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First if you saw who the poster was talking about you would be very skeptical of what club the poster is affiliated with. Further it was one of your own who insisted on talking about PM on this very thread.

That's great. Thanks. Ok to talk about TG on this TG thread yet or do we need to talk about Pete and the gang more. Let us know ok.

Sure let's talk about your TG coaches so far what I know about them is one of them got too drunk to walk in front of his young team , a couple others have threatened to fight each other in front of their young players, your club leader can no longer coach teams that have kids of recruiting age, as predicted before it happened only the special players actually choose what age to play at.None of your coaches have ever coached a TG team to win a significant tournament.Let's keep talking about your TG s ,it's so much fun.

I don’t know how much of this stuff about the coaches is true, but I would hope that a background check that includes a drug test is conducted for all coaches each year. You don’t know if the person coaching your child has a history of violence, is a drug addict or alcoholic. I’m not judging anybody, because these are terrible disorders that I have dealt with in my own family, but if you have an addiction, you should address it and not bring it to the playing field. Our children need to be playing in a safe and healthy environment. A background check that includes CPS records, criminal records and rehab stays should be done and the parents should be made aware if there are any issues. At that point, they should decide if the coach stays or goes. If what you said about a coach being drunk in front of the team is true, he should have been arrested and not allowed to coach at any level. The same goes for any coaches that show up high or act violently.

I don’t know how much of this stuff about the coaches is true, but I would hope that a background check that includes a drug test is conducted for all coaches each year. You don’t know if the person coaching your child has a history of violence, is a drug addict or alcoholic. I’m not judging anybody, because these are terrible disorders that I have dealt with in my own family, but if you have an addiction, you should address it and not bring it to the playing field. Our children need to be playing in a safe and healthy environment. A background check that includes CPS records, criminal records and rehab stays should be done and the parents should be made aware if there are any issues. At that point, they should decide if the coach stays or goes. If what you said about a coach being drunk in front of the team is true, he should have been arrested and not allowed to coach at any level. The same goes for any coaches that show up high or act violently.

And people who accuse hard working outstanding people of acts or behavior without proof or merit should be arrested and prosecuted. As you know the accusation, whether true or not is as damning in today's society. I CALL FOR BOTC TO CONTACT THE POSTER OF THE ORIGINAL COMMENT AND DEMAND PROOF OF THE COACHES SOBRIETY AND OFFER AN APOLOGY IF NONE IS GIVEN.

You're nuts. I'm sure they do a background check (they do them at rec league level), drug test probably not. It's not like coaches are making a fortune leading club teams, probably would walk rather than submit to a drug test.....I'd walk and I'm clean. Second, parents should never be allowed to decide whether a coach stays or goes. They only get to decide whether their kid stays or gos. Third, arrested for being drunk in front of the team? Bad choice...yes, should be fired....yes, arrested...on what charge?

Your right, arresting the person is a bit much, my bad. My comments were not directed toward any individual or club and I didn’t mean to offend anyone. My apologies.

This drunken coach in front of kids thing has been going on and on, on this site, but it is time to put it into context. The way people are portraying this thing is he was coaching and interacting with his team while drunk. Here is what I know; the incident people are talking about happened at the NCAA championship. I had interacted with this person several times each day of the two days that NU were playing their way to another championship and saw nothing to raise an eyebrow. I did not go back to the tailgating party after the team had won the game so I will not comment on that, but obviously many, many people were celebrating the championship and the MVP award and so on. Were some of the players on his team also present at the tournament and celebrations? Most likely, but you make it sound like he was at a summer tournament drunk on the sideline yelling at his players. If you are going to arrest him for being drunk in front of kids he was not responsible for at the time you are out of your mind, you would have to start arresting many parents as well (from many different clubs).

They may be exaggerating but so are you ,in my opinion when someone falls down and clearly is struggling to get up before the semifinal north western game and you have seen them drinking they probably drank too much.That being said it is up to the individual parents to determine if this type behavior warrants them removing their chills from the club, personally it is probably nothing worse than most of us did when we were in college.The main problem I would have with his coaching is experience, once again I personally would prefer a coach with at least some experience with girls lacrosse.

He may have needed to be shoveled into a car by the of the night for all I know, but I had several conversations with him during the tailgate party prior to game and ended up watching 10 or 15 minutes of game with him as he was standing in the endzone walkway. I can vouch for him only for the times I saw him, and I didn't see him passed out as you claim. As for his cooaching ability, my daughter does not play on his team, but I know the team is extremely strong and does very well. But you can't judge coaching ability by that as you know, it may be more of a reflection of the high quality of players put together. This whole argument is silly knocking of yj vs tg coaches, know that nobody is perfect once you start digging.

Sadly we will have the same trashy uniforms as years past. At least 5 different parents that I know of have suggested reasonable vendors to Bill- it's bad enough they play in cheap pinnies, at least get the girls real lacrosse shorts!

