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Re: High School Lax Boys B_O_T_C #166222
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Sachem North goalie is going to Hopkins , Whitman goalie going to Towson.

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Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166228
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Originally Posted by Anonymous Sachem North goalie is going to Hopkins , Whitman goalie going to Towson. More important to some is where is Port goalie going?

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166232
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Sorry here is my yearly rant... Maybe some changes can take place at Turning Stone this year. Sorry if my request takes time away from your gambling! Which asks the question why would a NY State School/Educational organization like NYSPHSAA have a conference at a casino??? on The Tax payers dime! Here's my rant... Am I the only one who gets twisted when I see how the brackets get laid out for the NY State Championships. Don't get me wrong I love that you have a Long Island Champ, but why not have that same opportunity also be for State champ. We are effectively giving participation slots out by playing/seeding the championships by geography. Have a true Champions format having the weakest sects play the strongest. How can Ct and NJ do it. Not to sure How PA does it but they are just as big Come on for Class B, Upstate 2 games in for the state playoff could be. Messina vs Dewitt, then Dewitt vs Vestal or Horsehead. Meanwhile the LI teams play Sect 8 vs Sect 11 then most likely go to play Sect 1. In B at least there are 11 sections why are the top 4 playing each other the first 2 rounds!!! The sectional games within Sect 8 or 11 would have be more competitive than the State games between sect 3/4/10. Why not play in a ranking system. Highest plays lowest. That's like asking Dewitt to Victor in the first round. EVERY FLUKING YEAR... Why not, they are neighboring sections!!! I am sure neither want that. But thats okay, have Sect 8 and 11 beat each other up to advance... to play what is another top 4 section in sect 1 Whats the issue, budgetary come on make a trip out of it. At the very least if travel time is a factor figure it out its not to hard. You are effectively giving teams a pass to the next round that wouldn't otherwise get out of round 1 in a true playoff format. Why does Sect 1 get the pass of playing Sect 9. Why does Sect 3 get the pass and play sect 10. Timm Slade Ed Stores Ben Nelson John Rathbun Carl Normandin Karen Lopez Wayne Bertrand Greg Ransom Jennifer Simmons Nina Van Erk Don Webster Section 1 also has to play Section 2, which typically has some very good teams in Class A such as Niskayuna. So not a cakewalk for Class A at least. I think you have to look at it as a 4 team playoff with the number 1 seed being Long Island 2 and 3 central western and 4 downstate. Long Island gets the benefit of playing the 4 seed. Also the 4 seed has the toughest road as it should be , in that they have to beat both Long Island and Upstate to win . The bottom line is there is no cheap or fluky champion. Please please please if Nisky ever had to run into 8 then 11 they would never go the distance. Never Pretty sure Nisky beat Syosset in last years state semifinal, just sayin..... please have facts before you make ignorant statements......the lacrosse world doesnt begin and end on Long Island.

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166236
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Originally Posted by Anonymous Whew, at least we can eliminate ethics as the topic of your presentation. If what the post says about nepotism being true then what a sad day for manhasset lacrosse, all lacrosse for that matter. But I give you credit man! You have got stones, your transparency that wins means everything and can do anything, even condoning nepotism, kudos to you, keep it going. why so sad? did your daddy not hug you when you were a baby? so sad that life isn't working out for you. turn that frown upside down.

Re: High School Lax Boys B_O_T_C #166251
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Does anyone know where to find the all-league/all-county players for Suffolk?

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Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166328
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Sachem North goalie is going to Hopkins , Whitman goalie going to Towson. More important to some is where is Port goalie going? Important to you? Important to who? Why do you care and why are you stirring the pot??

