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When we signed up TG claimed that they did not look at black and purple as A and B, but their goal was to have two competitive teams. This was not what they got - at least for our year. Purple was not even competitive at most of the tournaments - meanwhile black was always in the finals. Given their philosophy we really were scrathing our heads over why they even bothered having purple - and then not coaching it and trying to develop it. Maybe this has been different for other years - but this was our experience.

If you want your daughter to make the black team it's very easy. 1) Have her insist on taking the draw. They NEVER do it doing practice (and by the way the 2017 never scrimmaged at a practice-not once)and tell her to go right to the goal. She doesn't have to pass to anyone and won't be corrected. 2) Follow Mr. Smith around like a duckling and quack in his ear. 3)Live in one of the Islips. Glad I saved my $35, see you in Maryland.

Really? Their goalies are pretty good.

When we signed up TG claimed that they did not look at black and purple as A and B, but their goal was to have two competitive teams. This was not what they got - at least for our year. Purple was not even competitive at most of the tournaments - meanwhile black was always in the finals. Given their philosophy we really were scrathing our heads over why they even bothered having purple - and then not coaching it and trying to develop it. Maybe this has been different for other years - but this was our experience.

If you want your daughter to make the black team it's very easy. 1) Have her insist on taking the draw. They NEVER do it doing practice (and by the way the 2017 never scrimmaged at a practice-not once)and tell her to go right to the goal. She doesn't have to pass to anyone and won't be corrected. 2) Follow Mr. Smith around like a duckling and quack in his ear. 3)Live in one of the Islips. Glad I saved my $35, see you in Maryland.

2019 age group can barely form 2 teams let alone 2 competitive teams.Their black 2019 has a very good starting group but there was a huge drop off in talent with the backups last year ,which could have been because many of the backups were in fact 2020.Did not see much new talent to replace those younger kids who were moved down so in my opinion the drop off will be even more steep this year.Hopefully some of those kids develop over the years to make a more balanced team.

My first experience with travel lacrosse. My daughter and her friends traveled a pretty long distance to try out for TG. They gave their best, and made black. None of this BS you speak of. You want your daughter to make black, tell her to work hard and she's got a chance.

My first experience with travel lacrosse. My daughter and her friends traveled a pretty long distance to try out for TG. They gave their best, and made black. None of this BS you speak of. You want your daughter to make black, tell her to work hard and she's got a chance.

Don't worry your daughter will be moved to purple soon enough,let me guess you made black on the youngest level.Wait till all the nonsense starts ,the private lessons with the coach or someone in power ,then they will replace your daughter with someone from your coaches home school.Good luck all the hard work in the world doesn't trump connections and it sounds as if you and your daughter have none.

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Don't worry your daughter will be moved to purple soon enough,let me guess you made black on the youngest level.Wait till all the nonsense starts ,the private lessons with the coach or someone in power ,then they will replace your daughter with someone from your coaches home school.Good luck all the hard work in the world doesn't trump connections and it sounds as if you and your daughter have none.

My first experience with travel lacrosse. My daughter and her friends traveled a pretty long distance to try out for TG. They gave their best, and made black. None of this BS you speak of. You want your daughter to make black, tell her to work hard and she's got a chance.

Don't worry your daughter will be moved to purple soon enough,let me guess you made black on the youngest level.Wait till all the nonsense starts ,the private lessons with the coach or someone in power ,then they will replace your daughter with someone from your coaches home school.Good luck all the hard work in the world doesn't trump connections and it sounds as if you and your daughter have none.

My daughter was on purple last year.We had an awesome time bonding with the parents and the girls all got along. I was able to watch quite a few black games and while they had talent I couldn't help but feel there was no "chemistry" amongst the girls. I am happy to say my daughter made purple again and I look forward to meeting new friends. I am hearing that many girls from both teams were cut, and while it saddens me I believe the intent is to make 2 strong "A" teams. Good luck to all of the girls where ever they land.

2019 age group can barely form 2 teams let alone 2 competitive teams.Their black 2019 has a very good starting group but there was a huge drop off in talent with the backups last year ,which could have been because many of the backups were in fact 2020.Did not see much new talent to replace those younger kids who were moved down so in my opinion the drop off will be even more steep this year.Hopefully some of those kids develop over the years to make a more balanced team.

When there is turnover on one of the black teams, how likely are kids to actually move up from purple to black vesus, kids new to the program filling spots on the black teams?

You're assuming a lot here aren't you. Why so bitter, certainly must be better things to do with your time than to assume you know anything about my daughter or most other girls here. If there are these lessons to be learned I will learn them i suppose, but I will be the judge of all this. Your bad experience is none of my concern, I've heard the same stories from other parents, and I've heard great experiences from even others. You sound like a parent whose daughter got moved from black to purple and are upset about it. There are only two possible reasons for that to happen, 1) she just isn't as good as you think she is, or 2) what you say is true.
If it happens to my daughter I'll move on and won't spend a lot of time on a message board posting anonymously to strangers.
You are right , I don't have any connections...none at all. So my daughter earned her own shot and it is on her to work hard and keep that spot. I don't teach my child that it's someone else's fault if she doesn't succeed, I hope you don't either.

