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Yes and that is why the majority of private schools don't offer the upper level math classes or number of AP classes most publics do. Keep convincing yourself you are so much better - but do the homework and educate yourself about which offers superior education in the surrounding counties before you make an even more uneducated statement. the privates offer some good things to their students, including a more intense focus on athletics, but a superior education is not one of those things.


I think the homework you did was issued by the public school, which means you are way behind the times in life.


Ha ha...said like a true elitist trying to convince themselves that they are paying for the best education. Guess you did not look further than that glossy brochure you were handed that was paid for with your tuition dollars and the speech the alum told you about the inner workings of Baltimore whet high school mattered which the rest of the country could care less about. As an aside, if you live in certain parts of Baltimore City, you may feel you have no choice but to go private as the schools your kids are districted to are not the public schools being discussed here but that is the price you pay for low taxes in a zip code perceived by old Baltimore regime as desirable and that is a trade off you consciously made.
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Yes and that is why the majority of private schools don't offer the upper level math classes or number of AP classes most publics do. Keep convincing yourself you are so much better - but do the homework and educate yourself about which offers superior education in the surrounding counties before you make an even more uneducated statement. the privates offer some good things to their students, including a more intense focus on athletics, but a superior education is not one of those things

How do you know this? Are you a public school teacher or maybe you can't afford private schools or maybe you son can't pass the entrance exams? You are way off base to think that public is superior to private. Public schools just keep pushing kids along to the next grade, regardless of performance etc. How many kids fail and repeat a grade in public schools? Very very few, if at all. I have done the homework, compared one of the best counties in Md. for public schools and they can't compete with privates.
Advance and AP courses are offered in privates and the main focus in privates is education first, above all else. Public schools, first priority is the teacher and keep within the lines so as to keep their jobs.
It amazes me how the uninformed come on here and come very close to trashing something they know nothing about, and you sir clearly demonstrated that.


. We shall have to simply disagree as we also have done extensive research, had no issue with the "entrance exam" and despite the brainwashing the lacrosse elite try to do, believe based on our research that the education offered in public is superior should a student wish to avail themselves of it. There are many intangibles for both - plus and minuses- but our kids do not need the handholding of the private environment and prefer the course offerings that resemble those of a small college that no private in Maryland can offer - including the number of AP classes not offered at a private simply because they do not have the number of students to fill those classes. It is economies of scale. We also prefer the breadth of diversity including socioeconomic and the lack of elitism that exists in many privates. public school in our opinion mirrors real life. private schools weed out students as to not rock the boat or risk a bad apple. As such, there are more students that are average learners or below average in a public school so,the raw stats of overall school population when comparing the two are like comparing apples and oranges. your entrance exams flush certain learners out of your population so the private scores do not represent a true diverse learning population. If you compare the scores of like students those scores would generally exceed the scores of the same population at a private. You pay for other things which each family has to weigh the worth of. Also education is not always first with privates and this is the wrong population to try and convince of that - remember many of these students athletes are offered enticements to attend said private schools beginning in 9th grade. Also any school that would hold back a child simply at the parents request for sports does not have a child's best academic interest at heart and we all know the majority of holdbacks are sports related and products of the private schools. .


What is this drivel? Please stop attempting thought.

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Yes and that is why the majority of private schools don't offer the upper level math classes or number of AP classes most publics do. Keep convincing yourself you are so much better - but do the homework and educate yourself about which offers superior education in the surrounding counties before you make an even more uneducated statement. the privates offer some good things to their students, including a more intense focus on athletics, but a superior education is not one of those things

How do you know this? Are you a public school teacher or maybe you can't afford private schools or maybe you son can't pass the entrance exams? You are way off base to think that public is superior to private. Public schools just keep pushing kids along to the next grade, regardless of performance etc. How many kids fail and repeat a grade in public schools? Very very few, if at all. I have done the homework, compared one of the best counties in Md. for public schools and they can't compete with privates.
Advance and AP courses are offered in privates and the main focus in privates is education first, above all else. Public schools, first priority is the teacher and keep within the lines so as to keep their jobs.
It amazes me how the uninformed come on here and come very close to trashing something they know nothing about, and you sir clearly demonstrated that.


. We shall have to simply disagree as we also have done extensive research, had no issue with the "entrance exam" and despite the brainwashing the lacrosse elite try to do, believe based on our research that the education offered in public is superior should a student wish to avail themselves of it. There are many intangibles for both - plus and minuses- but our kids do not need the handholding of the private environment and prefer the course offerings that resemble those of a small college that no private in Maryland can offer - including the number of AP classes not offered at a private simply because they do not have the number of students to fill those classes. It is economies of scale. We also prefer the breadth of diversity including socioeconomic and the lack of elitism that exists in many privates. public school in our opinion mirrors real life. private schools weed out students as to not rock the boat or risk a bad apple. As such, there are more students that are average learners or below average in a public school so,the raw stats of overall school population when comparing the two are like comparing apples and oranges. your entrance exams flush certain learners out of your population so the private scores do not represent a true diverse learning population. If you compare the scores of like students those scores would generally exceed the scores of the same population at a private. You pay for other things which each family has to weigh the worth of. Also education is not always first with privates and this is the wrong population to try and convince of that - remember many of these students athletes are offered enticements to attend said private schools beginning in 9th grade. Also any school that would hold back a child simply at the parents request for sports does not have a child's best academic interest at heart and we all know the majority of holdbacks are sports related and products of the private schools. .


What is this drivel? Please stop attempting thought.


Another elitist response. No tolerance for any other opinions or possibility that you may be wrong. same type of reaction when your holdback mentality is questioned. Sad to think you are passing this trait on to the next generation of entitled.