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166336
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Sachem North goalie is going to Hopkins , Whitman goalie going to Towson. More important to some is where is Port goalie going? Important to you? Important to who? Why do you care and why are you stirring the pot?? lets not single out individual players, both are outstanding lacrosse players and wish them luck in the future

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166338
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Craig is great but the without the community supporting the Lacrosse program they wouldn't be able to compete. WI community supports LAX from when their kids are in diapers.. program Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous [quote=Anonymous]I have always been amazed at the how the better lax teams/schools have vocalized their issues. SWR a few years ago, the recent bickering in 3village or GC, ow Syo and Port going at it. Sayville swiftly booting the coach. and lets not forget CSH slap gate. All of these schools are relatively in the mix. Year after year. I am sure you have other towns with their issues but never airing their grievances out here. Do they have class and take things in house and note spew venom publically or are they just okay to live with the notion of mediocre! You do not see West Islip or Farmingdale griping and I guess you can describe them as mediocre if you have never seen a,lacrosse game before. Over the past 20 years just wins and no excuses but the West Islip parents are tough to listen to. Nope, Wi goes under the title of "there are issues but they keep it in house". A few years back when they were doing just as well there were posts on here but coach Craig does an amazing job with that community. Farmingdale really want to get started there. [/quote Craig has them wrapped around his finger..if you miss his summer league you might as well quit because you are behind the 8 ball. Must be great being the puppet master over these kids and parents. Play travel and not for him is looked down upon. That's the truth So what? Craig wants his players to learn the right way to play the game, not ME ME ME summer club lacrosse. What's wrong with that. There's also something to be said for building team chemistry by paying together as much as possible. Craig and WI (and WM) do it the right way. Club programs are ruining lacrosse.

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166340
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Sorry here is my yearly rant... Maybe some changes can take place at Turning Stone this year. Sorry if my request takes time away from your gambling! Which asks the question why would a NY State School/Educational organization like NYSPHSAA have a conference at a casino??? on The Tax payers dime! Here's my rant... Am I the only one who gets twisted when I see how the brackets get laid out for the NY State Championships. Don't get me wrong I love that you have a Long Island Champ, but why not have that same opportunity also be for State champ. We are effectively giving participation slots out by playing/seeding the championships by geography. Have a true Champions format having the weakest sects play the strongest. How can Ct and NJ do it. Not to sure How PA does it but they are just as big Come on for Class B, Upstate 2 games in for the state playoff could be. Messina vs Dewitt, then Dewitt vs Vestal or Horsehead. Meanwhile the LI teams play Sect 8 vs Sect 11 then most likely go to play Sect 1. In B at least there are 11 sections why are the top 4 playing each other the first 2 rounds!!! The sectional games within Sect 8 or 11 would have be more competitive than the State games between sect 3/4/10. Why not play in a ranking system. Highest plays lowest. That's like asking Dewitt to Victor in the first round. EVERY FLUKING YEAR... Why not, they are neighboring sections!!! I am sure neither want that. But thats okay, have Sect 8 and 11 beat each other up to advance... to play what is another top 4 section in sect 1 Whats the issue, budgetary come on make a trip out of it. At the very least if travel time is a factor figure it out its not to hard. You are effectively giving teams a pass to the next round that wouldn't otherwise get out of round 1 in a true playoff format. Why does Sect 1 get the pass of playing Sect 9. Why does Sect 3 get the pass and play sect 10. Timm Slade Ed Stores Ben Nelson John Rathbun Carl Normandin Karen Lopez Wayne Bertrand Greg Ransom Jennifer Simmons Nina Van Erk Don Webster Section 1 also has to play Section 2, which typically has some very good teams in Class A such as Niskayuna. So not a cakewalk for Class A at least. I think you have to look at it as a 4 team playoff with the number 1 seed being Long Island 2 and 3 central western and 4 downstate. Long Island gets the benefit of playing the 4 seed. Also the 4 seed has the toughest road as it should be , in that they have to beat both Long Island and Upstate to win . The bottom line is there is no cheap or fluky champion. Please please please if Nisky ever had to run into 8 then 11 they would never go the distance. Never Pretty sure Nisky beat Syosset in last years state semifinal, just sayin..... please have facts before you make ignorant statements......the lacrosse world doesnt begin and end on Long Island. The bottomline is LI teams have to play many VERY tough opponents all the way through the playoffs to get off the Island. Are they beat up by the time the semis start? Who did Nisky play on their way to finals?

