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Kellenberg JV A win against St. Anthony's is just another sign of things to come, talent pool on LI spreading out, not favoring the big two as much anymore...Lots of talent at Kellenberg coming up, same at St. Dom's and St. John's...the Catholics are going to be better for it, better league play at home instead of one sided blowouts...Chaminade game should be interesting ( or not, whatever, this win is good for now) nice job by the Firebirds. Congrats boys! Now let's see if they can give that stacked Chaminade team a game. Good luck to both!

I would think if Syosett or Pequa played either team 3 times, they would win a couple

SA beat Syo and Chammy beat Pequa. Do your own extrapolation.
SA travels to beat the best teams from Philly to Connecticut. Public schools staying home to beat on little programs are putting the brakes on their own development . SE?? Highly overrated. WI? Inconsistent. WM? Another stay local beat the little guys team.

Try again

The team seemed disconnected from the coaches in the 2nd half of the season.

Article in the NY Daily News reporting on the Father Williams case states "In Williams case, Chaminade and the LI Catholic diocese brought in law enforcement swiftly and appear to have investigated vigorously."

The incident apparently took place in 2011, but the alleged victim didn't go to the diocese until 2015. At which point Chaminade did as they were required.

Not one of those coaches would agree to it. Nothing to gain except more headaches from people complaining. Chammy wins and everyone talks about all star team prep school crap. They lose and they are beaten down. Syosset keeps it to a scrimmage one because they are friends and two because you don't want to chance another loss or injury. Why do you think GC and Chammy don't even scrimmage?? Mass same boat as Syosset.

What needs to happen is like college Rank the teams with 2 weeks left in season and have the best play the best with one champion. If you want to have a so called D2 or D3 so be it but at least you would have some kind of cross over and teams playing different teams. Would not extend season more than it is because you can play 2 games a week. You can invite the likes of St A and Chammy but as soon as Chammy or ST A wins the complaints will come they should not be in

Crazy idea?...how bout the TOP LI teams--both Private (Catholic) and Public--have end of season tournament that would give all of us Lax lovers a chance to see great competitive games?..maybe do it for charity and play at Hofstra?...have an all-day schedule based upon power rankings?
Pipe dream?..oh well..

They were required to prevent this from happening in the first place.

You cant play the common opponents game, it is definitely not an accurate representation of anything. Now as far as the stay home and beat up on the little guys comment, I will agree with you. For some reason the Suffolk A teams dont schedule aggressively off of LI. I personally dont understand this, the only thing I can think of is maybe they feel they have enough competition locally and there are budget limitations? WI never plays a tough OOC schedule other than Chaminade, not sure about WM but I think its the same.

Now regarding SE being overrated, thats just silly. They did win Suffolk A last year and they are the favorites to do it again, cant use overrated when a team wins Suffolk A, sorry.

WI, inconsistent? Theyre 12-2 and theyve won 9 in a row, looks pretty consistent to me. The WI coaching is 2nd to none considering the talent they have to work with.

WM is a young team, remains to be seen what they will be.

I commend ST.Ants for going out and playing a tough OOC schedule and challenging their team but theres no way to know how they would fair against SE, WI, Pequa, WM, etc.

you are correct; the assessments were emotionally exaggerated. they are all very talented teams. would love to see them play each other.

two teams playing each other 3 times a year. How tedious and boring. Snooze fest. St. A's would be better off redirecting their athletic budget towards academics and Chaminade would be better off putting less emphasis on sports and more emphasis on keeping a leash on their employees.

They should play just 1x at the end of the year. As for your other suggestions..

Wrong.....the schools enjoy the crowds that show up. The players enjoy playing against each when they play. College coaches show up in good numbers to all the games. The publics can do what they do and frankly the catholic league could care less. Its only the publics that want to snipe and change what is arguably one of the best rivalries on Long Island. Have a great day.

Is this game played at night or is the championship always mid afternoon? ...if not why wouldn't the game be played when they get the biggest crowd to see the greatest show on earth

Typical Chaminade arrogance, nobody else ever improves, they just get lucky, right...how do you explain the letdown of your football season? You have coaches leaving because they see the talent drop off coming up. News flash dude, cream of the crop aren't always picking Chaminade anymore...it's starting to level out and this is a fact...so 15 goal beat down is your prediction, not seeing it...can't wait to see this game...