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Yes and that is why the majority of private schools don't offer the upper level math classes or number of AP classes most publics do. Keep convincing yourself you are so much better - but do the homework and educate yourself about which offers superior education in the surrounding counties before you make an even more uneducated statement. the privates offer some good things to their students, including a more intense focus on athletics, but a superior education is not one of those things

How do you know this? Are you a public school teacher or maybe you can't afford private schools or maybe you son can't pass the entrance exams? You are way off base to think that public is superior to private. Public schools just keep pushing kids along to the next grade, regardless of performance etc. How many kids fail and repeat a grade in public schools? Very very few, if at all. I have done the homework, compared one of the best counties in Md. for public schools and they can't compete with privates.
Advance and AP courses are offered in privates and the main focus in privates is education first, above all else. Public schools, first priority is the teacher and keep within the lines so as to keep their jobs.
It amazes me how the uninformed come on here and come very close to trashing something they know nothing about, and you sir clearly demonstrated that.


. We shall have to simply disagree as we also have done extensive research, had no issue with the "entrance exam" and despite the brainwashing the lacrosse elite try to do, believe based on our research that the education offered in public is superior should a student wish to avail themselves of it. There are many intangibles for both - plus and minuses- but our kids do not need the handholding of the private environment and prefer the course offerings that resemble those of a small college that no private in Maryland can offer - including the number of AP classes not offered at a private simply because they do not have the number of students to fill those classes. It is economies of scale. We also prefer the breadth of diversity including socioeconomic and the lack of elitism that exists in many privates. public school in our opinion mirrors real life. private schools weed out students as to not rock the boat or risk a bad apple. As such, there are more students that are average learners or below average in a public school so,the raw stats of overall school population when comparing the two are like comparing apples and oranges. your entrance exams flush certain learners out of your population so the private scores do not represent a true diverse learning population. If you compare the scores of like students those scores would generally exceed the scores of the same population at a private. You pay for other things which each family has to weigh the worth of. Also education is not always first with privates and this is the wrong population to try and convince of that - remember many of these students athletes are offered enticements to attend said private schools beginning in 9th grade. Also any school that would hold back a child simply at the parents request for sports does not have a child's best academic interest at heart and we all know the majority of holdbacks are sports related and products of the private schools. .


Then disagree it will be. What I am gleaning from your long explanation is that you have completely convinced yourself that public is superior to private. You have sold yourself and probably the family this is the way to go for your child's education. I would bet you are a product of the public school system and think this is superior.
My gut feeling is you are taking this route because of economics and it is free compared to the cost of a superior private school. "Honey, we can get that new car now, junior is staying in public school". Could that be it. My next question, I bet you feel public colleges are far superior than private colleges.
To each his own, that's what makes the world go round, but you have really had way too much kool aid from the public school system.
Lastly, some of the things you are stating are simply not true, you seem to be making things up to try and justify your decision.

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WOW for this back and forth go on week after week tells me only one thing - this group of adults has mastered the art of being childish.
Hold backs vs. non holdbacks, private vs. public, my team is better than yours, etc. If the amount of time and effort spent bantering on this site was spent in more positive ways, imagine all the good that could be achieved. A cure for cancer, world peace, raising a child who can function in the real world - the possibilities are endless.
At the end of the day hopefully we are all trying to do what is in the best interest of our individual child. Most likely each boy whose parents are on this forum will one day need to function on their own and get a job. Based on this forum there will be a ton of employers receiving passive aggressive anonymous emails, trying to "help" their child because something in life isn't fair.
Watch out world the Baltimore area 2020 graduates are coming! Hopefully someone along the way will teach them to effectively communicate and interact with the human race. when they're 25 and trying to get a job and support themselves, the topics on this forum won't matter. However, their ability to recognize that life's not fair and someone else will always have an advantage over them will matter. Let's certainly hope that the grownups on this forum help guide them well - or at least maintain the dialogue on this thread. I can't wait to read what the excuses are that someone doesn't get a date to the prom or doesn't win the lottery even though they didn't buy a ticket.

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Easy answer for if they don't get a date to the prom..just hold them back. As for the lottery not sure what is next in that parental back of tricks.

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Every negative comment is from a dad with an Avg lacrosse player. Bottom line

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Yes and that is why the majority of private schools don't offer the upper level math classes or number of AP classes most publics do. Keep convincing yourself you are so much better - but do the homework and educate yourself about which offers superior education in the surrounding counties before you make an even more uneducated statement. the privates offer some good things to their students, including a more intense focus on athletics, but a superior education is not one of those things

How do you know this? Are you a public school teacher or maybe you can't afford private schools or maybe you son can't pass the entrance exams? You are way off base to think that public is superior to private. Public schools just keep pushing kids along to the next grade, regardless of performance etc. How many kids fail and repeat a grade in public schools? Very very few, if at all. I have done the homework, compared one of the best counties in Md. for public schools and they can't compete with privates.
Advance and AP courses are offered in privates and the main focus in privates is education first, above all else. Public schools, first priority is the teacher and keep within the lines so as to keep their jobs.
It amazes me how the uninformed come on here and come very close to trashing something they know nothing about, and you sir clearly demonstrated that.


. We shall have to simply disagree as we also have done extensive research, had no issue with the "entrance exam" and despite the brainwashing the lacrosse elite try to do, believe based on our research that the education offered in public is superior should a student wish to avail themselves of it. There are many intangibles for both - plus and minuses- but our kids do not need the handholding of the private environment and prefer the course offerings that resemble those of a small college that no private in Maryland can offer - including the number of AP classes not offered at a private simply because they do not have the number of students to fill those classes. It is economies of scale. We also prefer the breadth of diversity including socioeconomic and the lack of elitism that exists in many privates. public school in our opinion mirrors real life. private schools weed out students as to not rock the boat or risk a bad apple. As such, there are more students that are average learners or below average in a public school so,the raw stats of overall school population when comparing the two are like comparing apples and oranges. your entrance exams flush certain learners out of your population so the private scores do not represent a true diverse learning population. If you compare the scores of like students those scores would generally exceed the scores of the same population at a private. You pay for other things which each family has to weigh the worth of. Also education is not always first with privates and this is the wrong population to try and convince of that - remember many of these students athletes are offered enticements to attend said private schools beginning in 9th grade. Also any school that would hold back a child simply at the parents request for sports does not have a child's best academic interest at heart and we all know the majority of holdbacks are sports related and products of the private schools. .