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166343
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Originally Posted by Anonymous So what? Craig wants his players to learn the right way to play the game, not ME ME ME summer club lacrosse. What's wrong with that. There's also something to be said for building team chemistry by paying together as much as possible. Craig and WI (and WM) do it the right way. Club programs are ruining lacrosse. Freudian post of the year.....lol

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166346
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Craig is great but the without the community supporting the Lacrosse program they wouldn't be able to compete. WI community supports LAX from when their kids are in diapers.. program Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous [quote=Anonymous]I have always been amazed at the how the better lax teams/schools have vocalized their issues. SWR a few years ago, the recent bickering in 3village or GC, ow Syo and Port going at it. Sayville swiftly booting the coach. and lets not forget CSH slap gate. All of these schools are relatively in the mix. Year after year. I am sure you have other towns with their issues but never airing their grievances out here. Do they have class and take things in house and note spew venom publically or are they just okay to live with the notion of mediocre! You do not see West Islip or Farmingdale griping and I guess you can describe them as mediocre if you have never seen a,lacrosse game before. Over the past 20 years just wins and no excuses but the West Islip parents are tough to listen to. Nope, Wi goes under the title of "there are issues but they keep it in house". A few years back when they were doing just as well there were posts on here but coach Craig does an amazing job with that community. Farmingdale really want to get started there. [/quote Craig has them wrapped around his finger..if you miss his summer league you might as well quit because you are behind the 8 ball. Must be great being the puppet master over these kids and parents. Play travel and not for him is looked down upon. That's the truth So what? Craig wants his players to learn the right way to play the game, not ME ME ME summer club lacrosse. What's wrong with that. There's also something to be said for building team chemistry by paying together as much as possible. Craig and WI (and WM) do it the right way. Club programs are ruining lacrosse. Theres also something to be said for broadening your horizons and challenging your players against the best players from around the country not just your town or the county. Club programs arent ruining lacrosse at all, as long as your a smart consumer and find the right program for your kid, it can be a great experience. Also I hate to break it to you but kids are being recruited through the club and showcase scene. WI has a great program and a great history of success, but there is a also a flip side to that coin.

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166350
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Sorry here is my yearly rant... Maybe some changes can take place at Turning Stone this year. Sorry if my request takes time away from your gambling! Which asks the question why would a NY State School/Educational organization like NYSPHSAA have a conference at a casino??? on The Tax payers dime! Here's my rant... Am I the only one who gets twisted when I see how the brackets get laid out for the NY State Championships. Don't get me wrong I love that you have a Long Island Champ, but why not have that same opportunity also be for State champ. We are effectively giving participation slots out by playing/seeding the championships by geography. Have a true Champions format having the weakest sects play the strongest. How can Ct and NJ do it. Not to sure How PA does it but they are just as big Come on for Class B, Upstate 2 games in for the state playoff could be. Messina vs Dewitt, then Dewitt vs Vestal or Horsehead. Meanwhile the LI teams play Sect 8 vs Sect 11 then most likely go to play Sect 1. In B at least there are 11 sections why are the top 4 playing each other the first 2 rounds!!! The sectional games within Sect 8 or 11 would have be more competitive than the State games between sect 3/4/10. Why not play in a ranking system. Highest plays lowest. That's like asking Dewitt to Victor in the first round. EVERY FLUKING YEAR... Why not, they are neighboring sections!!! I am sure neither want that. But thats okay, have Sect 8 and 11 beat each other up to advance... to play what is another top 4 section in sect 1 Whats the issue, budgetary come on make a trip out of it. At the very least if travel time is a factor figure it out its not to hard. You are effectively giving teams a pass to the next round that wouldn't otherwise get out of round 1 in a true playoff format. Why does Sect 1 get the pass of playing Sect 9. Why does Sect 3 get the pass and play sect 10. Timm Slade Ed Stores Ben Nelson John Rathbun Carl Normandin Karen Lopez Wayne Bertrand Greg Ransom Jennifer Simmons Nina Van Erk Don Webster Section 1 also has to play Section 2, which typically has some very good teams in Class A such as Niskayuna. So not a cakewalk for Class A at least. I think you have to look at it as a 4 team playoff with the number 1 seed being Long Island 2 and 3 central western and 4 downstate. Long Island gets the benefit of playing the 4 seed. Also the 4 seed has the toughest road as it should be , in that they have to beat both Long Island and Upstate to win . The bottom line is there is no cheap or fluky champion. Please please please if Nisky ever had to run into 8 then 11 they would never go the distance. Never Pretty sure Nisky beat Syosset in last years state semifinal, just sayin..... please have facts before you make ignorant statements......the lacrosse world doesnt begin and end on Long Island. The bottomline is LI teams have to play many VERY tough opponents all the way through the playoffs to get off the Island. Are they beat up by the time the semis start? Who did Nisky play on their way to finals? Nisky played Warwick and Mamaroneck before playing SYO. Syo had one lone game against SE who they beat quite easily. Whats your point? SYO had a much tougher road? Sorry try again. Yes the competition on LI is very good, but the upstate teams can play. If Nisky were in SUffolk or Nassau A they would be right in the mix every year, as would be Victor, West Genny, and plenty of others. I have a question, how did the LI teams do OFF Long Island this year against ranked opponents? Other than St A and Chaminade I cant think of one LI team that traveled off LI. Did any of the LI Publics even travel off LI this year? LI doesnt dominate anymore like in years past, the rest of the country is catching up and catching up fast.

