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It's the start of the Fall 2016/Spring 2017 season. Use this thread for your posts regarding this age group

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Top NOVA 2020 teams and reasons to go -
Blackwolf -
Pro: commit to D1 programs consistently; best practices in the area, including opportunity to practice against HS D1-committed players

Con: Not sure about which tournaments they attend; not many games; unsure who is on roster

Madlax -

Pro: go to every tournament that they should; get lots of game experience if Capital/National; open roster process for selection

Con: Potential bait and switch on new structure of not naming to specific teams; coaching and practice levels inconsistent

VLC -

Pro: Affiliated with Crabs so may get boost from NLF exposure

Con: Inconsistent coaching; lack of game/tournament play; not enough practice time

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Good analysis on all clubs. I would add a con for BW in location at St. John's if this is for the nova crowd....Trig is always very engaged though, but maybe not for multi sport athletes. I would also add a con for madlax in $ spent but you do get more for those dollars. The con on VLC's inconsistent coaching is a stinger but true....3 head coaches for 2020's last year and the 2019's lost their head coach at the start of the summer as well. 2020's will be set with DiCamillio if he in fact stays with them...big IF because he and Langley are the heart and soul of that club. Murky picture for sure but those are the only legit choices in nova for now if you even call BW a nova club anymore.

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Bringing this up.
Crush are better than the Turtles.
Let the games begin

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I need to see a 6 goal W over Looney's before I can be convinced of that. I think it's more like 10-8 Crush as Fogo will limit their fast breaks and overall possessions

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Giving too much credit to looneys. Not consistent.

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Are DiCo or Langley going somewhere?

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Are DiCo or Langley going somewhere?


Haven't heard that rumor. DiCo just signed on to coach VLC 2020 since the '17s are done and graduating. I suspect Langley will stay put as well.

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Those 2 are great coaches and are the heart and soul of the club....they aren't going anywhere. Langley is 2018 and Dico is 2020. 2019 lost their coach early in the summer but have a legit head coach I think.

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Are DiCo or Langley going somewhere?


No. That was just a stupid rumor some Madlax dad started.

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Hawks kid just committed to Maryland. Talented player, congrats to him

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Hawks kid just committed to Maryland. Talented player, congrats to him


Yes he is. All 3 2020 kids from Maryland who committed to UMD are really good.

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Ok Hawks dads.. Mom... whatever

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Hawks kid just committed to Maryland. Talented player, congrats to him


Yes he is. All 3 2020 kids from Maryland who committed to UMD are really good.


MD 2020s:

MARYLAND TERRAPINS
Jack Koras, M, Loyola Blakefield (Md.) / FCA Maryland
Jackson Marshall, G, Calvert Hall (Md.) / FCA Maryland
Alexander Wicks, M, St. Mary’s (Md.) / Annapolis Hawks

MICHIGAN WOLVERINES
Rory Jones, A, Calvert Hall (Md.) / FCA Maryland

NORTH CAROLINA TAR HEELS
Daniel Kelly, A, Calvert Hall (Md.) / FCA Maryland
Gable Braun, F/O, McDonogh (Md.) / Looney’s
Cole Herbert, M, Calvert Hall (Md.) / Baltimore Crabs
Jack Witherspoon, D, Gilman (Md.) / Baltimore Crabs
Blake Gable, D, Boys’ Latin (Md.) / Looney’s
Michael Lizzio, M, St. Andrew’s (Fla.) / Looney’s
Max Cooney, D, Georgetown Prep (Md.) / Baltimore Crabs


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Hawks kid just committed to Maryland. Talented player, congrats to him


Yes he is. All 3 2020 kids from Maryland who committed to UMD are really good.


MD 2020s:

MARYLAND TERRAPINS
Jack Koras, M, Loyola Blakefield (Md.) / FCA Maryland
Jackson Marshall, G, Calvert Hall (Md.) / FCA Maryland
Alexander Wicks, M, St. Mary’s (Md.) / Annapolis Hawks

MICHIGAN WOLVERINES
Rory Jones, A, Calvert Hall (Md.) / FCA Maryland

NORTH CAROLINA TAR HEELS
Daniel Kelly, A, Calvert Hall (Md.) / FCA Maryland
Gable Braun, F/O, McDonogh (Md.) / Looney’s
Cole Herbert, M, Calvert Hall (Md.) / Baltimore Crabs
Jack Witherspoon, D, Gilman (Md.) / Baltimore Crabs
Blake Gable, D, Boys’ Latin (Md.) / Looney’s
Michael Lizzio, M, St. Andrew’s (Fla.) / Looney’s
Max Cooney, D, Georgetown Prep (Md.) / Baltimore Crabs



If Calvert Hall doesn't bring home a couple MIAA'ships in the next couple years, Coach Kelly may be on the hot seat.

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A lot more movement between the Baltimore teams then I would've thought (crabs, fca, looneys, and Hawks)

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Ok Hawks dads.. Mom... whatever


Interestingly enough the coaches son and rarely came off field. It paid off. Talented but not a standout and about the same talent level of many other local 2020 players.

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A lot more movement between the Baltimore teams then I would've thought (crabs, fca, looneys, and Hawks)


Kids are always searching for something they think is better and parents are not teaching them loyalty to teams or team mates. Does not really matter as they are getting into high school - real talent will rise no matter what elite team they are on. Grass is not always greener. Good luck to all the 2020s!