Then disagree it will be. What I am gleaning from your long explanation is that you have completely convinced yourself that public is superior to private. You have sold yourself and probably the family this is the way to go for your child's education. I would bet you are a product of the public school system and think this is superior.
My gut feeling is you are taking this route because of economics and it is free compared to the cost of a superior private school. "Honey, we can get that new car now, junior is staying in public school". Could that be it. My next question, I bet you feel public colleges are far superior than private colleges.
To each his own, that's what makes the world go round, but you have really had way too much kool aid from the public school system.
Lastly, some of the things you are stating are simply not true, you seem to be making things up to try and justify your decision.


- First, you seem a bit hysterical.
- Second, what about the previous post is not true? Please provide data to support.
- Third, true, some simply can't afford it, but most families who can afford 3-5k per year for club lacrosse could probably find a way if they felt the value was there.
- Fourth, have not seen any stats that correlate private primary education with academic and economic success later in life. For every D1 commit from a Baltimore private school you see another commit to someplace like Salisbury - hardly worth multiple years of private school tuition IMHO.

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Yes and that is why the majority of private schools don't offer the upper level math classes or number of AP classes most publics do. Keep convincing yourself you are so much better - but do the homework and educate yourself about which offers superior education in the surrounding counties before you make an even more uneducated statement. the privates offer some good things to their students, including a more intense focus on athletics, but a superior education is not one of those things

How do you know this? Are you a public school teacher or maybe you can't afford private schools or maybe you son can't pass the entrance exams? You are way off base to think that public is superior to private. Public schools just keep pushing kids along to the next grade, regardless of performance etc. How many kids fail and repeat a grade in public schools? Very very few, if at all. I have done the homework, compared one of the best counties in Md. for public schools and they can't compete with privates.
Advance and AP courses are offered in privates and the main focus in privates is education first, above all else. Public schools, first priority is the teacher and keep within the lines so as to keep their jobs.
It amazes me how the uninformed come on here and come very close to trashing something they know nothing about, and you sir clearly demonstrated that.


. We shall have to simply disagree as we also have done extensive research, had no issue with the "entrance exam" and despite the brainwashing the lacrosse elite try to do, believe based on our research that the education offered in public is superior should a student wish to avail themselves of it. There are many intangibles for both - plus and minuses- but our kids do not need the handholding of the private environment and prefer the course offerings that resemble those of a small college that no private in Maryland can offer - including the number of AP classes not offered at a private simply because they do not have the number of students to fill those classes. It is economies of scale. We also prefer the breadth of diversity including socioeconomic and the lack of elitism that exists in many privates. public school in our opinion mirrors real life. private schools weed out students as to not rock the boat or risk a bad apple. As such, there are more students that are average learners or below average in a public school so,the raw stats of overall school population when comparing the two are like comparing apples and oranges. your entrance exams flush certain learners out of your population so the private scores do not represent a true diverse learning population. If you compare the scores of like students those scores would generally exceed the scores of the same population at a private. You pay for other things which each family has to weigh the worth of. Also education is not always first with privates and this is the wrong population to try and convince of that - remember many of these students athletes are offered enticements to attend said private schools beginning in 9th grade. Also any school that would hold back a child simply at the parents request for sports does not have a child's best academic interest at heart and we all know the majority of holdbacks are sports related and products of the private schools. .


Then disagree it will be. What I am gleaning from your long explanation is that you have completely convinced yourself that public is superior to private. You have sold yourself and probably the family this is the way to go for your child's education. I would bet you are a product of the public school system and think this is superior.
My gut feeling is you are taking this route because of economics and it is free compared to the cost of a superior private school. "Honey, we can get that new car now, junior is staying in public school". Could that be it. My next question, I bet you feel public colleges are far superior than private colleges.
To each his own, that's what makes the world go round, but you have really had way too much kool aid from the public school system.
Lastly, some of the things you are stating are simply not true, you seem to be making things up to try and justify your decision.


- First, you seem a bit hysterical.
- Second, what about the previous post is not true? Please provide data to support.
- Third, true, some simply can't afford it, but most families who can afford 3-5k per year for club lacrosse could probably find a way if they felt the value was there.
- Fourth, have not seen any stats that correlate private primary education with academic and economic success later in life. For every D1 commit from a Baltimore private school you see another commit to someplace like Salisbury - hardly worth multiple years of private school tuition IMHO.


Hysterical? Quite the opposite, you seem that way, given your strong push re public schools.
AP courses in public are very limited. I know of 3 or 4 private that offer AP in Computer Science and informatics; Mathematics-calculus/statistics/Science-biology, chemistry environmental science, physics; English; History and Politics; Modern and Classical Languages etc. No public school can match this and this is true in almost every private school offering. This is the part you are brushing over and stating public offers more AP, which it doesn't.
Seems many public students end up at Salisbury and the like much more than JHU, UNC, UVA, the IVY's etc.
You never answered the question, it seems you just may be a public school teacher/employee.
Again, to each their own but I do not have any faith in the public school system as a whole and how it operates. Just look at how they handle snow days and when the limit is exceeded, make kids go an extra xx number of days just to meet a set # of days. Plus, the added days at the end of the school year, the kids do nothing, they are just there so the administration can say we met the required number of days. The government got way too involved in the admin of the public school system and now it is a mess. Remember "No child left behind". Good grief.

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All of you are absolutely hilarious. I bet some of you actually stick your tongue out at the computer screen, or flip it off, or both.

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All of you are absolutely hilarious. I bet some of you actually stick your tongue out at the computer screen, or flip it off, or both.


No, but you gave me an idea, to flip you off. There you go.