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166351
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Craig is great but the without the community supporting the Lacrosse program they wouldn't be able to compete. WI community supports LAX from when their kids are in diapers.. program Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous [quote=Anonymous]I have always been amazed at the how the better lax teams/schools have vocalized their issues. SWR a few years ago, the recent bickering in 3village or GC, ow Syo and Port going at it. Sayville swiftly booting the coach. and lets not forget CSH slap gate. All of these schools are relatively in the mix. Year after year. I am sure you have other towns with their issues but never airing their grievances out here. Do they have class and take things in house and note spew venom publically or are they just okay to live with the notion of mediocre! You do not see West Islip or Farmingdale griping and I guess you can describe them as mediocre if you have never seen a,lacrosse game before. Over the past 20 years just wins and no excuses but the West Islip parents are tough to listen to. Nope, Wi goes under the title of "there are issues but they keep it in house". A few years back when they were doing just as well there were posts on here but coach Craig does an amazing job with that community. Farmingdale really want to get started there. [/quote Craig has them wrapped around his finger..if you miss his summer league you might as well quit because you are behind the 8 ball. Must be great being the puppet master over these kids and parents. Play travel and not for him is looked down upon. That's the truth So what? Craig wants his players to learn the right way to play the game, not ME ME ME summer club lacrosse. What's wrong with that. There's also something to be said for building team chemistry by paying together as much as possible. Craig and WI (and WM) do it the right way. Club programs are ruining lacrosse. Get a clue. Craig won when he had studs. Please explain "the right way". How is club lacrosse ruining the sport?

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166353
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous So what? Craig wants his players to learn the right way to play the game, not ME ME ME summer club lacrosse. What's wrong with that. There's also something to be said for building team chemistry by paying together as much as possible. Craig and WI (and WM) do it the right way. Club programs are ruining lacrosse. Freudian post of the year.....lol Wow, does Craig profit off the summer team? I know there are coaches who run a rackets but didn't think it was happening in West Islip.

