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It appeared that the rotations were limited. They even rotated their big middle to defense rather than take her out of the game. Interesting that 4 or 5 girls would not play at all

Didn't see any offensive players who had were even close to good enough to make YJ Skak, maybe a defender or two had skills close to YJ girls, but no one that really stood out.

They are both coming over its already done. They want their size and speed plus stick work can be improved with practice. [/quote]

What positions do these girls play? [/quote]

Didn't see any offensive players who had were even close to good enough to make YJ Skak, maybe a defender or two had skills close to YJ girls, but no one that really stood out. [/quote]

Keep telling yourself that hoping others believe it. Hopefully your daughter is not of the ones who gets replaced.

Who are Castellane/Raso ? Was Skak replaced or just not available today?

Worry about you own team and the Skywalkers parent that yelled at the M&D girls that "this is the team that's gonna kick your asses". Stay classy.

What positions do these girls play? [/quote]

Didn't see any offensive players who had were even close to good enough to make YJ Skak, maybe a defender or two had skills close to YJ girls, but no one that really stood out. [/quote]

Keep telling yourself that hoping others believe it. Hopefully your daughter is not of the ones who gets replaced.

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Well if my daughter gets replaced, it won't be by anyone from that team. Our 2nd team has more talent and disaplined players on it.

Makes you wonder if it's worth it to play for a club like M&D. Sure it's nice to have that affiliation with what's considered to be the top team in the country, but it certainly can't be much fun for the girls who spend the majority of the game watching. Whether they realize it or not, it establishes a pecking order among the girls. It has to be frustrating for them to know that they could be playing a ton of minutes elsewhere but instead they're stuck on the sideline.

Didn't see any offensive players who had were even close to good enough to make YJ Skak, maybe a defender or two had skills close to YJ girls, but no one that really stood out. [/quote]

Keep telling yourself that hoping others believe it. Hopefully your daughter is not of the ones who gets replaced.

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Well if my daughter gets replaced, it won't be by anyone from that team. Our 2nd team has more talent and disaplined players on it. [/quote]

The only thing your second team has is a great coach. There are no girls on that team that will be moving up if she finds what she needs on the outside. It's no secret they are aggressively looking to fill a few key spots and shake things up. Leg would have spanked this team hard.

It's definitely more worth it: to the parents rather than their daughters. They get to be "someone" for the weekend while their daughters potential is under utilized. God, they are a treat to watch. Not just M and D, but many of the other "name" clubs.

I agree 100% with the comment about "pecking order among the girls". When a team typically does not play all the girls on a team, with the emphasis on winning every game (like it matters), a pecking order does get established. I've been on many sidelines through the years, and as soon as a usual starter does not start or a player that typically plays almost 100% of a game comes out, the girls start talking. And, even worse, the parents start talking..."Why is Susie Superstar coming out/didn't start? I wonder what she did?" It's a cancerous path to go down, unless the team's emphasis is on winning. What that tells me is that the team admin is only using the "lesser talented" players as a way to pad their pockets with extra $$$.

Who is the one who is delusional? This club basher is delusional and obviously has an agenda. Pretty sad.

It's all good until their daughter is bumped off the team by new talent added to the club after tryouts

Thanks for your concern. First off, there were not 4 or 5 girls that didn't play at all in the championship. There were a couple in that game that did not play. Those girls also started and played most of some of the other games this weekend. M&D makes no secret that they are at every tournament to win and playing time is determined by how you played in practices leading up to that weekend and that playing time in the playoffs is determined by who played the best that weekend. Playing time changes throughout the year for girls based on the work they put in and their development. This is explained from the very beginning when you join. No one is forcing any girl to be on M&D. If they feel like they would be better off playing for someone else and playing more minutes they are free to do so. And as far as pecking order on the team, you have no idea what you are talking about. This is as close a team as you will ever see. And they play like it. The coach wouldn't allow it to be otherwise.

You guys are starting to actually sound worse then LI parents! Don't you have your own MD forum you can post this nonsense to?