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Yes and that is why the majority of private schools don't offer the upper level math classes or number of AP classes most publics do. Keep convincing yourself you are so much better - but do the homework and educate yourself about which offers superior education in the surrounding counties before you make an even more uneducated statement. the privates offer some good things to their students, including a more intense focus on athletics, but a superior education is not one of those things

How do you know this? Are you a public school teacher or maybe you can't afford private schools or maybe you son can't pass the entrance exams? You are way off base to think that public is superior to private. Public schools just keep pushing kids along to the next grade, regardless of performance etc. How many kids fail and repeat a grade in public schools? Very very few, if at all. I have done the homework, compared one of the best counties in Md. for public schools and they can't compete with privates.
Advance and AP courses are offered in privates and the main focus in privates is education first, above all else. Public schools, first priority is the teacher and keep within the lines so as to keep their jobs.
It amazes me how the uninformed come on here and come very close to trashing something they know nothing about, and you sir clearly demonstrated that.


. We shall have to simply disagree as we also have done extensive research, had no issue with the "entrance exam" and despite the brainwashing the lacrosse elite try to do, believe based on our research that the education offered in public is superior should a student wish to avail themselves of it. There are many intangibles for both - plus and minuses- but our kids do not need the handholding of the private environment and prefer the course offerings that resemble those of a small college that no private in Maryland can offer - including the number of AP classes not offered at a private simply because they do not have the number of students to fill those classes. It is economies of scale. We also prefer the breadth of diversity including socioeconomic and the lack of elitism that exists in many privates. public school in our opinion mirrors real life. private schools weed out students as to not rock the boat or risk a bad apple. As such, there are more students that are average learners or below average in a public school so,the raw stats of overall school population when comparing the two are like comparing apples and oranges. your entrance exams flush certain learners out of your population so the private scores do not represent a true diverse learning population. If you compare the scores of like students those scores would generally exceed the scores of the same population at a private. You pay for other things which each family has to weigh the worth of. Also education is not always first with privates and this is the wrong population to try and convince of that - remember many of these students athletes are offered enticements to attend said private schools beginning in 9th grade. Also any school that would hold back a child simply at the parents request for sports does not have a child's best academic interest at heart and we all know the majority of holdbacks are sports related and products of the private schools. .


Then disagree it will be. What I am gleaning from your long explanation is that you have completely convinced yourself that public is superior to private. You have sold yourself and probably the family this is the way to go for your child's education. I would bet you are a product of the public school system and think this is superior.
My gut feeling is you are taking this route because of economics and it is free compared to the cost of a superior private school. "Honey, we can get that new car now, junior is staying in public school". Could that be it. My next question, I bet you feel public colleges are far superior than private colleges.
To each his own, that's what makes the world go round, but you have really had way too much kool aid from the public school system.
Lastly, some of the things you are stating are simply not true, you seem to be making things up to try and justify your decision.


- First, you seem a bit hysterical.
- Second, what about the previous post is not true? Please provide data to support.
- Third, true, some simply can't afford it, but most families who can afford 3-5k per year for club lacrosse could probably find a way if they felt the value was there.
- Fourth, have not seen any stats that correlate private primary education with academic and economic success later in life. For every D1 commit from a Baltimore private school you see another commit to someplace like Salisbury - hardly worth multiple years of private school tuition IMHO.


Hysterical? Quite the opposite, you seem that way, given your strong push re public schools.
AP courses in public are very limited. I know of 3 or 4 private that offer AP in Computer Science and informatics; Mathematics-calculus/statistics/Science-biology, chemistry environmental science, physics; English; History and Politics; Modern and Classical Languages etc. No public school can match this and this is true in almost every private school offering. This is the part you are brushing over and stating public offers more AP, which it doesn't.
Seems many public students end up at Salisbury and the like much more than JHU, UNC, UVA, the IVY's etc.
You never answered the question, it seems you just may be a public school teacher/employee.
Again, to each their own but I do not have any faith in the public school system as a whole and how it operates. Just look at how they handle snow days and when the limit is exceeded, make kids go an extra xx number of days just to meet a set # of days. Plus, the added days at the end of the school year, the kids do nothing, they are just there so the administration can say we met the required number of days. The government got way too involved in the admin of the public school system and now it is a mess. Remember "No child left behind". Good grief.


Baltimore county high schools offer an average of 24-30 AP classes in each school depending on interest level and are able to offer even more - just the fine arts alone there are close to 40 AP classes that any school can offer. . Howard County high schools offer 36.. BL currently offers 14 AP classes.

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Just remember one thing. All negative comments come from Dads wth avg lacrosse players.

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Yes and that is why the majority of private schools don't offer the upper level math classes or number of AP classes most publics do. Keep convincing yourself you are so much better - but do the homework and educate yourself about which offers superior education in the surrounding counties before you make an even more uneducated statement. the privates offer some good things to their students, including a more intense focus on athletics, but a superior education is not one of those things

How do you know this? Are you a public school teacher or maybe you can't afford private schools or maybe you son can't pass the entrance exams? You are way off base to think that public is superior to private. Public schools just keep pushing kids along to the next grade, regardless of performance etc. How many kids fail and repeat a grade in public schools? Very very few, if at all. I have done the homework, compared one of the best counties in Md. for public schools and they can't compete with privates.
Advance and AP courses are offered in privates and the main focus in privates is education first, above all else. Public schools, first priority is the teacher and keep within the lines so as to keep their jobs.
It amazes me how the uninformed come on here and come very close to trashing something they know nothing about, and you sir clearly demonstrated that.