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166368
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Sorry here is my yearly rant... Maybe some changes can take place at Turning Stone this year. Sorry if my request takes time away from your gambling! Which asks the question why would a NY State School/Educational organization like NYSPHSAA have a conference at a casino??? on The Tax payers dime! Here's my rant... Am I the only one who gets twisted when I see how the brackets get laid out for the NY State Championships. Don't get me wrong I love that you have a Long Island Champ, but why not have that same opportunity also be for State champ. We are effectively giving participation slots out by playing/seeding the championships by geography. Have a true Champions format having the weakest sects play the strongest. How can Ct and NJ do it. Not to sure How PA does it but they are just as big Come on for Class B, Upstate 2 games in for the state playoff could be. Messina vs Dewitt, then Dewitt vs Vestal or Horsehead. Meanwhile the LI teams play Sect 8 vs Sect 11 then most likely go to play Sect 1. In B at least there are 11 sections why are the top 4 playing each other the first 2 rounds!!! The sectional games within Sect 8 or 11 would have be more competitive than the State games between sect 3/4/10. Why not play in a ranking system. Highest plays lowest. That's like asking Dewitt to Victor in the first round. EVERY FLUKING YEAR... Why not, they are neighboring sections!!! I am sure neither want that. But thats okay, have Sect 8 and 11 beat each other up to advance... to play what is another top 4 section in sect 1 Whats the issue, budgetary come on make a trip out of it. At the very least if travel time is a factor figure it out its not to hard. You are effectively giving teams a pass to the next round that wouldn't otherwise get out of round 1 in a true playoff format. Why does Sect 1 get the pass of playing Sect 9. Why does Sect 3 get the pass and play sect 10. Timm Slade Ed Stores Ben Nelson John Rathbun Carl Normandin Karen Lopez Wayne Bertrand Greg Ransom Jennifer Simmons Nina Van Erk Don Webster Section 1 also has to play Section 2, which typically has some very good teams in Class A such as Niskayuna. So not a cakewalk for Class A at least. I think you have to look at it as a 4 team playoff with the number 1 seed being Long Island 2 and 3 central western and 4 downstate. Long Island gets the benefit of playing the 4 seed. Also the 4 seed has the toughest road as it should be , in that they have to beat both Long Island and Upstate to win . The bottom line is there is no cheap or fluky champion. Please please please if Nisky ever had to run into 8 then 11 they would never go the distance. Never Pretty sure Nisky beat Syosset in last years state semifinal, just sayin..... please have facts before you make ignorant statements......the lacrosse world doesnt begin and end on Long Island. The bottomline is LI teams have to play many VERY tough opponents all the way through the playoffs to get off the Island. Are they beat up by the time the semis start? Who did Nisky play on their way to finals? Nisky played Warwick and Mamaroneck before playing SYO. Syo had one lone game against SE who they beat quite easily. Whats your point? SYO had a much tougher road? Sorry try again. Yes the competition on LI is very good, but the upstate teams can play. If Nisky were in SUffolk or Nassau A they would be right in the mix every year, as would be Victor, West Genny, and plenty of others. I have a question, how did the LI teams do OFF Long Island this year against ranked opponents? Other than St A and Chaminade I cant think of one LI team that traveled off LI. Did any of the LI Publics even travel off LI this year? LI doesnt dominate anymore like in years past, the rest of the country is catching up and catching up fast. Are you kidding me guy? Get this straight, Long Island DOES NOT need to travel ouit of Long Island. Besides MD we dominate in Lax. Yes, there are good Ct, NJ, Pa, and Upstate teams, but if you take the top 50 Lax schools on Long Island, nowhere besides Md even comes close. We would consistently smoke upstate. Keep dreaming though.

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166370
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	So what? Craig wants his players to learn the right way to play the game, not ME ME ME summer club lacrosse. What's wrong with that. There's also something to be said for building team chemistry by paying together as much as possible. Craig and WI (and WM) do it the right way. Club programs are ruining lacrosse. [/quote] Get a clue. Craig won when he had studs. Please explain "the right way". How is club lacrosse ruining the sport? [/quote] Seems like the "Club Kids" as usual are dominating the "in house" crowd. WW beats WI. Just got email from PB at Outlaws. Seems like 12 kids on WW are on Outlaws. Perhaps being exposed to better competition, playing with better players and getting different coaching helped improve the WW program. Even after losing the most dominate face off kid ever. This is the point where all the Outlaw haters can try and refute the facts. The final four teams are all littered with "Club kids". Sorry, but that just a fact.

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166392
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Originally Posted by Anonymous So what? Craig wants his players to learn the right way to play the game, not ME ME ME summer club lacrosse. What's wrong with that. There's also something to be said for building team chemistry by paying together as much as possible. Craig and WI (and WM) do it the right way. Club programs are ruining lacrosse. Get a clue. Craig won when he had studs. Please explain "the right way". How is club lacrosse ruining the sport? [/quote] Seems like the "Club Kids" as usual are dominating the "in house" crowd. WW beats WI. Just got email from PB at Outlaws. Seems like 12 kids on WW are on Outlaws. Perhaps being exposed to better competition, playing with better players and getting different coaching helped improve the WW program. Even after losing the most dominate face off kid ever. This is the point where all the Outlaw haters can try and refute the facts. The final four teams are all littered with "Club kids". Sorry, but that just a fact. [/quote] entire club teams are committed and most before they play varsity these days. college coaches by the dozens lining the sidelines with clipboards in hand. its a rare day (except for a SA/Chammy playoff) where college coaches gather in any significant numbers to see a high school game. why would they when the cream of the crop is at the numerous major club tournaments every weekend of the summer? club teams ruining the sport? I think not. More likely the HS coach who demands his teams stay under his wing and not venture out to play the best the nation has to offer is the ruination of the HS aspect of the sport. Why not let the kids go to expand their skills among the best and rise to the level of play that demands? Allowing them to do so would serve to bring higher level skills back to the fold at the HS which can then be absorbed by the kids who don't play club ball.