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A lot more movement between the Baltimore teams then I would've thought (crabs, fca, looneys, and Hawks)


Kids are always searching for something they think is better and parents are not teaching them loyalty to teams or team mates. Does not really matter as they are getting into high school - real talent will rise no matter what elite team they are on. Grass is not always greener. Good luck to all the 2020s!


Some of the programs are better at getting kids recruited. Why would a kid not want to go to a team that is better and they'll get more looks? People also do it to better position themselves for high school lacrosse.

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Hawks kid just committed to Maryland. Talented player, congrats to him


Yes he is. All 3 2020 kids from Maryland who committed to UMD are really good.


MD 2020s:

MARYLAND TERRAPINS
Jack Koras, M, Loyola Blakefield (Md.) / FCA Maryland
Jackson Marshall, G, Calvert Hall (Md.) / FCA Maryland
Alexander Wicks, M, St. Mary’s (Md.) / Annapolis Hawks

MICHIGAN WOLVERINES
Rory Jones, A, Calvert Hall (Md.) / FCA Maryland

NORTH CAROLINA TAR HEELS
Daniel Kelly, A, Calvert Hall (Md.) / FCA Maryland
Gable Braun, F/O, McDonogh (Md.) / Looney’s
Cole Herbert, M, Calvert Hall (Md.) / Baltimore Crabs
Jack Witherspoon, D, Gilman (Md.) / Baltimore Crabs
Blake Gable, D, Boys’ Latin (Md.) / Looney’s
Michael Lizzio, M, St. Andrew’s (Fla.) / Looney’s
Max Cooney, D, Georgetown Prep (Md.) / Baltimore Crabs



What happens to some of these kids when two-three years from now other kids surpass them? There is some real talent committed in the 2020 class but just as many political moves so curious what the schools do in 3 years when these kids are no longer the best and they have already committed their full 2020 allotment? On and off field UMD and UNC competing who can grabs more youngsters. Poor kids.

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Are any of UNC's commits not Holdbacks?

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Are any of UNC's commits not Holdbacks?


Shhh don't let the secret out.

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Are any of UNC's commits not Holdbacks?
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Crabs Defender headed to GP is a May 2001 birthday. Holdback.

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Most all of them!

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I think mixed but regardless what an incredible opportunity at a top academic university. Business school ranked higher then ND, Colombia etc.. Congrats boys!

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Are any of UNC's commits not Holdbacks?
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Crabs Defender headed to GP is a May 2001 birthday. Holdback.

My 2019 son is April 7th of 2001. he is on the younger side but not the youngest for a 2019

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Are any of UNC's commits not Holdbacks?


Every player on the list is older. Not just UNC's. And people still think that holding kids back isn't working of these kids/parents?

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Please don't compare UNC to ND and Columbia...for 20 years, some employees at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill knowingly steered about 1,500 athletes toward no-show courses that never met and were not taught by any faculty members, and in which the only work required was a single research paper that received a high grade no matter the content.

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Are any of UNC's commits not Holdbacks?


Every player on the list is older. Not just UNC's. And people still think that holding kids back isn't working of these kids/parents?


Actually, the LI kids are grade appropriate, some even on the younger side for LI 2020. Talent speaks for itself- if it's there, no need to reclass. I suspect many of the holdbacks could have gotten committed if they stayed grade appropriate, but someone lacked faith in their abilities and steered them down a grade.

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You nailed it. Post of the year!!

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Hawks kid is on age

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Are any of UNC's commits not Holdbacks?


Every player on the list is older. Not just UNC's. And people still think that holding kids back isn't working of these kids/parents?


Actually, the LI kids are grade appropriate, some even on the younger side for LI 2020. Talent speaks for itself- if it's there, no need to reclass. I suspect many of the holdbacks could have gotten committed if they stayed grade appropriate, but someone lacked faith in their abilities and steered them down a grade.
Damn Jealous parents....Not every kid on this list is a holdback....Idiots

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Please don't compare UNC to ND and Columbia...for 20 years, some employees at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill knowingly steered about 1,500 athletes toward no-show courses that never met and were not taught by any faculty members, and in which the only work required was a single research paper that received a high grade no matter the content.


Please don't insult the University of Nose Candy


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Yup - I'm jealous of an imaginary offer with little or no money attached. Talk to you in 3 years and we will see where things stand.

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I use to think 50% of the people on this forum were complete fkn Morons ..now I'm convinced it's closer to 80%. Every comment is from a bigger idiot then the previous one.. Yeah ...I'm talking about you..

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I use to think 50% of the people on this forum were complete fkn Morons ..now I'm convinced it's closer to 80%. Every comment is from a bigger idiot then the previous one.. Yeah ...I'm talking about you..


With this post you seem to have proven you are the biggest but not the best moron.

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I'm part of the 80% and have two kids playing D1 - one at an Ivy and 1 at a top 20. Both are on age. I win. Keep playing your silly little holdback/early recruiting game. It's ruing the sport. Age based is coming....

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Hawks kid is on age


You saying his bday on UA Underclass website is wrong?

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You sir are the def of a total d-Bag. Trolling this forum with two commits. Yeah... Loser

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I'm part of the 80% and have two kids playing D1 - one at an Ivy and 1 at a top 20. Both are on age. I win. Keep playing your silly little holdback/early recruiting game. It's ruing the sport. Age based is coming....


As the parent of a younger, on age kid, I wish your remark of "age based is coming" was true - but I don't see it. I firmly believe grade based will remain.

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