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Gap is closing, next stop YJA!

Yes the one game was 7 3. Championship was by a goal. Relax. You must be the father on the defensive side with the mouth.

Who was standing next to the guy yelling at his daughter to go to goal every time she got the ball?

No one on elevate ever said to their daughter go to the goal every time she got it. Blantant lie

You just described 75% of the lax dads. Can you be more specific?

Gap is large and growing between YJ and the rest, just like every age group gone by. The Gap gets bigger and bigger every year. Even that struggling 2023 age group will surpass and pull away from the crowd. Just the way it is.

Tg beat te last 4 times they played ...and tg isn't that good Losing to Liberty last 5 times te is a top c level team .. It is what it is ..it's hard to improve a team when b team is so weak and no new players coming .. Just leaving

Huh? Are you saying Liberty is the top dog out of this bunch and TE is just a C team?

TE beat Liberty pretty easily and it is what it is...

Top Guns have never lost to Elevate in this age group. Elevate and TG have been playing against each other for the last 3 years and TG has always bet them. TG is way better than Elevate in this age group. Hands down! TG has more of a challenge against Liberty which is a better coached team in this age group than Elevate by far.

And none of them can beat YJ. Who cares.

sorry.....YJ keeps avoiding playing the LI teams

I guess the discussion was, if you are not going to YJ and live on LI what would be the next 2 best options in this age group. As a TG parent I would agree that TG and Liberty from a team, coaching and development perspective are the best 2 options.

That's funny. Why would we waste our time? We go play in tournaments against MD teams that can actually give us good games.

Mighty Skak has spoken! Sad thing is this team is more on par with the three other mentioned clubs and no longer offers any competition or a threat to MD teams

Is this the Skank team that drives to MD to lose. Ha. Nice

Skak lost to M&D twice, Skywalkers once and Stars in a short playoff game. That's it. Who did you beat this season?

How do you think you would do against those teams? Maybe if you weren't too scared to travel off the island you could find out.

There is very little development at TG, scratch that off your list. College coaches missing most of the spring. Poorly coached games. There are other options out there.

How quickly did the clubs reach out to players that made the cut during last weekends tryouts? Heros made cuts next day. TLC has always had a policy of announcing on Friday afternoon so the players don't find out while in school. Due to the truncated tryout schedule there seems to be a rush to lock in girls after tryouts? Any word from your team? How did the tryout go?

At least they come down and play us ,and always provide a competitive game . More than I can say about any other LI team.

Correct about TG. Most aggressive girls thrive in their system because every play is run for them. You can hear BS screaming from fields away "get it to....". Team play is not encouraged at TG

Skak has beaten all and every MD team at some point including M&D. Most of the MD teams have never beaten them. Much respect for all off the MD teams, great to play them so frequently. Sad part here is I know this likely isn't a parent from one of the MD teams anyway, but a jealous LI rival who seriously has no idea what's going on.

Who did Skak beat this year worth mentioning? Is it true M&D flipped their offense and defense and pulled their goalie in the second half the last time they played?

From a Skywalker parent the Skak team was the best team on Long Island we've played this past year. Always great competition. Looking forward to seeing how our 6 new additions fit in and help us raise the bar the 2016/2017 season. The second day of tryouts was shortened due to storms in the area, but enough time for us to forecast some nice new additions.

Who else did you play from LI?

They beat elevate at national draw championship game 6 3

In a 20 minute game playoff game.

Skywalkers also beat Leg a (see) 8-4 in a full game.

M&D Rosters out. Doesn't look like any of the score of top players that were supposedly moving to M&D made the black team. No girls cut and only addition came from M&D Red.

There were a lot of girls there. Guess the Red team should be much improved.

Aren't they all 20 min playoff games in most these tournaments?

Are you that insecure that you need to qualify the loss by saying it was only a 20m game? Bet you never tell anyone when you win a playoff that it was only a 20m game?

I guess point is, 6-3 in a 20 minute game is about the equivalent of a 14-7 full game. All in the perspective. Anyone can win a 20 min game. Stars lost to M&D by 1 in a 20 minute championship this summer and then lost to the 15-1 six days later in a full game.

Only if they accept the spots. Not talking about these girls in particular, but lots of parents who can't handle being on the B team and will stay where they are on lesser A team instead.

I think they were saying they won the game, just the margin would have been much larger in a full game.

There's something to be said for that and it's just not about not being able to handle being being on a B team. I don't care what anyone says but the typical gap between the A and B team is significant. B teams are always second fiddle and usually play in much lesser brackets. I wouldn't fault anyone for leaving or not accepting a B roster spot

Agreed, but it's very short-sighted to play on C2 or Diamonds or another club like that as opposed to one of the top 3's B teams. M&D, Skywalkers and Heros have top coaches and know how to get their girls recruited. Their B teams play in the same tournaments as the A teams for the most part, where the lower tier A teams play in lesser tournaments with minimal college coaches watching. Parents need to check their egos and do what's best for the development of their daughters. Nothing wrong with being on M&D Red, Skywalkers White or Heros White. Those teams could probably beat a lot of the A teams out there.

Again, it's thinking like that that dooms your daughters. Heros, M&D and Skywalkers B teams were all at Lax for the Cure, Nike G8, etc last year. Countless coaches there. C2, Diamonds, Integrity, etc no where to be found. If you think you are better off in the A division of some random tournament they you are in a "lower bracket" at the biggest recruiting tournaments of the summer I feel sorry for you. This is obviously your first time through this process. Obviously the B girls aren't going to MD or UNC. But guess what, neither are the girls playing A on the lesser clubs.

Guessing you feel passionate about your B team, good for you. Don't tell me that my daughter is doomed because I don't want to be on your crappy B team and fault others for looking elsewhere as well.. And yes, I saw M&D and SW B teams this summer and there is no comparison to their A teams, it was night and day.

Great parenting. The message to your kid? If things don't go your way, give up and try another route. Heaven forbid the message is......accept what you've been given and work to improve.

You ever see that TV commercial series with the "settlers" family. Why settle for cable? Why settle for M&D red?

That is ridiculous. If they were quitting the sport you might have a point, but selecting which team you want to participate with and that you think is best for your child is exactly the right thing to do. Heck, the clubs get to choose which players they want and they get to change them each year if the like. Shouldn't the parent/player/consumer have the same exact option?

Thanks Dr Spock but in this case you have it wrong. Kid is already on a A team but tried out for one of the premier clubs and made the B team. Rather than play for the new clubs B team wants to stay where she. So by your logic every kid should accept a spot no matter what and us parents should just tell them to accept it and work harder? What about the kid that gets demoted to a B team after playing on the A team for several years? The good parents should just tell them it's ok and just work harder and accept the hand you were dealt? Sorry but if I had just accepted every bad hand I was dealt I wouldn't have time to waste replying to stupid people on this forum right now