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166404
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Sorry here is my yearly rant... Maybe some changes can take place at Turning Stone this year. Sorry if my request takes time away from your gambling! Which asks the question why would a NY State School/Educational organization like NYSPHSAA have a conference at a casino??? on The Tax payers dime! Here's my rant... Am I the only one who gets twisted when I see how the brackets get laid out for the NY State Championships. Don't get me wrong I love that you have a Long Island Champ, but why not have that same opportunity also be for State champ. We are effectively giving participation slots out by playing/seeding the championships by geography. Have a true Champions format having the weakest sects play the strongest. How can Ct and NJ do it. Not to sure How PA does it but they are just as big Come on for Class B, Upstate 2 games in for the state playoff could be. Messina vs Dewitt, then Dewitt vs Vestal or Horsehead. Meanwhile the LI teams play Sect 8 vs Sect 11 then most likely go to play Sect 1. In B at least there are 11 sections why are the top 4 playing each other the first 2 rounds!!! The sectional games within Sect 8 or 11 would have be more competitive than the State games between sect 3/4/10. Why not play in a ranking system. Highest plays lowest. That's like asking Dewitt to Victor in the first round. EVERY FLUKING YEAR... Why not, they are neighboring sections!!! I am sure neither want that. But thats okay, have Sect 8 and 11 beat each other up to advance... to play what is another top 4 section in sect 1 Whats the issue, budgetary come on make a trip out of it. At the very least if travel time is a factor figure it out its not to hard. You are effectively giving teams a pass to the next round that wouldn't otherwise get out of round 1 in a true playoff format. Why does Sect 1 get the pass of playing Sect 9. Why does Sect 3 get the pass and play sect 10. Timm Slade Ed Stores Ben Nelson John Rathbun Carl Normandin Karen Lopez Wayne Bertrand Greg Ransom Jennifer Simmons Nina Van Erk Don Webster Section 1 also has to play Section 2, which typically has some very good teams in Class A such as Niskayuna. So not a cakewalk for Class A at least. I think you have to look at it as a 4 team playoff with the number 1 seed being Long Island 2 and 3 central western and 4 downstate. Long Island gets the benefit of playing the 4 seed. Also the 4 seed has the toughest road as it should be , in that they have to beat both Long Island and Upstate to win . The bottom line is there is no cheap or fluky champion. Please please please if Nisky ever had to run into 8 then 11 they would never go the distance. Never Pretty sure Nisky beat Syosset in last years state semifinal, just sayin..... please have facts before you make ignorant statements......the lacrosse world doesnt begin and end on Long Island. The bottomline is LI teams have to play many VERY tough opponents all the way through the playoffs to get off the Island. Are they beat up by the time the semis start? Who did Nisky play on their way to finals? Nisky played Warwick and Mamaroneck before playing SYO. Syo had one lone game against SE who they beat quite easily. Whats your point? SYO had a much tougher road? Sorry try again. Yes the competition on LI is very good, but the upstate teams can play. If Nisky were in SUffolk or Nassau A they would be right in the mix every year, as would be Victor, West Genny, and plenty of others. I have a question, how did the LI teams do OFF Long Island this year against ranked opponents? Other than St A and Chaminade I cant think of one LI team that traveled off LI. Did any of the LI Publics even travel off LI this year? LI doesnt dominate anymore like in years past, the rest of the country is catching up and catching up fast. I wonder if centuries ago the Native Americans bickered about whether they needed to travel off their local land because they needed to test their mettle against other tribes?

Re: High School Lax Boys B_O_T_C #166416
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	I wonder if centuries ago the Native Americans bickered about whether they needed to travel off their local land because they needed to test their mettle against other tribes? [/quote] Yes they did. Big gamblers though. Lost their land in a braveheart at the turkey shootout!

