BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) 2016 Men's College Lacrosse Season D1, D2, and D3

I think we are losing track of the argument here. Your assertion that the schools that ER have not been successful just simply doesnt have any merit, but that is a completely separate argument than whether or not these schools are getting all the best kids. Again the talent pool is so vast and expanded now, youre starting to see the parity youre seeing. The statement that JHU should win with their 3rd line is asinine and they deserved to be in the tourney and yes they did get their doors blown in by Brown. Brown is a perfect example of superior coaching BTW. Lars Tiffany took some very talented players and implemented a system that fit their skillsets the best and hes run with it all year. This is direct contrast to Breschi and Starsia. Breschi and Starsia have had the talent, but havent figured out how to implement a style that fits those kids the best. Oh and Lyle Thompson is a sick athlete, he can dunk a basketball and runs like a deer plus all the attributes you mentioned. I dont know what your stake in this is, but I can tell you my son was not an ER, and I dont necessarily agree with the practice but I dont think we can say with any degree of certainty what effect if any it has had at the college level

The point is, if you allow yourself to see it is: These school do not have the talent they thought they had. Plain and simple.
The reason the best College Basketball teams are consistently at the top is because they continue to get the BEST kids. You could resurrect John Wooden, have him Coach at NYU, guess what they're NEVER winning a National Championship. Without the best players, all the Coaching in the world won't matter.
In Lacrosse we ARE definitely seeing the effects of ER, combined with the recruitment of holdbacks and double holdbacks. Many of these holdback ARE the early recruits. A great majority have been going to 4 or 5 schools for the last 4 or 5 years. It is not paying off. Schools that waited a bit longer, have kids that are just as good if not better than those ER kids. Lastly, from what I see, Brown has a great fogo that gets the ball to an insane attack line. Molloy dodges from behind. He either blows by his man or the double and scores, if that doesn't work he feeds. How in the world did Tiffany ever come up with that ground breaking system??? If Molloy can't play today or plays and isn't 100%, and Brown still wins, I'll tip my cap to Tiffany.

How can you see the game online?

Oh boy!! Loyola mounting a comeback.......

Did the officials want Maryland to win? Good Lord what a horrendous job on a National stage!!!!!
Brown nearly pulled it off despite the officials.

That trip couldn't be more obvious, and ref was looking right at it! Stopped a fast break. Just awful

Don't worry, MD goes back on the scrap heap next week. Cuse takes care of business and Tillman chokes again. BTW Cuse just started recruiting early this year. What do Brown, Towson, Loyola, Navy all have in common, much later recruiters. Silly isn't it?
Next week MD and UNC join the others who got all those "top" recruits... Too funny. I love how Hop just gets blown out and the talking heads try to blame it on injuries... They should be killing Brown with their 3rd stringers. They were all "top recruits" lol.

Ok so how you feeling about this statement right about now? Too funny how you have absolutely no clue of what your talking about. Those "top recruits" turned out to be pretty dam good after all........It ok though D3 has some really competitive lax too....

Two ER teams in championship of one of the best games in a long time

I have said before that I am one of the few adult/parents that has had the privilege to actually play lax back in the 80's - 90's on Long Island, so to the rest of you are you also as glad as I am to see both the men and woman's Maryland lacrosse teams, all decked out in that atrocious flag, drag there sticks off the fields in defeat? Does that make me bad?

If you were playing college lax back in the 80's on LI it explains a lot.
How many LI kids were in the championship game ????

So why so happy because it is Maryland ? Did they turn you down back in the 80's

ACC BACK ON TOP

seems like there were a decent amount of LI kids. Starting FOGO for Maryland, Starting goalie for UNC, starting close D for Maryland, starting LSM for Maryland and Im sure I missed a few.

Whoever made comments about brown and lars etc has no clue what they are talking about. Yes they lost for whatever the reason but give respect to lars and crew. The team was absolutely stacked with 9 all americans, 3 who were first team. Can play with anyone and yes they should have won it all.

Before we give Lars a ton of credit don't forget that the Brown offense came from a Division 3 guy - the 25 year old assistant brought that offense with him from Tufts. D3 top 10 teams are legit...

The Jumbo's play FAST...

Tufts is a major powerhouse and amazing school.

Could Tufts be like JHU and go D1 in lax? Certainly could go MAAC or Patriot League for sure.

Ask Hobart College how going from perennial D3 champion to D1 worked out ?
According to your logic Mount Union University should move to the Big 10 in football too.

Ask Hobart College how going from perennial D3 champion to D1 worked out ?
According to your logic Mount Union University should move to the Big 10 in football too.

No doubt Tufts could step in and do well in D1. Keep in mind that if they were D1 Im pretty sure they could attract some top players seeing that their academics are so good. Hobart has been a decent D1 program, nothing to be critical about. I think football is a completely different animal and really cant be compared to lax, although there are so many D1 and D1a football schools, Im sure there are some pretty bad ones out there.

Could Tufts be like JHU and go D1 in lax? Certainly could go MAAC or Patriot League for sure.

Sailsbury could move up too but they feel it's better to win 11 ships in the last 22 years at the DIII level than to be middle of the road in DI. It's better for the sport too

How does Salisbury get such good players ?? Fill out a postcard and send it to Admissions. They keep winning because of the competition they play. Go D1 and admission changes and is looked at more closely. all bets are off everything changes you start losing and have losing seasons all of a sudden that school is not so attractive. You don't get those good players that couldn't get in to D1 schools