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The helmets are approved for use. Its not mandated yet in NY State. I think it is left to the discretion of each section or School at this time.

What town do you live in? What type of awards are these athletes receiving? It doesn't appear as though any of the teams would be very competitive if the girls only play the sport in-season. In our town, the best volleyball, basketball, and soccer players are playing year round and they travel as much if not more than the best lacrosse players.

Maybe HS sports have passed me by. Maybe now they are simply about everyone having a chance to play and be a part of the team. Now that I think about it I guess that is why High School sports now play second fiddle to the club teams. AAU Basketball, Travel Soccer, Club Volleyball, Travel Lacrosse etc... are all much more competitive than their HS counterparts. College Coaches do just about all of their recruiting on the AAU/Travel Circuit because that is where the top talent is.

The next thing you know they will stop keeping score at HS sporting events. Maybe they should take away the Cages, Baskets, Nets, Goals, Finish lines ect... Just have one big play date and let all of the girls participate. While we are at it lets get rid of the AP and Honors Classes as well and give everybody a C.

By the way, Who do you want this so called Ball Hog to pass the ball to? Oh thats right, your daughter. Why is that? Oh yeah, so she can be the one to score the goal.

The helmets are approved for use. Its not mandated yet in NY State. I think it is left to the discretion of each section or School at this time.

The only player allowed to wear a helmet on a girls Lacrosse field is the goalie. Soft head gear has been approved by USlacrosse for many years it is optional. the only State making it mandatory is Florida for HS girls lacrosse.

Oh lord, are we still doing this top ranked D1 lacrosse thing?
Just in case you didn't notice there are no big offers to play at the professional level either. So why get crazy over this stuff?
After 4 years of D1 level of play only the player will care where they played.

Do you mean that the only player "required" to wear a helmet is the goalie?
Or are you saying that field players can not wear helmets even if they wanted to?

Correct. Sore head gear is a field players only option. I am a Girls official it is cut and dry, no gray area. Also the only player with a helmet happens to be the most concussed player in women's lacrosse. Helmets do not prevent concussions .

Thank you very much, any idea where it states that in writing? I agree with a previous poster, would not want to play opponents with helmets

Thank you very much, any idea where it states that in writing? I agree with a previous poster, would not want to play opponents with helmets

Then move to the progressive foul system throwing out hackers after 3,4,5 fouls like basketball. Ref your thoughts? Seems many are afraid to go to yellows and reds. The progressive system gets them out without the cards

Levittown is purchasing helmets for all of their girls teams.

I believe you are using the wrong term for what they are purchasing. Helmets are illegal for field players for women's lacrosse period end of story. If they are purchasing soft headgear and they choose to wear it so be it but by no means is it mandatory to wear it and I know my daughter would never wear it if she played for that school district. Soft headgear should be a personal choice not forced on the athletes.

The safety calls aren't being made frequently or consistently enough (at least on LI) which has coaches and kids pushing the envelope and its really becoming dangerous. It doesn't help that the LI club scene silently condones the rough play all summer. If we don't go to progressive fouls or stricter officiating HELMETS ARE COMING.

The safety calls aren't being made frequently or consistently enough (at least on LI) which has coaches and kids pushing the envelope and its really becoming dangerous. It doesn't help that the LI club scene silently condones the rough play all summer. If we don't go to progressive fouls or stricter officiating HELMETS ARE COMING.

No I was told by a school official they are purchasing the cascade helmets.

Ok... so how will helmets help. You just confirmed the point that officiating is terrible...so how will helmets change that. In fact helmets will make bad officiating worse since hits to head will now be called less frequently and offensive players will use helmets to their advantage. Bad idea...bad policy.

No I was told by a school official they are purchasing the cascade helmets.