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166419
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Nisky played Warwick and Mamaroneck before playing SYO. Syo had one lone game against SE who they beat quite easily. Whats your point? SYO had a much tougher road? Sorry try again. Yes the competition on LI is very good, but the upstate teams can play. If Nisky were in SUffolk or Nassau A they would be right in the mix every year, as would be Victor, West Genny, and plenty of others. I have a question, how did the LI teams do OFF Long Island this year against ranked opponents? Other than St A and Chaminade I cant think of one LI team that traveled off LI. Did any of the LI Publics even travel off LI this year? LI doesnt dominate anymore like in years past, the rest of the country is catching up and catching up fast. [/quote] Are you kidding me guy? Get this straight, Long Island DOES NOT need to travel ouit of Long Island. Besides MD we dominate in Lax. Yes, there are good Ct, NJ, Pa, and Upstate teams, but if you take the top 50 Lax schools on Long Island, nowhere besides Md even comes close. We would consistently smoke upstate. Keep dreaming though. [/quote] Not even close, sorry. So first off, no one is saying the teams need to travel, Im saying they SHOULD travel. Wouldnt you like to see how our teams stack up against the rest of the country? Dont you think that it benefits the teams that do it? As for your top 50 comment, please stop, there are maybe 20 quality programs on Long Island, the rest are mediocre at best.

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166420
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous So what? Craig wants his players to learn the right way to play the game, not ME ME ME summer club lacrosse. What's wrong with that. There's also something to be said for building team chemistry by paying together as much as possible. Craig and WI (and WM) do it the right way. Club programs are ruining lacrosse. Get a clue. Craig won when he had studs. Please explain "the right way". How is club lacrosse ruining the sport? Seems like the "Club Kids" as usual are dominating the "in house" crowd. WW beats WI. Just got email from PB at Outlaws. Seems like 12 kids on WW are on Outlaws. Perhaps being exposed to better competition, playing with better players and getting different coaching helped improve the WW program. Even after losing the most dominate face off kid ever. This is the point where all the Outlaw haters can try and refute the facts. The final four teams are all littered with "Club kids". Sorry, but that just a fact. [/quote] entire club teams are committed and most before they play varsity these days. college coaches by the dozens lining the sidelines with clipboards in hand. its a rare day (except for a SA/Chammy playoff) where college coaches gather in any significant numbers to see a high school game. why would they when the cream of the crop is at the numerous major club tournaments every weekend of the summer? club teams ruining the sport? I think not. More likely the HS coach who demands his teams stay under his wing and not venture out to play the best the nation has to offer is the ruination of the HS aspect of the sport. Why not let the kids go to expand their skills among the best and rise to the level of play that demands? Allowing them to do so would serve to bring higher level skills back to the fold at the HS which can then be absorbed by the kids who don't play club ball. [/quote] Couldnt agree more. Club ball is great for competition and the expansion of the sport. Seems to me very few towns are still clinging to the old way of only playing with your school team, and the ones that do are being passed by. The WW-WI example is right on the money, the WI kids do not play outside lacrosse as a general rule.

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166422
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	and the tribes from Maryland with the most hold-backs and reclassified Braves usually won

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166428
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	"Club programs are ruining lacrosse" I see this statement posted on this site many times without any supporting argument behind it. How is it the fastest growing sport in the country, and more exciting than ever, AND at the same time also being "ruined" by Club. Tell some kid from Oregon that absolutely loves the game that club is ruining the sport (you didn't confine your comment to LI so neither will I). Staying closer to home, look at Suffolk A this year for example. What a war all year between traditional and non-traditional powerhouses. So many schools are now competitive - very few easy outs. And this is great for the sport. Unless you can give me a better explanation, its safe to say that you can attribute this to the instruction, training and competition that the kids from towns without strong local programs are getting from their club programs. sure, the scene is way to watered down but like everything else - buyer beware. I would agree with you if you qualified your statement by saying "kids are leaving their local programs to receive poorer instruction and play at marginal club programs just to say they play club". Then you may have something (I wont name individual clubs and start a whole mess of drama). Not every district has strong feeder programs like a WI, WM, GC, SYO, Manh (no slight intended if I missed one of the other strong ones), and club programs are a viable option for kids who are serious about the sport but aren't fortunate enough to play in a district that has a strong In-House/Pal program. I know that all club programs are not created equal, but lets stop with the non-supported hyperbolic statements about what is being "ruined" by what. lacrosse is stronger than ever and you may not like the fact that kids from Texas, Michigan and California for example, are playing all over D1. But that is an indicator of the strength of the game - and attributable to club. I will put my soap box away now. Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous So what? Craig wants his players to learn the right way to play the game, not ME ME ME summer club lacrosse. What's wrong with that. There's also something to be said for building team chemistry by paying together as much as possible. Craig and WI (and WM) do it the right way. Club programs are ruining lacrosse. Freudian post of the year.....lol Wow, does Craig profit off the summer team? I know there are coaches who run a rackets but didn't think it was happening in West Islip.