. We shall have to simply disagree as we also have done extensive research, had no issue with the "entrance exam" and despite the brainwashing the lacrosse elite try to do, believe based on our research that the education offered in public is superior should a student wish to avail themselves of it. There are many intangibles for both - plus and minuses- but our kids do not need the handholding of the private environment and prefer the course offerings that resemble those of a small college that no private in Maryland can offer - including the number of AP classes not offered at a private simply because they do not have the number of students to fill those classes. It is economies of scale. We also prefer the breadth of diversity including socioeconomic and the lack of elitism that exists in many privates. public school in our opinion mirrors real life. private schools weed out students as to not rock the boat or risk a bad apple. As such, there are more students that are average learners or below average in a public school so,the raw stats of overall school population when comparing the two are like comparing apples and oranges. your entrance exams flush certain learners out of your population so the private scores do not represent a true diverse learning population. If you compare the scores of like students those scores would generally exceed the scores of the same population at a private. You pay for other things which each family has to weigh the worth of. Also education is not always first with privates and this is the wrong population to try and convince of that - remember many of these students athletes are offered enticements to attend said private schools beginning in 9th grade. Also any school that would hold back a child simply at the parents request for sports does not have a child's best academic interest at heart and we all know the majority of holdbacks are sports related and products of the private schools. .


Then disagree it will be. What I am gleaning from your long explanation is that you have completely convinced yourself that public is superior to private. You have sold yourself and probably the family this is the way to go for your child's education. I would bet you are a product of the public school system and think this is superior.
My gut feeling is you are taking this route because of economics and it is free compared to the cost of a superior private school. "Honey, we can get that new car now, junior is staying in public school". Could that be it. My next question, I bet you feel public colleges are far superior than private colleges.
To each his own, that's what makes the world go round, but you have really had way too much kool aid from the public school system.
Lastly, some of the things you are stating are simply not true, you seem to be making things up to try and justify your decision.


- First, you seem a bit hysterical.
- Second, what about the previous post is not true? Please provide data to support.
- Third, true, some simply can't afford it, but most families who can afford 3-5k per year for club lacrosse could probably find a way if they felt the value was there.
- Fourth, have not seen any stats that correlate private primary education with academic and economic success later in life. For every D1 commit from a Baltimore private school you see another commit to someplace like Salisbury - hardly worth multiple years of private school tuition IMHO.


Hysterical? Quite the opposite, you seem that way, given your strong push re public schools.
AP courses in public are very limited. I know of 3 or 4 private that offer AP in Computer Science and informatics; Mathematics-calculus/statistics/Science-biology, chemistry environmental science, physics; English; History and Politics; Modern and Classical Languages etc. No public school can match this and this is true in almost every private school offering. This is the part you are brushing over and stating public offers more AP, which it doesn't.
Seems many public students end up at Salisbury and the like much more than JHU, UNC, UVA, the IVY's etc.
You never answered the question, it seems you just may be a public school teacher/employee.
Again, to each their own but I do not have any faith in the public school system as a whole and how it operates. Just look at how they handle snow days and when the limit is exceeded, make kids go an extra xx number of days just to meet a set # of days. Plus, the added days at the end of the school year, the kids do nothing, they are just there so the administration can say we met the required number of days. The government got way too involved in the admin of the public school system and now it is a mess. Remember "No child left behind". Good grief.


Baltimore county high schools offer an average of 24-30 AP classes in each school depending on interest level and are able to offer even more - just the fine arts alone there are close to 40 AP classes that any school can offer. . Howard County high schools offer 36.. BL currently offers 14 AP classes.


BL also has a much smaller student body than public high schools.

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Who attend public high schools.

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All of you are absolutely hilarious. I bet some of you actually stick your tongue out at the computer screen, or flip it off, or both.


No, but you gave me an idea, to flip you off. There you go.


See what I mean?! Hilarious!

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And they apparently feel the need to repeat themselves, too.

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Yes and that is why the majority of private schools don't offer the upper level math classes or number of AP classes most publics do. Keep convincing yourself you are so much better - but do the homework and educate yourself about which offers superior education in the surrounding counties before you make an even more uneducated statement. the privates offer some good things to their students, including a more intense focus on athletics, but a superior education is not one of those things

How do you know this? Are you a public school teacher or maybe you can't afford private schools or maybe you son can't pass the entrance exams? You are way off base to think that public is superior to private. Public schools just keep pushing kids along to the next grade, regardless of performance etc. How many kids fail and repeat a grade in public schools? Very very few, if at all. I have done the homework, compared one of the best counties in Md. for public schools and they can't compete with privates.
Advance and AP courses are offered in privates and the main focus in privates is education first, above all else. Public schools, first priority is the teacher and keep within the lines so as to keep their jobs.
It amazes me how the uninformed come on here and come very close to trashing something they know nothing about, and you sir clearly demonstrated that.


. We shall have to simply disagree as we also have done extensive research, had no issue with the "entrance exam" and despite the brainwashing the lacrosse elite try to do, believe based on our research that the education offered in public is superior should a student wish to avail themselves of it. There are many intangibles for both - plus and minuses- but our kids do not need the handholding of the private environment and prefer the course offerings that resemble those of a small college that no private in Maryland can offer - including the number of AP classes not offered at a private simply because they do not have the number of students to fill those classes. It is economies of scale. We also prefer the breadth of diversity including socioeconomic and the lack of elitism that exists in many privates. public school in our opinion mirrors real life. private schools weed out students as to not rock the boat or risk a bad apple. As such, there are more students that are average learners or below average in a public school so,the raw stats of overall school population when comparing the two are like comparing apples and oranges. your entrance exams flush certain learners out of your population so the private scores do not represent a true diverse learning population. If you compare the scores of like students those scores would generally exceed the scores of the same population at a private. You pay for other things which each family has to weigh the worth of. Also education is not always first with privates and this is the wrong population to try and convince of that - remember many of these students athletes are offered enticements to attend said private schools beginning in 9th grade. Also any school that would hold back a child simply at the parents request for sports does not have a child's best academic interest at heart and we all know the majority of holdbacks are sports related and products of the private schools. .


Then disagree it will be. What I am gleaning from your long explanation is that you have completely convinced yourself that public is superior to private. You have sold yourself and probably the family this is the way to go for your child's education. I would bet you are a product of the public school system and think this is superior.
My gut feeling is you are taking this route because of economics and it is free compared to the cost of a superior private school. "Honey, we can get that new car now, junior is staying in public school". Could that be it. My next question, I bet you feel public colleges are far superior than private colleges.
To each his own, that's what makes the world go round, but you have really had way too much kool aid from the public school system.
Lastly, some of the things you are stating are simply not true, you seem to be making things up to try and justify your decision.


