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He wasn't the only coach. An [lacrosse]'t coach was hit harder than an avalanche the morning of a tournament this past summer. When he did make it to the game, he was nothing but negative and nasty too the players. Disgrace.

I guess second teams do get the same treatment as first teams!

Agreed....except with your 'example organization'. Statement based of first hand experience.

It's an observation. It's not hard to treat all the teams the same. Not talking about recruiting. More practice, development, tourneys, one coach... That's all. Not hard. Again my opinion.

Why don't you ask an avalanche parent about that team getting the same attention. They have been in existence for 2 years so far and both years have hemoraged players and had to rebuild. This is not because the experience is great. As a matter of fact, that team only had 4 tourneys listed last spring/summer until the par mets went nuts and they added events. Not all unicorns and rainbows on Avalanche

Express is the biggest waste of money ever.

We were supposed to be such a good team last year .We went to four tournaments we won one and we got killed on all the other ones . Yep let's spend more money on garbage coaching

So that's my point, because I was impressed with the 2022s and wished my kid tried out. So overall, it's still my opinion, there is no consistency with 2nd teams. Some are really good and some are an after thought. I guess it's the coach and his dedication tat determines the experience. How do we as parents and consumers figure this out?? Good topic here to discuss.

Yesterday proved my point. Igloo has an A and AA. Only ones that can say that. One thought is... at tryouts kids should say I am only trying out for the top team. Why? Because good second teams get picked and don't form because B team invites are declined. Nothing wrong with declining amd striving just for the top team, however, it would make the forming a 2nd or B team more effective. Or name the A team and have another tryout for the 2nd team.

Not for 2021 they don't.

A and AA doesn't work when you start recruiting next year. Program won't get two invites to big tournaments. Even if not B by ability , always second team and priority to organization. Which will be a shame , because you actually have a couple of A players on team.

For every person that says that there are dozens who feel otherwise.

?????? Who are we talking about here .... if so why have your kid on the team

My Sons friend plays on 2021 Kowarski team, I have been reading some people on here beating the team up because they have to many players, some say as many as 28. They had 20 guys on the team and it looked like everyone got to play. Also, The coaches looked as if they were coaching as they should. Not a fan of reading B/S Probably from disgruntled Ex Players parents. Not looking for an argument, Just explaining what I saw.

That's because 8 people left the team after the first tournament.

How is that possible? Where did they go?

How many kids are on the 2021 AA Express team? More curious about the middies and attack breakout. Thx

they will just keep adding kids as long as your money is green .... if your son is not getting time on the field then move to another team this is a crucial time in your kids college looks and he will not get scene on the bench ..... hit the prospect camp as well and ask the coach WHO HAS THE MAVERICK SHOWTIME BID TO THE TOP SHOWCASE ... then you will know where you stand on the team !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On an odd day or even day?

Not trying to get a rise but just curious as to how they stack up on these 2 positions vs my sons team? I.e. Do they typically rotate the attack or no? What positions reclassed this yr from the 2020 team?

Okay igloo dad

Proved your point ?? 1 - 2.

Losing by less than you thought doesn't make you an A team.

Thank You, well said. The level of B/S posts are out of control. My son plays on 2021 Karwoski, we have no issues. There are more kids then last year, his playing time went down from last year, we told him "get better, play harder fight for your spot, you want it take it back". I keep reading this A and AA team B/S, I don't know where its coming from but no one has been told this is an A team. If you were unhappy with Express and left the team that's your business and there's no reason to continually bash them. It's like they can't stand that other people are happy with them.

Is it normal to have your son play on an A team for Express and to have a few fall practices followed by 2 tournaments and then not hear a word from your coach for 2 weeks? The boys have another tournament in 2 weeks. They have a lot of talent on their team but practicing together as a team would be beneficial. As well as communication from the coach.

It's worse at other clubs so stop complaining you woossy.

That's your bar? It's worse at other clubs?? Really??!

I asked if it was normal. I wasn't complaining.

Don't worry about the responses. This site is full of pre-pubescent men/boys who can't respond to a simple question without a snark comment.

No not normal, we have our sons practice schedule...we have good communication. E-mail the coach or the director

What year? If 2024 you should have stayed with the B team. Did you honestly think he was going to be different this year?

Schwalje is never going to change....too busy with other stuff to coach 2024's

The fish rots from the head down

B team, no way, no how. If johnnie is on the B team, just get him a baseball glove.

What an ignorant statement in my opinion. So many kids that don't start out on the A team turn into very good players and even play division 1. Not one, many... there so many better situations available than SOME A teams. This have to be on the top team culture is nonsense. I don't understand the parents who think it's good for their kid to be an A team practice player. And those usually pay for training on the side in the hopes to play more. But whatever, to each his own. Just sharing my opinion have been these roads.

There was a great article in the paper this past weekend about early commits. It was about football but absolutely pertains to lacrosse and changing the rule so kids don't get hurt. It was about a kid who committed early to Michigan and let all other teams know he was going to Michigan with a big announcement and internet posts. He thought he was done looking and could enjoy his senior year of HS. He got a call just as HS school SENIOR YEAR started from Michigan to let him know they THEY CHANGED THEIR MIND and no longer needed him. He could still come to Michigan but no scholarship. Turns out a better player became available and they got him to commit. The kid has no recourse and because he wants to play football is now at a lower tier school. This can and does happen to lacrosse players all the time you just don't hear about it because parents won't admit it. If they change the rule and early commits are locked in and must be honored all of the bull crap will stop. You won't have all these kids being offered spots as quickly and easily as they do now. Puts all the pressure on the coaches to be sure what they are doing. Kids get verbals which mean absolutely nothing and don't sign commit papers until years later.

The kid should have signed his NLI Junior year. No NLI and nothing is promised.

Very interesting. The owness needs to be put on the college coaches somehow. Right now it's just a business to them.

It is on the College coach, sign your NLI and the deal is done. Athlete is protected by the NCAA. So is the school. If the kid backs out he loses eligibility, the school can't back out of NLI. And yes it is a business, the school provides an education for free, the athlete is thus an employee of the school. "Work" is practice, workouts and games.

I thought NLI's are signed earliest Fall of Senior Year

NLI is signed senior year.