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Do they play lax in New England?

A decent club?? who do you think you are. These girls are committed to top D1 schools. Northwestern,Notre Dame,Boston College,Princeton,Stanford to name a few. They have some of the best players in the country and the Under Armour tournament is proof of this.

A decent club?? who do you think you are. These girls are committed to top D1 schools. Northwestern,Notre Dame,Boston College,Princeton,Stanford to name a few. They have some of the best players in the country and the Under Armour tournament is proof of this.

You are spot on BUT, two qualifiers:

1. Ivies offer no merit scholarships.
2. Ivies offer no athletic scholarships.

So, there really is no one correct answer. Depends on the parents finances, the kids academics, and the kids athletic ability as to which schools are more affordable. But you are right, meeting 100% of financial need, as the Ivies do, might make a huge difference in the costs depending on one's finances.

how far do the girls drive to get to practice? from what I understand its basically a regional, multi state organization and you still have never put a trophy on the mantle. but some solid wins so be happy about it. just don't expect people to be overly impressed because you have a fraction of the D1 commits of YJ or M&D and a handful of others who, by the way, have won dozens of tournaments each.

I think this poster said their kid was NOT on Mass Elite but that his/her daughter played w some of the girls at Under Armour. So I think this was a very reasonable, unaffiliated opinion. Some of those commits you refer to had offers from North Carolina and other places you might deem to be quite good lax schools. They chose other places. Different choices for different families, and no "right" answer. Just to clarify, Mass Elite generally draws from south and west of Boston, including Rhode Island. Providence is only about 35-40 minutes from where ME practices. They get the occasional players from the north side of Boston, but the traffic can be tough for practice. So probably a bit more "regional" than clubs in other areas, but not crazily so. The 2019 ME team happens to be a very strong class for the program. Where most grades at Mass Elite are good but in the second tier of clubs behind the YJs etc, I think it is fair to put the 2019s in the top tier category. They can generally play with anyone and if they were to shorten their bench like some clubs do, I would guess can beat anybody on any given day. Not that lists are the end all be all, but two of the players are on the top 20 sophomore Young Guns IL list and that doesn't include the girl that was the overall MVP at UA, someone who probably could/should be on there. Not looking to get in an argument, just saw these posts on here and wanted to put some perspective around it. For the record, my daughter plays for Mass Elite, but bounces between our "A" and "B" teams. The age group all practices together and tournament rosters are set for each tournament separately. Unlike other programs where the teams are set for the season. Girls get moved up and down throughout the year depending on who signs up for a tournament and how they have been progressing. So I know these girls and families pretty well. They are a good group. Sometimes frustratingly so

Sounds fair enough, I would not use UA as a benchmark for how good the mass elite 2019 team is but again a very solid team from what I have seen. Would I put them in top 5 , no but definitely knocking on the door.

I would. But to each their own. How many times have you seen them play? Can't imagine very often. And for sure you haven't seen them shorten their bench, because they never do. So it's a hypothetical argument anyway, and one that doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things anyway.

I would. But to each their own. How many times have you seen them play? Can't imagine very often. And for sure you haven't seen them shorten their bench, because they never do. So it's a hypothetical argument anyway, and one that doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things anyway.

top 5:M&D, YJ, SW, Capital and Heros in no particular order TG,ME,Liberty,TLC and Steps next 5 in no particular order.

Most fields overlook the river and being on the grounds and seeing the young people who are making a such an important commitment will fill you with pride, especially in such a dark time politically.

It's a good school. LOTS of good schools in the country. Cool your jets Halsey. 'murica!

YJ 2019 announced commitment to Hofstra yesterday and the sun still came up this morning. Shocking! (For those who are slow, please note the sarcasm before responding.)

shut it yah liberal panty waste. nothing wrong with patriotism.

I love that our club doesn't announce, publicize or in anyway promote the commitments of the girls in our program. And before the trolling starts, there are a lot of them. Usually between 20-30 D1 and similar amounts of D2/D3. There is nothing posted about them until their freshman years in college, when you can see where the club alumni went. Lead with developing strong, talented young women and the rest follows. It actually isn't all about the rat race to early commitments. Would love to see others follow that lead.

what club is this? you must be joking, no announcement, please document this absurd claim..

Fact. Not an absurd claim. There are no commitments on their website. The club makes no announcements or congratulations on social media etc.