It was nice not to pay tolls and sleep in your own bed. The girls had fun and saw some friends from neighboring clubs. Really no need for the" Mopping Up
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I just want everybody to know how disappointed and furious I am at one of the M&D parents. In the Skywalker game yesterday, one of the M&D fathers was on the sideline directly across from the Skywalker goalie. He was yelling at the SW goalie telling her that she's awful, she's terrible, and she can't stop any goals. What kind of awful human being would yell that at a 13-year-old girl? Is the win worth it? Are you that type of a bully with all the teams that you play against? I sincerely hope that this is not an example of all M&D parents.
The game was too amazing and exciting to watch for a parent to degrade like that.

That is an absolute lie and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Didn't see any offensive players who had were even close to good enough to make YJ Skak, maybe a defender or two had skills close to YJ girls, but no one that really stood out. [/quote]

Keep telling yourself that hoping others believe it. Hopefully your daughter is not of the ones who gets replaced.

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Well if my daughter gets replaced, it won't be by anyone from that team. Our 2nd team has more talent and disaplined players on it. [/quote]

I hate to break it to you but your second team stinks. Of all the girls that got demoted last year the best ones left for other A teams and of the girls that thought they should have been pulled up left for other A teams. So what's left? A few above average girls and a lot of C players. The only reason this team is winning games is because they are playing in the lowest possible brackets against the weakest teams. The gap between the top team and second team is huge. This is what's happening across all clubs because parents can accept being on a b team. same can be sad for M&D and Hereos. Everyone needs to be on an A team nowadays.

Having watched the Skywalker parents be total low life's and going on the field after the ref (right Mr. And Mrs, FAA, threatening the ref that he'll never fly again, after he told you and your husband to shut up with the nonsense you were spewing, then your tough guy husband went after two ladies who said everyone should calm down and verbally cursed them out, maybe we should dig out the video of your tantrum and post it on YouTube, so the people can see it for themselves). I highly doubt based on credibility alone. Totally laughable group of Cry out loud parents.

The parents of this M&D team are very positive towards all the girls they play. Especially opposing goalies. You will here parents yelling good save to the other goalies time and time again. No parent on the team would ever put down an opposing player. If they did and word got back to the coach there would be [lacrosse] to pay.

Maybe the Skywalkers parents should worry about their own that our telling 13 yr old girls that they are going to get their "Asses Kicked" during warm-ups. That actually did happen as opposed to the lie you put on here.

Boy, can't wait to have my daughter try out for either of your teams. What a disgrace. How old are you??

YJ will likely bring in about 4 new players this year. Just like they did last year, just as they will do next year. At least 1 or 2 will be from lower YJ teams, and yes many of those girls are more talented than most other LI clubs top teams. That leaves room for a couple or few from other clubs. The new addition girls are always welcomed, fit right in and mostly do very well. The competition for spots is between the new girls trying out, and I know of many of the very top girls from nearly every team are trying out. Every girl in this age group is a known commodity at this point. If there already was a back room deal for the two that you are talking about, so be it. But I would be surprised because I know of several top girls from several clubs planning on trying out who are way ahead of what I saw on the field. There are extremely fast, high IQ girls already extremely polished that can make an instant impact who will be looking to try out too. Every team Skak played this weekend there was talk of look out for this girl and that, they will be trying out this year. The few best players interested were not even at this tournament this weekend. Who ever makes the team, I'm sure it will make the team better and the girls and parents will look forward to welcoming them in.

You'll be missed

Says the man momma of the elite player thinking she is deserving of a spot on YJ. First you have to show up at tryouts, and I mean do something.......we'll see!

And guess what, this will equal more of the same! Beginning to think CR no longer cares about winning and being elite. Pulling up 2 non impact players and finding 2 on the outside will have no effect. Sorry but just calling it as I see it.

By the way... How many of those M&D girls will be playing on the older team when US Lacrosse enforces the 9/1/2002 - 8/31/2003 age group?