- First, you seem a bit hysterical.
- Second, what about the previous post is not true? Please provide data to support.
- Third, true, some simply can't afford it, but most families who can afford 3-5k per year for club lacrosse could probably find a way if they felt the value was there.
- Fourth, have not seen any stats that correlate private primary education with academic and economic success later in life. For every D1 commit from a Baltimore private school you see another commit to someplace like Salisbury - hardly worth multiple years of private school tuition IMHO.


Hysterical? Quite the opposite, you seem that way, given your strong push re public schools.
AP courses in public are very limited. I know of 3 or 4 private that offer AP in Computer Science and informatics; Mathematics-calculus/statistics/Science-biology, chemistry environmental science, physics; English; History and Politics; Modern and Classical Languages etc. No public school can match this and this is true in almost every private school offering. This is the part you are brushing over and stating public offers more AP, which it doesn't.
Seems many public students end up at Salisbury and the like much more than JHU, UNC, UVA, the IVY's etc.
You never answered the question, it seems you just may be a public school teacher/employee.
Again, to each their own but I do not have any faith in the public school system as a whole and how it operates. Just look at how they handle snow days and when the limit is exceeded, make kids go an extra xx number of days just to meet a set # of days. Plus, the added days at the end of the school year, the kids do nothing, they are just there so the administration can say we met the required number of days. The government got way too involved in the admin of the public school system and now it is a mess. Remember "No child left behind". Good grief.


Baltimore county high schools offer an average of 24-30 AP classes in each school depending on interest level and are able to offer even more - just the fine arts alone there are close to 40 AP classes that any school can offer. . Howard County high schools offer 36.. BL currently offers 14 AP classes.


Please don't present actual data that contradicts the illusion of superiority that these people pay a lot of money for.

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Baltimore county high schools offer an average of 24-30 AP classes in each school depending on interest level and are able to offer even more - just the fine arts alone there are close to 40 AP classes that any school can offer. . Howard County high schools offer 36.. BL currently offers 14 AP classes.


Please don't present actual data that contradicts the illusion of superiority that these people pay a lot of money for.


First and foremost, the data presented about public schools is flawed. It is completely inaccurate and exaggerated. How do I know this? I am a HS principal in Baltimore County and while we do offer AP courses, it is no where in the numbers presented by this individual.
Proud of our school system but dislike someone presenting false information on a public or private forum.

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Agreed, the repeating is out of control. constantly mentioning holdbacks when nobody that matters cares.. you know like D1 coaches, top firms looking for interns from the top schools, Fortune 500 company recruiters..

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Baltimore county high schools offer an average of 24-30 AP classes in each school depending on interest level and are able to offer even more - just the fine arts alone there are close to 40 AP classes that any school can offer. . Howard County high schools offer 36.. BL currently offers 14 AP classes.


Please don't present actual data that contradicts the illusion of superiority that these people pay a lot of money for.


First and foremost, the data presented about public schools is flawed. It is completely inaccurate and exaggerated. How do I know this? I am a HS principal in Baltimore County and while we do offer AP courses, it is no where in the numbers presented by this individual.
Proud of our school system but dislike someone presenting false information on a public or private forum.


A real high school principal would write "nowhere" instead of "no where"...nice try. The number presented here are published for all to see.

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Agreed, the repeating is out of control. constantly mentioning holdbacks when nobody that matters cares.. you know like D1 coaches, top firms looking for interns from the top schools, Fortune 500 company recruiters..


"Move along, nothing to see here..." - yes, it would be easier for you if we just moved on so you could perpetrate your little scam without any attention whatsoever, but what fun would that be.

More data for you...the Fortune 500 collectively employ over 26,000,000 people, guessing that a lot of them did not go to a private school in Bawlmer. I think BL is going to have to increase class size, a lot, if you people want to claim that you somehow have a lock on Fortune 500 jobs.

What I see here are people who don't really know the facts but are just following what they see the people around them doing.

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Who attend public high schools.


How can a kid not look above average when he's competing against kids 12-18 months younger than him?!

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Baltimore county high schools offer an average of 24-30 AP classes in each school depending on interest level and are able to offer even more - just the fine arts alone there are close to 40 AP classes that any school can offer. . Howard County high schools offer 36.. BL currently offers 14 AP classes.




Please don't present actual data that contradicts the illusion of superiority that these people pay a lot of money for.


First and foremost, the data presented about public schools is flawed. It is completely inaccurate and exaggerated. How do I know this? I am a HS principal in Baltimore County and while we do offer AP courses, it is no where in the numbers presented by this individual.
Proud of our school system but dislike someone presenting false information on a public or private forum.


A real high school principal would write "nowhere" instead of "no where"...nice try. The number presented here are published for all to see.


This is what sometime happens with auto fill. Please direct us to the publications which substantiate your statements. If it is accurate, it should be easily accessible by anyone.

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Bunch of losers on here. You were left out and picked last at recess regardless if you all went to public or private.

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Bunch of losers on here. You were left out and picked last at recess regardless if you all went to public or private.


As least we were picked, seems like you being the biggest loser, never picked. But that is ok, we understand your frustrations in life and how it makes you react to things you read here that you do not understand.

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Baltimore county high schools offer an average of 24-30 AP classes in each school depending on interest level and are able to offer even more - just the fine arts alone there are close to 40 AP classes that any school can offer. . Howard County high schools offer 36.. BL currently offers 14 AP classes.




Please don't present actual data that contradicts the illusion of superiority that these people pay a lot of money for.


First and foremost, the data presented about public schools is flawed. It is completely inaccurate and exaggerated. How do I know this? I am a HS principal in Baltimore County and while we do offer AP courses, it is no where in the numbers presented by this individual.
Proud of our school system but dislike someone presenting false information on a public or private forum.


