution - If you go with AA, A, and B, then what you have is a two-tier system with AA being the a subset of A. Under a two tier system, even using a logistic distribution, the distribution would have more teams in A than are currently 'designated' as such. The real problem is that the people associated with the top don't want that club any bigger - to that end, they have essentially and effectively denoted it as one-tier system of AA and B.

Who gives a @#$%!! Why is A***** still being talked about!! Give it a rest already!! There are so many better teams to write about!

Wow, the Ambush parents were so relieved that Blaze beat Black Ice. We thought we would be off the boards for at least a few days. This is definitely not an Ambush parent that is posting this.

It's a ploy by the organization to create hype to get more kids to come to their tryouts. Most likely because no organization on LI really has a good second team, so they want to build one since others failed.

What bracket is Ambush playing in at the NLF Championship in a few weeks?

2021 A, Blaze is in AA and they won't put them in the same bracket.

Absolutely not a ploy by the organization! Last year in the 2022 the organization had two of the top teams in the country( Smash,United). What did they do? They combined them. Taking the best players from each team and put them on a "AA" team. Thereby dismantling United as the snubbed kids scattered. The second team is a big step down from previously.
It's definitely someone with an axe to grind which is ridiculous.

Ambush is only an A team, and wouldn't win the AA bracket. It is totally about the $$$. 9D1 can boast that they had two teams win their bracket by separating them. When United and Smash both made the championship in the same tournament, they wouldn't let them play each other. Same thing when Smash made the finals in the same bracket as Ambush. They didn't want to damage either team by having one beat the other. Ambush doesn't belong in the same bracket as Blaze. Last summer they didn't win the A bracket, which had a ridiculously good team from Canada win it.

DOnt want to beat a dead horse here, But they did beat Empire Green in Laxfest championship. Empire Green is in the AA bracket for NLF championship. This proofs the comments above. They did put them with double A teams in spring jam, as long as Blaze was not there.

2022 9D1 was unique and worked as long as smash was the "better" team. As soon as united beat smash a few times, the almighty smash couldn't accept it and the organization "combined" the teams and alienated quite a few of the players/parents.

If smash continued to be better in their minds than united this would have never happened.

So if ambush ever gets to the level of blaze, and God bless them honestly as long as the kids are playing and developing who cares, they will "combine the teams and alienate many of their customers.

Seriously, travel team tryouts used to be in September, then teams moved them August, which really cuts into vacation time. Now I see that tryouts are starting in mid July. Seriously, what the heck.

What teams are mid-July now? crazy.

2021 kids going into high school. Football and soccer start in August. This may be the reason.

Rising Sons, but my guess is they are going so early to test the water and see what shows up. They dropped their 2020 teams last year, not sure why they even think they can run a HS program. Maybe it isn't that great at NXT? Seems really odd to me

Mesa it looks like is starting their tryouts July 12 and Hs tryouts July 23rd. Maybe its good to go the same time to make sure people are around. Sticks will be sharper and don't get into fall sports. Smart idea?

Igloo is early, everyone is early stop starting trouble. Go back teaching.

Everyone is early? Name one other team that has tryouts in July. Come on, who are you kidding, clearly they are having tryouts early so they can see if they can even field a team. Guess what happened to the 2020 Rising Sons was a wake up call, good old TD doesn't want to screw half the team like last year. Or, maybe he doesn't want his gravy train to end.

Igloo is mid July, the same week as the Brine National Classic. Is that why no Igloo kids were at the tryouts?

A lot of teams are in July. It seems to be the new thing. True blue is in July also. Team 24 --July. We will see if this results in more player movement. This is the year that starts the trend that most kids will stay where they are and teams don't make that many changes. Too late for teams to change and will stick with paying customers who stuck with the team for years. Kids don't move either as it is hard to get a coach to think the new kid is as good as kids who have been with a program for years and relationships have developed with coaches and directors over the years. It is rare to find a kid who changed teams going into high school or after and was happy with the change. Maybe this July tryout trend will change things but I doubt it. It is probably too late to change teams and be better off at a new place unless things are so bad a change has to be made. So the early tryouts for this age and up will not result in many teams picking up new players.

The final weekend of July (28th and 29th) is hardly pushing the envelope - it might as well be considered the beginning of August, which is pretty much status quo for years past.

Where are the GC and Ambush parents today claiming to be A teams? Reality is setting in.

Can you find one quote the GC parents claim that their TOWN team is A teams, the only thing I have seen is them just simply saying they have beaten Ambush 2 out of the last three times they have played them. GC played in a tourney over the weekend lost their three first games by one goal to a team which was mostly Outlaws A team ( which was kinda of a fluke last goal score by GC in their own net) , to Two Way Lacrosse and a team from Canada. The next day they beat that same Canada in the semi's who was undefeated and then last in the finals again to the Two Way team. They are a town team coached by the a HS school coach to get them ready for their HS years, what is wrong with that. No there is now way they can beat Express, Igloo, Icon or 91 they have never said that, those four teams are the top four on the island, have I seen some posts saying they can compete with the next tier teams such as Ambush, Outlaws, Express teams such as North or B and teams like that as they have proven that. Again they are a TOWN teams which I think is great that they play together in ok tourney's they play with their friends hangout together and nothing wrong with that. So please don't put them in the same class of comments on how good or not they are like some of the crazy posts by Ambush people, maybe say that its pretty good that at least one town still does what they do.

Ambush knocked to a loser bracket early by a B team who did not make it to the finals in a B tournament and GC goes 1 win 4 loses blown out twice. Now we know why these teams play in B tournaments. Nothing wrong with that until those parents come on here bragging about wins and making up rankings placing both teams in the top 8. Maybe now they will keep quiet.

Not getting in an argument here over fake news but you know who to ask if that was "mostly" the Outlaws select team or not. Please get the correct information before posting. We will leave it at that.

Ambush parents don't post, and the former Ambush parent didn't have any info so they couldn't pose as an Ambush parent yet since they were out of town.

GC lost 3 games by one goal? They lost 6-5,8-1,5-2 and 6-1. One victory was 7-6. All four teams made the playoffs. They went 1-4. Who knows if this is good, bad or competing but we should be able to agree that only one loss was by one goal not 3 loses by one goal.

Who made you the keeper of the brackets? Young Guns is not a B tournament by any means. There was good competition down there, and the games were all hard fought in really hot weather. Ambush doesn't have any holdbacks, and several of their kids are September or later birthdays. That really hurt them in the games they lost to the same team, as the kids were much bigger.

GC never has come on this board saying that they are an A team.

People complain about the two teams coming on hear and bragging, but it is the haters that always start the trouble..

What team does your kid play for?