Two things. The answer to your question is 1. I assume you are a LI parent that buys the line of crap that you are fed by your club directors as to why you are losing to the teams from MD. Girls don't repeat grades like boys do, so you need to come up with another excuse. Maybe if the LI club directors could get along and start a spring league like MD has it would help. Instead, you guys choose to create and feed into a terrible lacrosse environment that helps no one other than parent egos.

Secondly, US Lacrosse has not power to enforce that. Those are just guidelines. Just like the guidelines were U9, U11, etc up until these new guidelines were released. They can only enforce those ages at tournaments they run and nobody goes to any of those anyway. Other than YJ and TG flying all over the country every year to play each other at the U15s.

Congrats to TE family on their undefeated win this weekend! Safe travels home

I'm sure M&D dad, the unofficial defender of America's Team, will be along with the numbers shortly.

How about cancelling insurance for any girl that does not meet the age requirement. US Lacrosse can influence the make-up of teams pretty quickly that way.

Enough about the parents from the M&D and Skywalker's game. Let's just appreciate that it was a fun game to watch and we finally have some competition. It hasn't been exciting without real competition. Hopefully Heros and Yellow Jackets will make some changes in the off-season to catch up with Skywalkers and us.

Um...Heros just beat Skywalkers at LFTC

Heros parents replying to Heros parents (pretending to be M&D parenrs). This forum is interesting and slightly psychotic.

There is one change that Heros is fixing to make that will help them for sure. Hint: We can take our earplugd out.

That Skywalker team that Heros beat at the LFTC was running on fumes by the time Heros played them. Skywalkers had already beaten Yellow Jackets and Stars earlier in the day. They also only had two subs. So how did Heros do against us?

Us? You're funny. You really think people believe you are an M&D parent? Considering M&D didn't lose a game all year, I guess Heros did the same as everyone else

Would equal more of the same? The team would sign up for that. They don't need to do anything drastic at try outs to create whatever effect you are looking for. Only three teams in the nation have ever beaten this team, they are all top teams and we beat them too. It is an exchange of wins and losses among the top teams. The team plays in all the top brackets at the top tournaments. They play probably 15-20 games against the top 5 teams in the nation through out the summer season. I am surprised they don't have more losses over the years as you would expect an even exchange of wins and losses as the top teams mix it up.

My guess is you are on here crying that the sky is falling because you are either jealous or looking to create waves of change to better your daughters chances of making the roster. You seem to think this team is so far out of contention that only exchanging 4 players isn't enough to save this team. You think that insulting CR, saying CR no longer cares about winning and being elite will spark her into action to make massive roster changes to a team that only needs some small tweaking, just like every team, every year needs small tweaking. If your daughter is trying out, I hope she is good, I hope she does make it and helps improve the team, we are always looking to better the team. There is no need to bash the team, they are not perfect, they have lost a few games, as has all the other top teams. Only one team has lost fewer, M&D, believe me, the sky is not falling.

The ONLY tweak I could see to Skak would be that their D needs to be bigger. They are consistently outmatched size wise and it's beginning to become an issue. They have several smaller girls on D, one is an absolute bulldog that makes up for her lack of size with insane tenacity. She is a fantastic player. But perhaps it's time to look for some taller, bigger D players on B or C that can move up? Or on one of the outside clubs (Express)? They seem to be having a hard time matching up against the bigger MD clubs. Just a thought. They are still a fantastic team, second best behind M&D. Nothing major needs to be done at all, they're all great players.

I think you are 100% spot on and Skak should swap out All the D (except your daughter the bulldog) with girls on the B and C team and this team will be rolling along and mowing down the MD teams once again.

No, but nice try with the sarcasm. My daughter is an attack on Bert's team so I could care less that you're getting manhandled on D by the bigger MD teams. If you can't see that as an "A" team parent then you're not watching close enough. I watched both games at LFTC (M&D and SW) and that stood out. There is a size mismatch in your zone, your D are all fantastic defenders but sometimes you can't do anything when a bigger girls wants the ball. There's a reason that the saying "you can't teach size" fits no matter what sport you're playing.