A real high school principal would write "nowhere" instead of "no where"...nice try. The number presented here are published for all to see.


This is what sometime happens with auto fill. Please direct us to the publications which substantiate your statements. If it is accurate, it should be easily accessible by anyone.


I can't think of a sentence where the words no and where would be used together, would be strange for auto-correct to suggest nonsensical phrases but whatever...

Can't post links here, just Google Baltimore County AP offerings. Quick review of the BCPS course registration guide shows no less than 32 AP courses offered...that's real data folks. How does a BC High School principal not know this? SMH

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Baltimore county high schools offer an average of 24-30 AP classes in each school depending on interest level and are able to offer even more - just the fine arts alone there are close to 40 AP classes that any school can offer. . Howard County high schools offer 36.. BL currently offers 14 AP classes.


Please don't present actual data that contradicts the illusion of superiority that these people pay a lot of money for.


First and foremost, the data presented about public schools is flawed. It is completely inaccurate and exaggerated. How do I know this? I am a HS principal in Baltimore County and while we do offer AP courses, it is no where in the numbers presented by this individual.
Proud of our school system but dislike someone presenting false information on a public or private forum.


Admirable try but rings hollow and doubtful you are an administrator - this is directly from our schools course catalog and the course catalog of a high school in Howard County.. Signing off of this discussion as similar to those who holdback, despite irreputable evidence, they maintain something different. Not worth the time to try to offer differing perspective to your population. For anyone truly interested in the facts, please do your own research and make an informed decision about what is best for your child.

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Baltimore county high schools offer an average of 24-30 AP classes in each school depending on interest level and are able to offer even more - just the fine arts alone there are close to 40 AP classes that any school can offer. . Howard County high schools offer 36.. BL currently offers 14 AP classes. [/quote]

Please don't present actual data that contradicts the illusion of superiority that these people pay a lot of money for.[/quote]

Public school education in this country is so awful, that we don't even rank within the top 20 countries in the world. The government is not capable of providing world class education. Congratulations if you take an AP course at a public school that is in a pool of schools that are not collectively good enough to be ranked in the top 20 in the world. If this was any other industry in the world, the leaders would be fired. Your public school is 3rd world compared to any local private school, and your kid being one of the smarter kids in it, doesn't make it any better.

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Baltimore county high schools offer an average of 24-30 AP classes in each school depending on interest level and are able to offer even more - just the fine arts alone there are close to 40 AP classes that any school can offer. . Howard County high schools offer 36.. BL currently offers 14 AP classes.


Please don't present actual data that contradicts the illusion of superiority that these people pay a lot of money for.[/quote]

Public school education in this country is so awful, that we don't even rank within the top 20 countries in the world. The government is not capable of providing world class education. Congratulations if you take an AP course at a public school that is in a pool of schools that are not collectively good enough to be ranked in the top 20 in the world. If this was any other industry in the world, the leaders would be fired. Your public school is 3rd world compared to any local private school, and your kid being one of the smarter kids in it, doesn't make it any better.[/quote]

BOOM. I felt that one.

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Baltimore county high schools offer an average of 24-30 AP classes in each school depending on interest level and are able to offer even more - just the fine arts alone there are close to 40 AP classes that any school can offer. . Howard County high schools offer 36.. BL currently offers 14 AP classes.


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Public school education in this country is so awful, that we don't even rank within the top 20 countries in the world. The government is not capable of providing world class education. Congratulations if you take an AP course at a public school that is in a pool of schools that are not collectively good enough to be ranked in the top 20 in the world. If this was any other industry in the world, the leaders would be fired. Your public school is 3rd world compared to any local private school, and your kid being one of the smarter kids in it, doesn't make it any better. [/quote]

An AP course is an AP course and that's how colleges look at it. Have they led you to believe that your AP courses are superior as well?

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Baltimore county high schools offer an average of 24-30 AP classes in each school depending on interest level and are able to offer even more - just the fine arts alone there are close to 40 AP classes that any school can offer. . Howard County high schools offer 36.. BL currently offers 14 AP classes.


Please don't present actual data that contradicts the illusion of superiority that these people pay a lot of money for.[/quote]

Public school education in this country is so awful, that we don't even rank within the top 20 countries in the world. The government is not capable of providing world class education. Congratulations if you take an AP course at a public school that is in a pool of schools that are not collectively good enough to be ranked in the top 20 in the world. If this was any other industry in the world, the leaders would be fired. Your public school is 3rd world compared to any local private school, and your kid being one of the smarter kids in it, doesn't make it any better. [/quote]

Per US News - Maryland has more nationally ranked public high schools than any other state. Did not find one Bawlmer school in comparable lists of best private schools...just sayin'

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Baltimore county high schools offer an average of 24-30 AP classes in each school depending on interest level and are able to offer even more - just the fine arts alone there are close to 40 AP classes that any school can offer. . Howard County high schools offer 36.. BL currently offers 14 AP classes.


Please don't present actual data that contradicts the illusion of superiority that these people pay a lot of money for.


Public school education in this country is so awful, that we don't even rank within the top 20 countries in the world. The government is not capable of providing world class education. Congratulations if you take an AP course at a public school that is in a pool of schools that are not collectively good enough to be ranked in the top 20 in the world. If this was any other industry in the world, the leaders would be fired. Your public school is 3rd world compared to any local private school, and your kid being one of the smarter kids in it, doesn't make it any better. [/quote]

Per US News - Maryland has more nationally ranked public high schools than any other state. Did not find one Bawlmer school in comparable lists of best private schools...just sayin'[/quote]

You can also polish a turd and call it the number one turd. You are missing the point that we are talking about two completely different systems that are not comparable. Should not even be able to talk about the two on the same forum.

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As a parent that has had children in both, there is no comparison. It's silly to argue that there is. Sitting in a class with 10 kids instead of 30 where teachers can create their own curriculum and not teach to some test are two different experiences. The private schools are light years ahead of public schools in preparing the kids for college. I went to public school and took AP classes and still never had to do homework. College was a huge adjustment. Not that way for the private school kids. Most of them say college is easy compared to HS.

