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I agree. And blame the college coaches for accepting them

Saw the two Brentwood stars, 91 kid and old leg girl, speed training together. I guess you could say daddy coach only coaches who he wants to.

Yup! Disgusting abuse of power coming out of the mouths of those claiming to "grow the game" FYI: you just shamed the game. And then brag about it on social media? Are you freaking kidding? News Flash: those kids will not be the early recruits, but you just promoted early recruiting????

What are you talking about. Take your meds. Truth is there are many average 2020 already committed so your probably wrong! When has that org spoke badly about early recruiting ? Answer : never Kids went to a college campus watched a football game and played some lacrosse. Hmm sounds like someone's boy isn't getting recruited as hard as daddy wishes. Relax and enjoy YOUR boy and not worry about everyone else. That's the problem , everyone is worried what everyone else's son is doing instead of focusing on their own.

Not worried about my son, he's doing just fine in the recruiting process. The problem is that these very average 2021 kids took spots at an invitation only prospect day. These kids brought the level down. There are plenty of kids in the 2020 and 2019 age group who could have actually benefitted from the visit. Check twitter, you will see that this organizations leaders have made comments against early recruiting, then send 2021 kids to prospect camp. Funny, they have also aloud the reclassing of some very good 2020 kids who will now bump loyal 2021 kids from their teams. Hypocrites, cheaters, bad for the sport.

Some of the 2020s that were there were no what I would consider top tier.

Hearing Express Terps one of the coaches sons (not the St. A's coach) has just reemerged as a '21. Pathetic.

McA ?

Yes, Crush, pitiful

This is lacrosse people not football. Size is not a factor. In fact many of the best attackman are small as are many top midfielders, while I do not think size matters at attck perhaps it does more in the midfield. The top attack in the world are McArdle Jordan wolf Rob Pannell Joey Sankey Will Manny, Steele Stanwick. the list goes on and on Attacking a kid is weak. That boy as well as the express player will both be more than fine ! Because of the trend and success of smaller attackman it will effect the defensive positioning as well .

This is lacrosse people not football. Size is not a factor. In fact many of the best attackman are small as are many top midfielders, while I do not think size matters at attck perhaps it does more in the midfield. The top attack in the world are McArdle Jordan wolf Rob Pannell Joey Sankey Will Manny, Steele Stanwick. the list goes on and on Attacking a kid is weak. That boy as well as the express player will both be more than fine ! Because of the trend and success of smaller attackman it will effect the defensive positioning as well .

This is lacrosse people not football. Size is not a factor. In fact many of the best attackman are small as are many top midfielders, while I do not think size matters at attck perhaps it does more in the midfield. The top attack in the world are McArdle Jordan wolf Rob Pannell Joey Sankey Will Manny, Steele Stanwick. the list goes on and on Attacking a kid is weak. That boy as well as the express player will both be more than fine ! Because of the trend and success of smaller attackman it will effect the defensive positioning as well .

Uhhh did you happen notice the best attackman (best Lacrosse player) in D1 last year? Molloy, He's 6'2" 235. The next best attackman is Rambo from MD 6'1" 220, Best Rookie attack? Kid from Loyola 6'3" 215, And so on and so on. These guys are match up nightmares for the best Defensemen in the country. Cannot be left one on one. Always doubled. The trend is definitely not to go small. Just the opposite. Can the smaller guys compete, sure. But trend is definitely towards the bigger man.

Keep telling yourself size is not a matter. So you named a few undersized attack men with amazing skill. Not many young men can do what those few can ever do. Plan B is take the kids who are big with very good skill . Don't try and justify lack of size. When the option is there , always go bigger

I'd take a fast undersized kid with stick skills and a high IQ over a big meathead any day of the week.

I'd take a fast undersized kid with stick skills and a high IQ over a big meathead any day of the week.

The two players that sparked this from crush and express are both midfielders so it doesn't apply to them but to keep w convo for every Dylan Molloy there is a much better track record for smaller smarter more skilled attackman That's why Molloy is the exception most and I say most of the most successful attackman the past 5/6 years have been smaller ones. Even a smaller sample size. Top three attackman NCAA lacrosse this year. Molloy Kavanaugh, Donoghue. (2 of which 5'8 ) great topic for conversation because there is NO answer. Success has and will continue to be had by both types

I guess you didn't notice the kid from UNC. Cloutier, basically dismantled MD. 6'0" 215. Number 1 attack Molloy 6'2" 235, #2 Cloutier 6'0" 215, #3 Rambo 6'1 220, #4 Spencer 6'3" 200... Big guys are winning awards and Championships. Oh and Lyle Thompson also a 6 footer. Sorry.

Except if the big meat head is a 6'3" 225 Lb. physical specimen and freak athlete.

LOL. Lets be honest with ourselves. If you're 6'3" 225 and a FREAK athlete you're taking a full ride for a money sport (i.e. football). Lacrosse is a nice letter and something to do in the spring.

Size matters, sure. Sure does speed, agility, IQ and skill. For every Malloy there is a Sankey. You honestly think coaches or parents are holding their kids back because of their size? No. Simply leveraging the system to gain an advantage and play down vs. up. In other words, make me look good vs. weaker more developed players. HS will equalize it all ...

So you are fast to call the small kid fast , great stick skill , high IQ but the big athlete is a meathead ?? I will sound like you .... I would rather take the big , tall , lean , fast and powerful , high IQ , great stick skill player then a small pipsqueek any day.
Size does matter !! ( don't get excited now !!!)

I guess you didn't notice the kid from UNC. Cloutier, basically dismantled MD. 6'0" 215. Number 1 attack Molloy 6'2" 235, #2 Cloutier 6'0" 215, #3 Rambo 6'1 220, #4 Spencer 6'3" 200... Big guys are winning awards and Championships. Oh and Lyle Thompson also a 6 footer. Sorry.