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If he plays for a top HS team expect 15 - 18% if he plays for a top club team he can expect 25% - figure another 5% for each inch over 6' tall and another 3% for each tenth of a second he runs under a 4.8 forty - so a 6' 3" LSM from WM who runs a 4.4 forty and plays for 91 extreme or turtles should be getting close to a full ride - I heard all this at 31 flavors the other day

I agree completely. Those with specific knowledge of what is happening inside the program should cite specific examples of wrongdoing so the rest of us can form our opinions based on the facts.

Otherwise people are just going to opine based on their own circumstances. Someone who has a son who is a starter on this or any team is going to side with the coach and feel that he should have the autonomy to run his team how he sees fit. Someone whose son is not a starter but feels should be is going to side with those who feel that the coach has some ulterior motive, whether it is a club conflict of interest or private lesson bribery or good old fashion parent [lacrosse] kissing.

Some actual facts would help a lot.

I agree with you about not getting fired because of playing time decisions, but what happens is the parents of the kids not getting playing time are the ones who find other things to complain about and while no one complaint will get a coach fired it is the culmination of the constant nagging that perhaps make the school district look to make a change. I doubt many coaches can stand up to the scrutiny of everything they say and do being reported on them.

you can do the math. D1 lax gets 12.6 scholarships. teams carry 40-50 players. some kids get more and some get none.

Ty

I am not sure if the current situation in Syo w/ JC is about playing time, complaining parents or a BOE that just wants to start fresh w/ a new coach. We players and parents are also aware that we have not been given all the info and probably never will be. I do know this. My son is not a starter on SYO and he will probably not be an "impact" player this coming year but he does contribute. The reason he is not a starter is not b/c of any bias from JC, it is b/c he is either
a. not good enough to start
b. not working hard enough in practice

the point is both this non starter parent and the non starter himself still support JC as the coach b/c in Syo it about more than starting and wins/losses. If you are part of the program you would know what I am talking about. Sure it is great if you start and get significant playing time but my son does contribute both in games and in practice.

Does anyone have a list of college coaches that will be at Hofstra Warrior this coming weekend, or know where a list is posted?

There weren't many there last year. In addition, it was very poorly run and scheduled. The majority of the coaches will be at the NXT Invatational in Philly at Stony Brook this weekend.

This US U19 tournament has got to be the silliest thing I've ever seen! Just painful to hear about! Surprised other countries would even be interested in participating. US players pounding their Chests at what? Sad part is that it's payed for by dues paid to an inept organization.

Let's give this a rest, I don't have anything positive or negative about JC..
Is he fair.. sometimes.
Is he tough on the players...sometimes
Is he ________ ... sometimes.
That's coaching, the only comment I have is that when he told me that "it was out of anyone's control" when asked about a specific player.
Is the action of the board just, that is what we need to find out. They (the board) should at least provide some details as to why so that, we as parents know why this is happening and stop assuming that other parents on the team are at fault. SYO parents are great at blaming and isolating other parents and players without knowing the entire background. SYO parents should band together in support of their players, each other and the coach and demand of the board more specifics of why this happened and not ASSume!
As for JL, he is a politician, he will lean towards what is the majority so that he can continue to be re-elected.

Good post, particularly about boy wonder on the board - full 180 from his position 3 years ago basically wanting to disband competitive sports. I think the BoE is in a tough situation, they know more then we ever will and because of privacy laws they can not tell us the "real" reason, just or unjust that led to their initial decision. People need to realize that lacrosse is a huge part of our and our kid's lives but a minor part of the school system and it has taken up a huge amount of time and resources the past three years. I hope everybody involved is worrying about all the kids best interest and not just their own.

The Manhasset decision is even more incredible than Syosset given the Manhasset coach had won 2 state championsships witnin the past decade.

agreed..like all high school sports these days..the parents are "the characters" there is very little character..

And in the last 6 years they've won 1 CC

He wasn't playing. Lotta talent on sidelines.

It's about time districts make moves.

The backstory is same as many other coaches who find themselves at the end of their tenure with the inability to write the Hollywood ending. Unfortunately this ending included too many complaints year after year which the board just couldn't ignore. [/quote]

Complaints that the BoD couldn't ignore? The BoD was voted in to make decisions that are in the best interest of the district. Not bend to the whim of a few whining parents. It happened in Shoreham Wading River, Sayville and now SYO. Completely spineless.
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The BoD made a decision that was in the best interest for the current and future student athletes. One that involved a popular resident and employee of the distinct, I'm sure no one involved took it lightly. [/quote]

High School sports should instill in a young adult the notion that life isn't fair, no one hands you ANYTHING, if you want something (starting on varsity for instance) you have to work harder than the next guy for that spot. Bottomline, varsity sports teaches kids about LIFE. I wanted to be the President of my firm. I scratched and clawed worked my tail off to get the job, it didn't happen...so I started my own firm and achieve the level of success I strove for. Its always natural selection, kids need to learn that as early as possible to be successful in life and varsity sports is a great environment to learn that. SWR, Sayville, SYO---lame. Coaches are too driven for success? We creating a generation of dependent children with no drive. [/quote]