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Baltimore county high schools offer an average of 24-30 AP classes in each school depending on interest level and are able to offer even more - just the fine arts alone there are close to 40 AP classes that any school can offer. . Howard County high schools offer 36.. BL currently offers 14 AP classes.


Please don't present actual data that contradicts the illusion of superiority that these people pay a lot of money for.


Public school education in this country is so awful, that we don't even rank within the top 20 countries in the world. The government is not capable of providing world class education. Congratulations if you take an AP course at a public school that is in a pool of schools that are not collectively good enough to be ranked in the top 20 in the world. If this was any other industry in the world, the leaders would be fired. Your public school is 3rd world compared to any local private school, and your kid being one of the smarter kids in it, doesn't make it any better. [/quote]

Per US News - Maryland has more nationally ranked public high schools than any other state. Did not find one Bawlmer school in comparable lists of best private schools...just sayin' [/quote]

Do you actually make this crap up as you go along or just dream it and believe it to be fact? Either way, you are so far off base with the public superior to private. You really have an agenda and the more you open your mouth the more obvious it becomes.

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As a parent that has had children in both, there is no comparison. It's silly to argue that there is. Sitting in a class with 10 kids instead of 30 where teachers can create their own curriculum and not teach to some test are two different experiences. The private schools are light years ahead of public schools in preparing the kids for college. I went to public school and took AP classes and still never had to do homework. College was a huge adjustment. Not that way for the private school kids. Most of them say college is easy compared to HS.


Newsflash...public school
Kids taking AP and gt courses say the same thing!

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Baltimore county high schools offer an average of 24-30 AP classes in each school depending on interest level and are able to offer even more - just the fine arts alone there are close to 40 AP classes that any school can offer. . Howard County high schools offer 36.. BL currently offers 14 AP classes.


Please don't present actual data that contradicts the illusion of superiority that these people pay a lot of money for.


Public school education in this country is so awful, that we don't even rank within the top 20 countries in the world. The government is not capable of providing world class education. Congratulations if you take an AP course at a public school that is in a pool of schools that are not collectively good enough to be ranked in the top 20 in the world. If this was any other industry in the world, the leaders would be fired. Your public school is 3rd world compared to any local private school, and your kid being one of the smarter kids in it, doesn't make it any better.


Per US News - Maryland has more nationally ranked public high schools than any other state. Did not find one Bawlmer school in comparable lists of best private schools...just sayin' [/quote]

Do you actually make this crap up as you go along or just dream it and believe it to be fact? Either way, you are so far off base with the public superior to private. You really have an agenda and the more you open your mouth the more obvious it becomes.[/quote]

It is interesting that the private school poster has not been able to offer one fact and offers only insults yet the supporter of public schools has offered several verifiable references. Folks like to believe that if they are paying more for something that it must be better.

There are some great things about private school in this area, but that does not translate into necessarily having the sole advantage in academics. Athletics as a whole are better although there are great athletes in public school but not as many located in one school because many privates also offer scholarships to bring players to them which is not possible with public. Holding back is not possible either nor are coaches permitted access to their teams year round.

Another tidbit not already shared...the two public school systems noted above require their teachers to have actual teaching degrees and the number of mastered teachers are much higher than the majority of privates in this area - many who do not require teaching credentials at all.

If you are happy with your choice for your child then great but the general tone of this board has been that private is superior to public and that public school attendees are only in public school due to economics and that is simply not true. It is a personal choice based on what is better for your family. So let's move back to another topic...

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As a parent that has had children in both, there is no comparison. It's silly to argue that there is. Sitting in a class with 10 kids instead of 30 where teachers can create their own curriculum and not teach to some test are two different experiences. The private schools are light years ahead of public schools in preparing the kids for college. I went to public school and took AP classes and still never had to do homework. College was a huge adjustment. Not that way for the private school kids. Most of them say college is easy compared to HS.


Newsflash...public school
Kids taking AP and gt courses say the same thing!


Would agree they are different experiences but you are making the assumption that larger classes are inferior in some way. For a child that does not need more individualized attention, does not have behavioral issues or a learning difficulty, class size is generally irrelevant. If your child needs extra attention or has difficulty adjusting to classes of 12-30 then private may be better but which child will be better prepared for a university lecture class where they need to self manage and adjust? The world is not going to adapt to your child's every need and be in a setting that is groomed - others feel that this individualized attention is important to high schoolers. Again, a matter of choice but private school is not intrinsically better than public school. Also, where are your statistics and references for a statement that private schools are light years ahead of public in terms of preparing kids for college- that is your personal opinion based on your personal experience and not based in fact at all or reflective of what is happening in the better school districts.

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As a parent that has had children in both, there is no comparison. It's silly to argue that there is. Sitting in a class with 10 kids instead of 30 where teachers can create their own curriculum and not teach to some test are two different experiences. The private schools are light years ahead of public schools in preparing the kids for college. I went to public school and took AP classes and still never had to do homework. College was a huge adjustment. Not that way for the private school kids. Most of them say college is easy compared to HS.


Newsflash...public school
Kids taking AP and gt courses say the same thing!


Would agree they are different experiences but you are making the assumption that larger classes are inferior in some way. For a child that does not need more individualized attention, does not have behavioral issues or a learning difficulty, class size is generally irrelevant. If your child needs extra attention or has difficulty adjusting to classes of 12-30 then private may be better but which child will be better prepared for a university lecture class where they need to self manage and adjust? The world is not going to adapt to your child's every need and be in a setting that is groomed - others feel that this individualized attention is important to high schoolers. Again, a matter of choice but private school is not intrinsically better than public school. Also, where are your statistics and references for a statement that private schools are light years ahead of public in terms of preparing kids for college- that is your personal opinion based on your personal experience and not based in fact at all or reflective of what is happening in the better school districts.


You get what you pay for, plain and simple. Our public education is matched and being beat in 3rd world countries.

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