And we can hire a hairstylist, manicurist and fashion accessorizor to get them ready before games...lol. Who cares!

And we can hire a hairstylist, manicurist and fashion accessorizor to get them ready before games...lol. Who cares!

And we can hire a hairstylist, manicurist and fashion accessorizor to get them ready before games...lol. Who cares!

You could always join YJ and get a nice unifiorm over there. Maybe if your lucky you can watch PM spit in his water bottle. Or better yet if your from Mt Sinai or related to him you can play on one of his teams.

You could always join YJ and get a nice unifiorm over there. Maybe if your lucky you can watch PM spit in his water bottle. Or better yet if your from Mt Sinai or related to him you can play on one of his teams.

Or you can stay with TG and have your kid coached by some college kid who has no idea what they are doing.The good news when your kid reaches recruiting age the best coach in your organization will not be allowed to have anything to do with your daughter due to NCAA restrictions .Or maybe your TG coaches can threaten each other with violence in front of your young daughter like they did when playing my daughters team, class act all the way .By the way PM actually has a proven history of being a successful coach unlike any coach in your YJ wannabe organization, but keep bringing up his name because you have zero championships to talk about.

Play a new song dude....jeez

Which song,the violence, the poor coaching,, the ncaa restrictions,or the defending PM when one of your moronic club members decide to go after him and bring his name up for no reason on a TG thread.The guy has spent countless uncompensated time training kids for nothing more than the fact that he likes to help kids yet people on your club feel the need to try to bring him down.

My mom always told me " if you have nothing nice to say then dont say anything". You should all listen to my mom. My mom also said that" most people dont know what they are talking about 90% of the time". Again I think my mom was 100% right about that regarding the "dopes" on this thread. Sorry mom for using a bad word. Happy Holidays !!!!

Maybe your mother should have taken her own advice and been quiet.

Ok president of the PM fan club. We get your position on the matter. Move along. You have your own issues over on your YJ thread.

This forum has replaced going to school board meetings on budget vote night as the cheapest entertainment in town!

Heres my 12 days of Xmas for this thread..........

On the 1st day of Xmas ......... Who cares who PM is and what you think of him!

On the 2nd day of Xmas ..........If you think a coach is a drunk take her elsewhere TG isnt the only game in town....Stop telling us about it.

On the 3rd day of Xmas ..........Who cares what the uniforms look like .....i asked my two kids that play TG and they said " I dont care what we wear."

On the 4th day of Xmas ........Get it right SS can coach @ recruiting age she just cant talk to them about Hofstra......Look it up!

On the 5th day of Xmas........Who cares what YJ team beat up on a TG team in winter ball!

On the 6th day of Xmas.......If you think your kids better than my kid keep it to yourself. Stop living through little suzy. Nobody cares!!

On the 7th day of Xmas.......why do YJ hate TG so much and vise versa????

On the 8th day of Xmas .......Why do we have to read about little 10& 11 year old girls dominating each other .....who cares....oh yea mommy and daddy do!

On the 9th day of Xmas.......We should all start worrying about Skywalkers and M&D. They pose more of a threat to TG & YJ

On the 10th day of Xmas.......Maybe the kids can figure it out on the field if the programs stopped avoiding each other all summer.

On the 11th day of Xmas.......Why do TG post about YJ on this thread?

On the 12th day of Xmas ........Why do YJ post on this thread at all??.......

This forum has replaced going to school board meetings on budget vote night as the cheapest entertainment in town!

Heres my 12 days of Xmas for this thread..........

On the 1st day of Xmas ......... Who cares who PM is and what you think of him!

On the 2nd day of Xmas ..........If you think a coach is a drunk take her elsewhere TG isnt the only game in town....Stop telling us about it.

On the 3rd day of Xmas ..........Who cares what the uniforms look like .....i asked my two kids that play TG and they said " I dont care what we wear."

On the 4th day of Xmas ........Get it right SS can coach @ recruiting age she just cant talk to them about Hofstra......Look it up!

On the 5th day of Xmas........Who cares what YJ team beat up on a TG team in winter ball!

On the 6th day of Xmas.......If you think your kids better than my kid keep it to yourself. Stop living through little suzy. Nobody cares!!

On the 7th day of Xmas.......why do YJ hate TG so much and vise versa????

On the 8th day of Xmas .......Why do we have to read about little 10& 11 year old girls dominating each other .....who cares....oh yea mommy and daddy do!

On the 9th day of Xmas.......We should all start worrying about Skywalkers and M&D. They pose more of a threat to TG & YJ

On the 10th day of Xmas.......Maybe the kids can figure it out on the field if the programs stopped avoiding each other all summer.

On the 11th day of Xmas.......Why do TG post about YJ on this thread?

On the 12th day of Xmas ........Why do YJ post on this thread at all??.......

Very True, but I think a lot of people coach for the same reason. Wait until he takes over the 2019 Carow team. I hear they will be unbeatable.