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What is the back story to Cherry being removed? I hate Manhasset, but the guy had a lot of success there for a long time.

P.S. Many Manhasset dads have been working that connection for years with financial support of the "32" club program. Will be interesting to see what happens with that and what kind of return on inverstment they get if/when a new coach is brought in.

The backstory is same as many other coaches who find themselves at the end of their tenure with the inability to write the Hollywood ending. Unfortunately this ending included too many complaints year after year which the board just couldn't ignore.

Complaints that the BoD couldn't ignore? The BoD was voted in to make decisions that are in the best interest of the district. Not bend to the whim of a few whining parents. It happened in Shoreham Wading River, Sayville and now SYO. Completely spineless.

You are all missing the point. The public school mission has nothing to do with wins and losses of any particular school team. They only want to make sure the kids are having a good experience and the program is teaching healthy life lessons. Just as importantly, they only care that the teams don't have any behavioral or disciplinary issues. If all of those things are being accomplished, they could care less about what the record is. Only the parents seem to care and then again only at some schools. IF a coach is fired its not because of wins and losses. It's because of a failing in one of the objectives that the administration has for the experience of the boys. In each case of a coach being let go, I'm sure there were instances where issues that had nothing to do with wins and losses began to wear out the coach's support from the AD and rest of the administration.

The BoD made a decision that was in the best interest for the current and future student athletes. One that involved a popular resident and employee of the distinct, I'm sure no one involved took it lightly.

If you or your kid are not having a good experience with the Syosset HS Lacrosse program please quit the team, there are other alternatives. Look at the Catholic School programs or other private school alternatives. Others have taken this action... Some are now back at Syosset. I wonder why? Why not ask them about their experience.

I am hearing two things being said here about coaches and effort.


1. Coaches: their job is to Coach and do the best they can to win!!!! Yes they need to be a good example and help mould the young men they coach. Yet I believe too many parents put the responsibility of raising their kids on other people. If a kid who plays lacrosse does something wrong it's not the coaches fault it's bad parenting. Yes I said it. Kids do make bad decisions but to blame coaches for everything a kid does while in season is ridiculous and simply just passing the buck. Parents take responsibility for your kids. Being a coach is a thankless job and really a no win situation in this day and age with all these helicopter parents. Who in their right mind would want to subject themselves to the lunatics that peruse the sidelines of high school games waiting for a coach to be human and make a mistake. That's what it has come down to.

2. Effort: working your tail off always doesn't mean you are going to be good. Parents are always on here saying how hard their kid works and he deserves to play. Well again I am sorry to point out that's not the case. There also needs to be some talent and athletic ability with work ethic for a kid to be good. The problem is too many parents have been duped by club coaches to believe their kid is better than they actually are. As a result they pay for private training and expect their kid to start because they start on their club team. That's pay to play. This is true for the watered down club team world we now live in. If your kid isn't better than the kid starting it's ok. It's life. If their work effort is there it will translate over to the classroom and the workforce. Just please don't say because they work hard they should start, it's not real world. The better kid starts plain and simple.

Well said and spot on.

Does anyone know if there was a common theme to the complaints which led to the removal of the coaches at SWR, Sayville, Syosset and Manhasset? There have been many posts claiming that in each case a small number of parents complained. Was there conflict of interest with pay to play summer programs? Were the coaches abusing their power for personal profit? Was there bullying? Was there conduct unbecoming? Was it years of little complaints? Was there one major incident in each case that caused such problems?

It is hard to believe that a few disgruntled parents can have such an impact if there are no real problems.

Any kids participate to the prospect camp at Stonybrook yesterday? Any thoughts? Was it worth it? College coaches attend?

More like gibberish.

Looking for some help. Is lsm a position that gets recruited and if so are college coaches willing to give a sizeable scholarship for it.