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Madlax may have pulled a tougher schedule because they are constantly talking about how good they are and how their owner behaves.

An honest dad whom we would all love to meet - good luck to your son and his team at Big 4! Breath of fresh air on this board.

Wait..I thought only MD teams had holdbacks. What's with these 5 holdbacks joining Prime Time this weekend?

You are probably a solid A/AA team but you were playing against some of the best teams in the country, a lot of 2019 teams would not have done much better, nothing to be ashamed of, and now you know where you stand. Hopefully the boys had fun and took something positive away from the experience.

Credit to the guy who was honest about his son's team.

Edge Canada will be playing Team 91 crush this weekend... That will be a great game.

Edge Canada will be playing Team 91 crush this weekend... That will be a great game.

Who stood out at black card this weekend?

As long as the game does not need to be stopped due to Edge's (typically) dirty play.

Not typical, always dirty play. This is the worst youth lacrosse team I have ever seen. Cheap shots at all times, try to deliberately injury other teams players.
I personally would like to see all US tournament ban them from playing here until they get their act together.
We played them last Nov in Md. and the game was called with about 3 to 4 minutes left it got so bad. They were loosing 10-1 and knew they had no chance to win the game so they just raised up the goon squad and increased their dirty play. No need for them to participate in any US tournament but money talks and tournament directors will keep inviting them, which is a shame. Keep them the [lacrosse] up north, let them bash each other. Plus it is not limited to just one age group, they all act and play this way. And no, don't even try to tell me this is how they play lacrosse in Canada, because I know better.
So sit back and wait for the Edge coaches/parents and fans to start their denial and other BS.

You are correct. They are an absolute embarrassment at every age. Not to mention they flat out admit that all their kids are a year older than their US grade counterparts. Not sure why they are allowed to come down here and play by their own rules. Have seen their teams resort to goonish behavior time and again when either way behind or even way ahead on the scoreboard. Total joke of an organization.

I know that I probably should know this, but what is this Adrenaline that people keep referring to?

Big tournament on Long Island aka MadLax's coming out party.

Where are they playing?

You know what's more embarrassing? The club you play for - Looney's.

You bring this game up over and over, but I've seen plenty of clown moves from Looney's teams and their uneducated parents.

As well they should, first I've ever heard of a game being stopped like that. Having watched and played against both teams at 2020 over the past few years I'd have to say that I've never seen that type of behavior from Looney's and have never seen another team that behaved more badly than Edge. This looks like a big event with lots of teams participating...go see for yourselves.

Unless I missed something Crush isn't in the big tournament. Where is this game taking place?

Anyone want to try a top ten rankings for the 2020 teams?

We will see this weekend. You might be suprised with the outcome of the 91-Edge game.

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I would like to say something as an Edge parent. The blanket statement that all teams are dirty is completely untrue. As for the age thing, do you really want to go there. Our kids play with their grade. At worst they are the same as age as the US counterparts. The 2021 are all kids born in 2003 and I would put our passports out on the field for any parent to see. I am sure that any us team would not do the same thing. Look at the Under Armour roster all the US kids are 2000 for a 2019 team. That makes my son a 2022. You guys must figure it out and play by a system that actually monitors its ages. Our 2021 team will reclassify at some point but will not be a year older but really the same age as your teams. Play by ages we are proud that we are 2003's. Come by and say hello this weekend because its hard to be dirty when you are 6 inches and a year younger than your American counterparts.

While we can appreciate your feeling singled out, we have had the unlucky experience of playing two age groups of edge and they are by far the dirtiest teams we have encountered in 7 years of playing. Kids needed to be brought by ambulance to the hospital due to your club headhunting. Edge coaches were cheering the kids on. Games were shut down and championships walked away from rather than be subject to that form of play. The kids were a year older at the time due to the pg year expected but regardless of age, the manner of play should warrant their exclusion of from most tournaments.