You are the one making assumptions.Stating there was none of the bs that people speak of yet you are new to travel lacrosse so how would you know.You also assume I know little about your daughter when I bet I know more then you think.Not the best player on her town team but you think she might be.Town team has done very well but have not really tested themselves.Been paying for private lessons because you think your town coach either doesn't do enough for your child, isn't good enough for your child,always complaining on the sideline about your town coach even after they have done more for your child in lacrosse then you have,made TG top team supposedly wo connections ,doubt it.I know more then you think .

You are the one making assumptions.Stating there was none of the bs that people speak of yet you are new to travel lacrosse so how would you know.You also assume I know little about your daughter when I bet I know more then you think.Not the best player on her town team but you think she might be.Town team has done very well but have not really tested themselves.Been paying for private lessons because you think your town coach either doesn't do enough for your child, isn't good enough for your child,always complaining on the sideline about your town coach even after they have done more for your child in lacrosse then you have,made TG top team supposedly wo connections ,doubt it.I know more then you think .

My first experience with travel lacrosse. My daughter and her friends traveled a pretty long distance to try out for TG. They gave their best, and made black. None of this BS you speak of. You want your daughter to make black, tell her to work hard and she's got a chance.

Good luck to your fellow TG parents on 2020 ,kid has not been on the team for 2 minutes and daddy is already giving out advice.Let me try this assumption business, your town coach cannot stand you because all you do on the sidelines is complain about him and his kid, you think the better kids on the team are ball hogs.You have threatened to leave your town team or have even played for other teams within your town or other towns teams.You pay your kid for goals but not assists or ground balls.You should take your child to YJ so you fit in with those parents although you will not because there is a good chance she does not make the top team over there.

I just wanna kick the 6th grade Middle Country girls butts this year!

who said anything about 2020? I wish your daughter the best, I'm done with this.

My first experience with travel lacrosse. My daughter and her friends traveled a pretty long distance to try out for TG. They gave their best, and made black. None of this BS you speak of. You want your daughter to make black, tell her to work hard and she's got a chance.

I think it's obvious that teams were formed 8 days after tryouts, after a booze vacation. How could the prospects be fresh in anyones head after that?? Were last years coaches given any input? Is TG so desperate to have former YJ on the 17/18 teams that they may have cut their nose to spite their face? Let's just hope we dont have another group of girls who don't pass. And yes, my daughter is on black, just very dissapointed at a few of the girls who were moved, not all-and VERY surprised at 1 who stayed. New additions already flapping there traps about how after the season they will have to make room for more of their friends who didn't try out. Time will tell. To the girls who were moved to purple- you still have fans on black and we intend on cheering you on at every game.

So, are you saying that 2017 purple is getting some strong players/good people from last year's black team?

I think it's obvious that teams were formed 8 days after tryouts, after a booze vacation. How could the prospects be fresh in anyones head after that?? Were last years coaches given any input? Is TG so desperate to have former YJ on the 17/18 teams that they may have cut their nose to spite their face? Let's just hope we dont have another group of girls who don't pass. And yes, my daughter is on black, just very dissapointed at a few of the girls who were moved, not all-and VERY surprised at 1 who stayed. New additions already flapping there traps about how after the season they will have to make room for more of their friends who didn't try out. Time will tell. To the girls who were moved to purple- you still have fans on black and we intend on cheering you on at every game.

I think it's obvious that teams were formed 8 days after tryouts, after a booze vacation. How could the prospects be fresh in anyones head after that?? Were last years coaches given any input? Is TG so desperate to have former YJ on the 17/18 teams that they may have cut their nose to spite their face? Let's just hope we dont have another group of girls who don't pass. And yes, my daughter is on black, just very dissapointed at a few of the girls who were moved, not all-and VERY surprised at 1 who stayed. New additions already flapping there traps about how after the season they will have to make room for more of their friends who didn't try out. Time will tell. To the girls who were moved to purple- you still have fans on black and we intend on cheering you on at every game.

How nice , another example of TG parents welcoming all new players and ringing endorsement of those in charge.

So, are you saying that 2017 purple is getting some strong players/good people from last year's black team?

Go back to YJ, where you see the same exact stuff...

My daughter is on black again, and my understanding is we lost a smart offender and a strong defender, and we picked up girls who I remember from our town team but played for another big name travel team for past 2 years. I'm saying I wish them all a great season, hooping the tryout process gets more refined each year.

I think it's obvious that teams were formed 8 days after tryouts, after a booze vacation. How could the prospects be fresh in anyones head after that?? Were last years coaches given any input? Is TG so desperate to have former YJ on the 17/18 teams that they may have cut their nose to spite their face? Let's just hope we dont have another group of girls who don't pass. And yes, my daughter is on black, just very dissapointed at a few of the girls who were moved, not all-and VERY surprised at 1 who stayed. New additions already flapping there traps about how after the season they will have to make room for more of their friends who didn't try out. Time will tell. To the girls who were moved to purple- you still have fans on black and we intend on cheering you on at every game.

I would think so. Based on last season, it looked like 2017 was the black roster most in need of significant turnover/upgrades.