Cascade rounds up all the HS Superintendents on Long island and says "make the game safer buy our head gear" Sups all they hear is oh it will make game safer...Big Money Grab for Cascade with the disclaimer by them that it does not prevent concussions. Total Scam
Then it will trickle down to all the club teams: more $$ for them
Soccer players, where there are so many more instances of concussions dont have to wear head gear! Crazy

If Levittown attempts to field a girls team wearing helmets the game will not be played until they are removed. Helmets are illegal in woman's lacrosse. Only the goalie is permitted to wear a helmet. Soft head gear or goggles are the only thing the girls are permitted to wear.Here is what is on US Lacrosse web site.
Women's Lacrosse Headgear FAQs
Points of Emphasis
The use of headgear is optional in girls' and women's lacrosse.
Any headgear used after January 1, 2017 must meet the ASTM standard, F3137.
The ASTM standard, F3137, is a performance standard, not a design standard.
Product designs will likely vary from one manufacturer to another.
Products must provide full coverage of the head.
Products must be worn with required ASTM women’s lacrosse eyewear.
There must be marking on both the packaging and product that states that the headgear conforms to ASTM standard F3137.
What does the standard mean?
The ASTM standard is the first-ever performance standard for women’s lacrosse headgear, developed to help reduce impact forces associated with stick and ball contact in women’s lacrosse.
Will the new headgear prevent concussions?
The headgear standard was developed to decrease ball- and stick-to-head impact force. No headgear or helmet in any sport has been proven to prevent concussions.
Is the use of headgear required?
No. Headgear remains optional in the US Lacrosse Youth Rule Book and in the USL/NFHS Rule Book.
When will this headgear be available?
Headgear products have begun to be available in the marketplace, as of September 2016. US Lacrosse has created an online listing for headgear models that have submitted a passing report in compliance with ASTM standard F3137.
Will the new headgear be soft?
ASTM standard F3137 is not a soft headgear standard and the standard itself makes no mention of the word "soft." However, the testing protocol does require that the product meets a certain flexibility to insure that players who are wearing the product do not injure those who are not.
How much will the new headgear products cost?
Products vary in cost and design. Please contact the headgear manufacturers for more information.
What will the headgear look like?
The ASTM standard requires the headgear to fully cover the head, thus precluding the use of head band type products currently used by some players. All headgear must be worn with required eyewear, and some headgear models have integrated eyewear. The standard has two options, allowing manufacturers to make their headgear with eyewear implemented or a product that is compatible with various eyewear products currently on the market.
For further inquiries, please contact Caitlin Kelley, Women's Game Senior Manager at US Lacrosse, at ckelley@uslacrosse.org.

Its the stick swinging not the concussions. Everyone gasps a few times a game watching some girl get whacked. Happens every game. People are scared of the lawsuits. This is the nanny state protestors want.

The Cascade helmet is "soft" in that it has some flex. US Lacrosse does not govern or have any authority over High School athletics.

Then do not call it a helmet it is called soft head gear. a helmet implies what a goalie is wearing there is a big difference between the two. US Lacrosse writes the rules that NYS adopts for HS Sports. Every official goes by the US Lacrosse rule book period. NYS has not mandated soft head gear for HS Girls Lacrosse for 2017.

Let's rephrase this.......

Any and all teams who do not wear helmets HARD OR SOFT, should refuse to play teams who are wearing helmets HARD OR SOFT. No way in [lacrosse] would I step on the field to play against them, and it's not right that a coach or AD makes that descision for my daughter. I don't have a problem with the idea of girls wearing helmets HARD OR SOFT, but it has to be all the girls from both teams wearing them or nobody wears them. It puts extreme risk on the girls and is a lawsuit waiting to happen. If my daughter gets put in that position and gets hurt, I will Certainly be looking into the lawsuit.

"looking into a lawsuit" its people like you that are forcing helmets what a tool

"looking into a lawsuit" its people like you that are forcing helmets what a tool

You would be the tool to let your daughter play against the team that showed up all wearing helmets.

You would be the tool to let your daughter play against the team that showed up all wearing helmets.