Looney's parent we played you three times last year and yes the final game was out of hand in the last few minutes. We had one player who lost control but in fairness the referees lost the game early. The fact that your not even playing this weekend at 4HHH playing in a watered down NSCLA event leaves us likely seeing you at the NLF event at boy's latin school nov 6. Enjoy your summer. We changed our coaching staff and are very much looking forward to get a chance if we win our first round match to play crush. We havnet played them since 2011 and think its a great opportunity to measure ourselves against the very best youth team around. In speaking with some of their parents at the adrenaline event they felt the same way.

1. Crush

2. through 7. could be any order:

- Crabs (mostly 2001 birth dates, unclear if any 2000 birthdates)
- Laxachusetts (mostly 2001 and a handful of 2000 birthdates which is absurd)
- Express (a handful of 2001 birthdates)
- FCA
- Annapolis Hawks
- Team 88+3 MD
- Legacy


No other team should be in the conversation, but there are a number of good teams that can play at a high level on any give day (Leading Edge, West Coast Starz, HHH, Rising Sons)

Sorry, left off Looney's - they are in that top group without a doubt.

Also left of the fact that crush has several 2000 birth dates, since this is part of the conversation.

I personally do not like crush but they had literally entire squad in WSYL last year minus one player they have NO 2000 birth dates. Other than Crabs and Laxachusetts everyone is respectful of ages, those two should be embarrassed

It is well known that 2020 Edge has several 16 year olds which is despicable. Not surprising as it is advertised on their website and we witnessed it last year first hand.

I have a legitimate question, and I really don't want snarky replies (not sure that is even possible on this forum, but I thought I would throw that out there). How do these "all-star" rosters get selected for these showcase tournaments? I was under the impression that the college coaches in attendance "selected" the kids that they wanted to see again. Which, by the way makes perfect sense to me. This past weekend, the roster was released and then when the teams started tweeting out who played for their team in the all-star game, the roster didn't match who played. Just wondering? Can the coaches of the club teams place anyone they want in the all-star game?

Is the crush team this summer exactly the same as last? I heard they picked up a couple of reclassed kids this past fall

Part 2 of the question, do kids that have already "committed" play in these all-star games, or are they automatically disqualified?

Absolute blatant lie

Anyone want to try a top ten rankings for the 2020 teams?
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1. Crush (by a decent margin)
2. Looney's (won HOCO Elite over Crabs)
3. Laxachusetts (but w/many holdbacks)
4. Crabs (too many holdbacks; lost to Laxachusetts this past weekend, lost to Looney's in HOCO finals, lost to FCA just before playoffs)
5. Annapolis Hawks (Final 4 of HOCO Elite, played Looneys closer than Crabs did in playoffs)
6. FCA (Final 4 HOCO Elite, beat Crabs)
7. Express
8. Team 91 MD Force (1 goal losses to Hawks, FCA and Rising Sons in HOCO; alwyas a tough out)
9. Leading Edge
10...(Edge, West Coast Starz, Next Level Black, Palm Beach Revolution, HHH, Rising Sons)

Lesser known teams to watch: Carolina Cannons, Team 24/7, 757 Select (VA)

Bottom Line: LOTS of very good lacrosse teams and players at 2020 level.

edge has 16 year olds? The boys all have their passports happy for anyone to challenge that bs quote come over and ask us. 75% of our team are 14 still ..out of 22 playing this weekend 5 turned 15 already but all have 2001 birth year. look for your scapegoats elsewhere.

Good list, would add Tomahawks in there somewhere too.

This looks like a pretty good ranking. more will be determined this weekend the rest of the summer

"5 turned 15 already"... wow... yeah, no advantage there at all. cant wait for you to have to go join the '19's if these rules get enforced next summer... or ever

So you just admitted your entire team is holdbacks. Pathetic. Not even the crabs can claim that.

Why lie about it like the rest do. When we played WCS Blue 2019 they had 99's on their team. Cant wait for proof of birth currently we play 2000/2001 in our own leagues.

I am going to start by saying I already know the answer. Are you telling me there are NO 16 year old players on the 2020 edge team? Drum roll, please dont lie