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Only thing that has changed for this fall and next spring for their 2020 team is that they have a good amount of kids in the 9th grade who should be in the 10th grade and one or two are double holdbacks. It will never change with this organization, it is the business model of RM and will never change. Game the system to the fullest and hope for the best.
Their 2021 team also has a fair amount of holdbacks, kids in 8th grade who should be in 9th, but did the reclass thing.

2020 is 9th grad now, by the way. And no, there were no 16 year old 8th graders last year, as much as that would make your story better!

There are tryouts, and the best kids make the team. The club does not have any bearing on what these kids do in school. Most of the kids you are calling holdbacks did prefirst years before club lacrosse was even a part of their life. To say that the club has any influence on parenting choices for schooling is a huge stretch! More private school kids end up on the elite teams because of the prefirst curriculum, but by the time you get to HS ball, the cards will have fallen as they may, where good players have separated themselves from the pack regardless of the 1 year age spread.

2020 is 9th grad now, by the way. And no, there were no 16 year old 8th graders last year, as much as that would make your story better!

There are tryouts, and the best kids make the team. The club does not have any bearing on what these kids do in school. Most of the kids you are calling holdbacks did prefirst years before club lacrosse was even a part of their life. To say that the club has any influence on parenting choices for schooling is a huge stretch! More private school kids end up on the elite teams because of the prefirst curriculum, but by the time you get to HS ball, the cards will have fallen as they may, where good players have separated themselves from the pack regardless of the 1 year age spread.

Please, you are talking too much sense for this crew. Logical thinking and facts don't matter on this hate spewing forum. You will always have the wannabe's and the "its not fair" crowd in a tizzy over skilled players. Just the way it is. Enjoy the vitriol as entertainment and try to feel for their pain.

YES there was a kid born in March of 2000 on the 2020 team. That made him 16 years in the 8th grade. Several other kids on the team turning 16 by the end of this year. Its a fact.

Complete nonsense that a fat crab doesn't have an influence on whether a family holds there kids back or not - look at the number of 2019s that reclassed to 2020.

Keep making excuses - everyone knows the games being played...own it.

What was the over under that Trump will be President....Ha.. He is President because he was the better candidate. Crabs lacrosse teams Win because they are better trained, better coached, and better prepared than most of the teams are out there.... Yeah they are not perfect but really scrutinized because parents are tired of either not making their teams or tired of loosing to them.... Don't you have a presidential protest to Riot and to cry no fair? Take your everyone gets a trophy mentality out of lacrosse.....

you sound like these idiot protestors on the news... get a life....I guess you and your kids were running around all weekend yelling it's not fair and to dump trump....

Too Soon?

2020 looked strong at NLF and Autumn Gold. Despite all of the rhetoric from back at tryouts, will be a top team going into this Spring/Summer.

You are a total idiot.

good grief, another crabs idiot daddy. Your program, crabs, is a sh*thole of club lacrosse and anyone that says excellent coaching at crabs is simply stupid. Look no further than Ryan McClernan, a total as*hole of a coach, doesn't know the game, can't relate to the players and spends most of his efforts yelling and belittling them.
And, in case you didn't realize it, this is a lacrosse forum, not a political forum. Or maybe you think BOTC stands for where Trump keeps his women.

Actually - I think parents are tired of seeing their 13 year old 8th graders play against 16 year old 8th graders. SIXTEEN YEARS OLD in the 8th grade. Field on age team and then maybe you will get some respect - until then - your a joke.

The 2023 team has a kid who is in 7th grade. He has not reclassified but they do not care.

Current team will lose to Crush, FCA, Looneys, Laxachussets (holdback kings of the north), Express, WCS, Hawks, Edge, and probably 1-2 more, putting them in the top 10, barely. Too much talent drained and the replacements not nearly as good, or old, as the ones who left.

Still a very good team, but Ryan's white whale - a team as good as Crush - will forever elude him...so sweet.

Current team will lose to Crush, FCA, Looneys, Laxachussets (holdback kings of the north), Express, WCS, Hawks, Edge, and probably 1-2 more, putting them in the top 10, barely. Too much talent drained and the replacements not nearly as good, or old, as the ones who left.

Still a very good team, but Ryan's white whale - a team as good as Crush - will forever elude him...so sweet.

And this is from a Crabs dad. Accurate assessment. All that matters is the college look and commit at this level. Crabs still great at that.

A shell of what they used to be. The replacements for the players that left are not of the same caliber. Strong players but not game changers. They have lost their luster and will be in top 15. Feel sorry for the kids who think they are of the old Crabs material yet they are just one of many good players.

Pretty sure zero of the players would ever require your pity, being that they just played some of the best teams in the country with great success, go to the best schools, and mostly every single one of the teammates will decide their own futures in education, athletics, and life!

They beat Laxachussets and Long Island Express last week dumbo.

My kid plays on that team and thy are very good..I'm totally in the dark on this..please share your wisdom if you are saying that every win should have an asterisk attached..

2020 went5-1 through the fall. Played top teams. Truth will
Come out now as the next step will be spring high school tryoutswhere it doesn't matter about grad year or holdbacks, everyone on the equal high school field. Let the kids make the teams they deserve.