Let's give this a rest, I don't have anything positive or negative about JC..
Is he fair.. sometimes.
Is he tough on the players...sometimes
Is he ________ ... sometimes.
That's coaching, the only comment I have is that when he told me that "it was out of anyone's control" when asked about a specific player.
Is the action of the board just, that is what we need to find out. They (the board) should at least provide some details as to why so that, we as parents know why this is happening and stop assuming that other parents on the team are at fault. SYO parents are great at blaming and isolating other parents and players without knowing the entire background. SYO parents should band together in support of their players, each other and the coach and demand of the board more specifics of why this happened and not ASSume!
As for JL, he is a politician, he will lean towards what is the majority so that he can continue to be re-elected. [/quote]

Just like SWR, Sayville, Manhasset, etc the BoD hides behind privacy laws. They can not be held accountable for their actions nor are they forced to explain their decisions. We've seen this happen over and over; vote in reasonable Board members, its the only answer.

really? hide behind the law that forbids the school board from disclosing personal information about employees? and your solution is to vote in reasonable board members that will disclose personal information? maybe the board of ed would rather spend it's time on the education and needs of the over 99% of the students that do not play varsity lacrosse. things like building maintenance, personnel, security ect. this is just lacrosse.

They are held accountable for their actions every three years when they run for election to make these decisions.

Thanks for the advice Josh!

That was my point. Vote in Board members who are aligned with your/our beliefs and values. That is the only way to hold them accountable...vote them out and your guy in.

Gets my vote.
Only one of them that will take a public stand.

Gets my vote.
Only one of them that will take a public stand.


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Read that letter carefully, especially the last sentence. It may not be as supportive as you think.

This is the same guy who was taking a public stand against competitive HS sports in favor of a HS sports program focusing more on participation a few years back.


At the end of the day the guy is a politician.

If you really want to post and defend the Manhasset coach, get some information first. Anyone who knows what went on understands why they needed to replace him. He made some really bad decisions surrounding two of his sons.

JL publicly in support of JC...

JL publicly in support of JL - this is along the lines of any article that starts out "Republicans oppose Obama ....." or " Israel oppose PLO" - the kid is too cute by half, he is just going to be opposed to the board and the board president every chance he gets, I would bet that if JC had never been told that he wasn't being renewed JL would have been leading the charge against him, like he did 3 years ago.

By the way JL stands for Josh lafazan and JC for John Calabria, I am not sure the need to use initials for public figures.

NILCA event is a horror!!!! Wast of time and money. If your kid is planning to go to community college it was the place to be. Said there would be 40 coaches more like 12.

Yup. New letter. Very clear.

They said 40 were signed up and it sounds like 1/2 of them showed and mostly D3

JL publicly in support of JC...


JL publicly in support of JL - this is along the lines of any article that starts out "Republicans oppose Obama ....." or " Israel oppose PLO" - the kid is too cute by half, he is just going to be opposed to the board and the board president every chance he gets, I would bet that if JC had never been told that he wasn't being renewed JL would have been leading the charge against him, like he did 3 years ago.

By the way JL stands for Josh lafazan and JC for John Calabria, I am not sure the need to use initials for public figures.

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And what does TR stand for? Teddy Roosevelt?

High School Boys team is 2-2 and has made it to the quarter finals. They beat New England and Pennsylvania lost to Illinois and Carolina by 1. Will be playing Ohio in the 1st game of the quarters. Good luck to all the boys.

You might want to use the quote function so readers might know what you are referring to.

d bag remark your child is too good to consider D3 ?

mostly community colleges. It was a really bad event. There were no D3 schools of significance. Lower end event. Kids were laughing about how bad it was.

not sure what that means...was the lacrosse bad or just the number and type of colleges watching?

Very appropriate!

Lacrosse was fine. Kids had fun. It was a pure money grab. 12 coaches showed not the 40 that were promised. The 12 were not from any of the top D1 programs and none from the top D3 programs. Most from community colleges. Best part was a certain Coach kept his team on the turf for all 3 games. Guess which field the coaches were on? You got it the turf. So if there was a school a player was so interested in they may have had only 1 chance to play in front of the 12 that were there.

Seems the High School Boys did a great job at the Brine event. Congratulations on winning the event. Way to represent Long Island boys. Now beat the Canadians in the Brogdan Cup.

How come nobody has complained about the Brine National try-out process? Was it run in a fair manner?

Congrats to the High School boys and also the 2020 and 22/23 winners. Long Island took 3 of the 4 boys divisions.

Nobody cares about Brine anymore it has become irrelevant because of more competitive showcases.