Fact. Not an absurd claim. There are no commitments on their website. The club makes no announcements or congratulations on social media etc.

If you are so proud why all the cloak and dagger about the club name?

Relax Halsey! You have no idea who you're talking to. I am a PROUD military vet and patriotic. Just because I do not buy-in to the hype of the romanticism of a service academy does not make me unpatriotic. It just means that I am a grown-up and have preferences and opinions. And, conversely, being all up in the rear end of a service academy does not make you patriotic. I have a personal friend and co-worker who is a former Navy officer but (probably shockingly to you) he did not attend the Naval Academy. He got a GREAT education at Notre Dame, joined ROTC, attended OCS, and was commissioned as an officer. Arguably at a better academic institution. So, again...relax. 'murica!

I love that our club doesn't announce, publicize or in anyway promote the commitments of the girls in our program. And before the trolling starts, there are a lot of them. Usually between 20-30 D1 and similar amounts of D2/D3. There is nothing posted about them until their freshman years in college, when you can see where the club alumni went. Lead with developing strong, talented young women and the rest follows. It actually isn't all about the rat race to early commitments. Would love to see others follow that lead.

Trying to figure out what club you are talking about. You just described 40-60 commitments in your description "Usually between 20-30 D1 and similar amounts of D2/D3. " . The top clubs with recruiting are M&D and YJ and they only have between 40-50 commits per age group. This must be some super secret club that puts all the other clubs recruits to shame.

Relax Halsey! You have no idea who you're talking to. I am a PROUD military vet and patriotic. Just because I do not buy-in to the hype of the romanticism of a service academy does not make me unpatriotic. It just means that I am a grown-up and have preferences and opinions. And, conversely, being all up in the rear end of a service academy does not make you patriotic. I have a personal friend and co-worker who is a former Navy officer but (probably shockingly to you) he did not attend the Naval Academy. He got a GREAT education at Notre Dame, joined ROTC, attended OCS, and was commissioned as an officer. Arguably at a better academic institution. So, again...relax. 'murica!

Somebody has an ax to grind!

No axe to grind. I'm just amazed that so many people seem to think that since a kid goes to a military academy they must be a top-notch kid. Uber patriotic, straight A's, perfect SAT, ma'am and sir BEFORE they went to the academy, never curse, etc. Nothing could be further from the truth for most of them. They're just regular kids who have chosen to attend a military academy to get a good education and (hopefully) become good military officers one day, and possibly parlay that into a successful career outside of the military. Not all who graduate become good officers, and some enlisted (and some other officers) actually prefer an officer who did not attend an academy. This isn't the 40's or 50's with John Wayne and Gene Autry. From a lacrosse perspective, they're an okay team that plays a weak schedule. So, no axe to grind...just educating the public.

Nobody held them up as paragons of virtue. However, in a day and age when most of the country (especially the youth) are entitled and narcissistic and when such a small percentage of the population chooses to serve, I think you would be better off selecting other targets than kids who choose to attend our nation's service academies.

You do come off as sort of a sourpuss and perhaps even a tad envious. You sound like a jilted lover.

As for educating the public, we appreciate your attempt at that particular service but again, it really isn't necessary.

You come across as some sort of pompous jackass who feels you are somehow special because your 14 year old committed 9 years of their life away . It's a great school and certainly those who are attending should be proud but let's not pretend that the students who select a military academy are the greatest academic or greatest athletes out there. I have seen many parents push their kids to certain schools because they like the price tag and this is no different.

Trying to figure out what club you are talking about. You just described 40-60 commitments in your description "Usually between 20-30 D1 and similar amounts of D2/D3. " . The top clubs with recruiting are M&D and YJ and they only have between 40-50 commits per age group. This must be some super secret club that puts all the other clubs recruits to shame.

It's not a super secret club. u know the name. I just looked on website to count to see if my guess on numbers was accurate. They haven't posted 2016 grads yet. In '14 class there were 34 D1 players and 17 D2/D3. In '15 class there were 20 D1 players and 19 D2/D3. Scanning a little, those actually look like pretty good bookends. The '14 class looks high on D1 number. I would say my guesses were pretty accurate, but more like 20-25 D1 per year w '14 being a strong year. So 40-50 total per year, half D1 is about right.

And no commitments on website.

Sorry you did not get in sir. We hope this opportunity to air your grievances publicly proves theraputic.