Neither team the best of the best. Good teams but not anything to legitimize yourself with. Sorry if your guy waited years to make the Crabs and when he final makes it, it is only because they lost players and needed to backfill from a smaller than most years tryout pools.

Sorry that you don't have any skin in the game anymore, but you certainly aren't legitimizing yourself by trolling top 10 team threads.

Hmm...guess those two teams have slipped as well. Dumbo...are you seven?

"My kid plays on that team and thy are very good..I'm totally in the dark on this..please share your wisdom if you are saying that every win should have an asterisk attached.."

This was confirmed to me by friends of the kid's family. Their kids go to school with your player. I do not feel right putting the name on this site but he is a middie and one of your best.

Ignore this joker who has nothing left to do but waste time attacking another family and a kid. If they had any skin left in the game at this level, they wouldn't be complaining. Rules are rules, and until the rules change, you'll have some age differences. Whether there was an advantage or not at the middle school level is irrelevant now, as this age group is in HS. If someone doesn't like the rules, grad year vs. age, etc.. blah blah blah, go do something about it, or simply STFU, because the system drives the issue, not the players that play within it..

Not an accurate statement. Not true at all.

Why continue to make up excuses...why? This is a talented group of young men who play together as a team. Not one kid is in 7th grade...not one!

People are funny...They always need a way to justify why a team is better than the other...This forum is irrelevant in the true lacrosse world...The Crabs 2023 team is really really really good. The only advantage they have is that the play lacrosse 11 months out of the year and practice from August to July

But 1/2 of the team should be...you can not defend your self against the fact that the Crabs are notorious with hold backs. Your right it is the systems fault not the kids (although it has to be awkward repeating a grade) ...until tournaments decide to use DOB and not grade it is what it is.

You would get not argument if you said he was old enough to be in 7th grade. I highly doubt that he actually is in 7th grade. Though I believe the 2022's had a 7th grader on the team last year who is now on another club's 8th grade team.

Whether they have a 7th Grader or not they will need more. They beat Next Level by just 1. Seriously Next Level.

This is not a holdback. The kid is in 7th grade. Last year he was on the team as a 6th grader when the league was for 5th graders. Everyone knows they are littered with holdbacks. This is the next step in the Crabs cheatbook. Basically, we don't care what grade you are in. Just tell us what grade you want to play against and we are ok with it.

This is true. The kid was on flat brim's 5th grade Looneys team when he was in 6th grade. The kid has been supposedly reclassing for 3 years now but hasn't and is in 7th grade this year. Not sure how they have gotten away with this for so long. Reclassing is one thing, but when you are even cheating the grade based system, that is actually violating the rules.

BS, just stop. Seriously, take a deep look in the mirror and just stop. There is no such thing as holdbacks anymore, just kids with better educations that went to pre-first. Stop whining. Go enjoy mediocrity.

You do realize that Crabs is not a school correct? There is a tryout and the best kids make the team. There is not a school placement counselor at the tryout registration table. Looneys - not a school. FCA - not a school either. Private school kids tend to be an average of a year older because they do prefirst, or sometimes repeat a grade prior to HS, because they are super behind when they transfer into a class that has kids that basically all did prefirst. So the lax clubs you hate, that are flooded with private school kids, are not cheating, they just pick up the best kids at tryouts (go figure, the typically bigger/stronger kids). You have an issue with the system, but you criticize the clubs. Should clubs not take the best kids that qualify within the rules?

It's not BS. I am not the OP, but I can confirm that there has been a kid playing for flat brim since Tyker rec lacrosse that is currently in 7th grade. I know because my he was in my sons class who is a 2022. He has not reclassed, though his parents have said year after year that he is going to. I'm sure he will repeat 8th grade somewhere but you shouldn't be allowed to play down because he "expects" to graduate in 2023. Now we are really starting to bend the rules here. He would be very undersized for 2022 but he is very good playing against 2023's that are his size. Holdbacks are one thing, but this is flat out cheating and they should forfeit every game they play until the kid does reclass or is moved up to the 2022 team where he belongs.

If this is true..lacrosse cant go much lower.. The whole grade base BS of playing down is out of control.

Says the parent of a Crab holdback, who most likely didn't even hold back in pre 1 but more like 7th or 8th grade.

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Crabs 2023 does not have a single kid in 7th grade. It just isn't true. Don't believe everything you read, find out for yourself. If you take the time to look into all of the club teams you will realize it is the same everywhere. Each club has kids that were held back for whatever reason. Each team has a few teams that are really good and some that are still developing. The Crabs 2023 is a very talented team with a group of talented players from all over Maryland. They practice and work together and it shows. More than half of these kids are still eleven. They are just a good team...that's it...that's all. Try worrying about developing your players and practice more. Try getting a really strong coaching staff dedicated to the development of each and every player. Stop making excuses as to why you think another team is winning and you are not.

That would be a first since Crabs teams are usually just run of the mill until kids start holding back and getting poached from other teams, usually around 8th grade.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Before when it was just age based teams, Crabs always had top talent. Yes, they have as many holdbacks as anyone, but dearth of talent has never been an issue.

You have a myopic view of the world.