Typical Chaminade arrogance, nobody else ever improves, they just get lucky, right...how do you explain the letdown of your football season? You have coaches leaving because they see the talent drop off coming up. News flash dude, cream of the crop aren't always picking Chaminade anymore...it's starting to level out and this is a fact...so 15 goal beat down is your prediction, not seeing it...can't wait to see this game...

Every team has the ability to go to the championships and states so saying there is a limit is not of any concern. If you go to states you are playing 5 more games than any other team. Do away with the playoffs and rank them and start the tourney same time you would start playoffs and you would be playing the same number of games

So saying there is a limit is not the problem

playoffs? the Chaminade/Anthonys "playoff" for State Championship is a waste . that's not a playoff. is that the limit of total games that those two teams can play?

You know that it was the other Catholic teams who lobbied to get rid of the old CHSAA playoff system, right?

Typical Chaminade arrogance, nobody else ever improves, they just get lucky, right...how do you explain the letdown of your football season? You have coaches leaving because they see the talent drop off coming up. News flash dude, cream of the crop aren't always picking Chaminade anymore...it's starting to level out and this is a fact...so 15 goal beat down is your prediction, not seeing it...can't wait to see this game...

Maybe if the Big 2 would relax the transfer rules and not hold kids hostage there would be more parity. They don't want their third and fourth stringers coming back to haunt them. Is there any risk of a kid transferring from Kberg, Doms, Trinity or St Johns to St Anthonys or Chaminade? Fat chance. Let your sophomores that you have no intent on playing transfer without sitting out a year. Then maybe there would be a competitive league of more than two teams.

This supposed restriction sounds illegal or at least like a lawsuit waiting to happen if it's indeed true. Are you kidding? I've never heard of such BS at the high school level. Why single out athletics as a restriction for transfers? Why not math or science? I hope it's not true otherwise it's an outrageous restriction that should be fought.

Maybe if the Big 2 would relax the transfer rules and not hold kids hostage there would be more parity. They don't want their third and fourth stringers coming back to haunt them. Is there any risk of a kid transferring from Kberg, Doms, Trinity or St Johns to St Anthonys or Chaminade? Fat chance. Let your sophomores that you have no intent on playing transfer without sitting out a year. Then maybe there would be a competitive league of more than two teams.

This supposed restriction sounds illegal or at least like a lawsuit waiting to happen if it's indeed true. Are you kidding? I've never heard of such BS at the high school level. Why single out athletics as a restriction for transfers? Why not math or science? I hope it's not true otherwise it's an outrageous restriction that should be fought.

The restriction on transfers is a NYS Education Department rule. There is no restriction is a student's residence moves from one district to another. If there is no residence change, then the student is ineligible for one year. Students who transfer from any school to the public school district of his residence of a private school within that district will recieve a waiver. As an example, if a student lived in South Huntington but went to Chaminade can transfer to Whitman or St. Anthony's without sitting out a year

It's not a supposed restriction. It's absolutely true. And its ridiculous. Don't end up in my situation, having my son have to sit out league games if he wants to transfer. I found out too late that he would have had to leave after his freshmen year to have been able to play elsewhere. Makes me hate Chaminade even more, because you know if this rule hurt them, it would have been changed or never implemented in the first place.

Well, you can sleep easy knowing that Chaminade's transfer rules are far stricter than anyone else's, since, well, the school doesn't allow any transfers.

The barbarians are at the gate. In order to thrive in the long run Chaminade needs a huge makeover to adapt to changing times and both on and off the field. How many faculty scandals and mediocre lacrosse seasons will they endure before they bow to the pressures for change?

Chill out, go watch the Yankees, you're making no sense. No Barbarians at he gate, and the school has thrived for 80 plus years. They adapt to changing times just fine. Need a weight room to keep your kids out of Gold's Gyms, build one. Athletic program outpacing older facilities, build a state of the art building. Need fields for football/lacrosse, buy one. Need to upgrade academic offerings, build a new Science and Technology building.

And trust me, the administration isn't as concerned about the wins and losses of any particular team, as they are about developing the kids as responsible young men. The faculty scandal, horrible for sure, but not a part of any pattern. But I wouldn't sit by the front door waiting for the newspaper reporting wholesale changes at Chaminade in response to outside pressures.

Now enjoy your beer, and mind your own business.

EXACTLY! same guy who hates Chaminade and keeps posting. It is obvious his son had a bad experience or he had a bad experience. A great institution with a storied history.