Re: High School Lax Boys B_O_T_C #166446
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	since our upstate friend doesn't think there are 50 top quality teams on Long Island, I will name my top 50. Im sure most of you will agree with most of my teams. In no specific order at all....... Nassau: 1- Syosset 2- Pequa 3- Farmingdale 4- Port Washington 5- Oceanside 6- Manhasset 7- Lynbrook 8- Garden City 9- Bethpage 10- South Side 11- Wantagh 12- North Shore 13- Hewlett 14- Carey 15- Cold Spring Harbor 16- Locust Valley 17- Seaford 18- Long Beach Suffolk: 19- Smithtown E 20- Smithtown W 21- SWR 22- Connetquot 23- Ward Melville 24- West Islip 25- Comsewoque 26- BBP 27- Sayville 28- Commack 29- Sachem E 30- Sachem N 31- Northport 32- ESM 33- Babylon 34- Half Hollow E 35- Half Hollow W 36- Rocky Pt 37- Miller Place 38- Harborfields 39- Huntingtown 40- Riverhead 41- Hauppauge 42- Mount Sinai 43- Whitman 44- Bay Shore 45- Islip Catholic LI: 46- St Anthonys 47- Chaminade 48- St Doms 49- Kellenberg 50- St Johns Bap. I think those some stong Lax schools....we don't "Need" to go anywhere. More tourneys are played on LI then anywhere else. Why ?

Re: High School Lax Boys B_O_T_C #166473
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	I will give you one reason why club teams are ruining the game. What about town pride?? I grew up in a blue collar town but had a great team. I am proud of where I grew up and when ever asked I say it with pride (2 t . the i). The other day I watched a game and all the kids were wearing different helmets from their club teams. The haves and have nots. What happened to school colors. Brings me to my second reason. People figured out they can make a lot of money off everyone who thinks there kid is the next best thing. Even the equipment companies joined in by raising prices on everything. Do you know all equipment is made the same and do you know what it cost to make a plastic head?? Because of this parents (some anyway) can not afford to buy 2 helmets.

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166482
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Originally Posted by Anonymous I will give you one reason why club teams are ruining the game. What about town pride?? I grew up in a blue collar town but had a great team. I am proud of where I grew up and when ever asked I say it with pride (2 t . the i). The other day I watched a game and all the kids were wearing different helmets from their club teams. The haves and have nots. What happened to school colors. Brings me to my second reason. People figured out they can make a lot of money off everyone who thinks there kid is the next best thing. Even the equipment companies joined in by raising prices on everything. Do you know all equipment is made the same and do you know what it cost to make a plastic head?? Because of this parents (some anyway) can not afford to buy 2 helmets. Town Pride? Last time I checked all the Club kids also play for their respective schools. I have never heard of a boy missing school ball in order to go to something for a club team. As far as the helmets go, the school should provide them. As for the money, it is my understanding that there are HS coaches charging a lot of $$ to play for their Town Team in the summer. The conflict of interest is pretty clear to me.

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166484
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Great points, I'm looking around for a club team for my son , I don't know why but I am , I think his town team can play with most club teams for 1/4 of the price. But I'm looking ! Almost found a team now but when I found out the price I couldn't believe it and there's only couple months lefted. I didn't play LAX but played ice hockey at college level. I still play to this day. The big hype is outta control for what , get little money for college and after college that's about it. People have to stop with this full ride crap , no full ride in LAX. Some of the kids that put so much time and money into but there's no real return like Baseball and football if you make it to the pro level. It's out of control and a money maker.

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166486
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Originally Posted by Anonymous Great points, I'm looking around for a club team for my son , I don't know why but I am , I think his town team can play with most club teams for 1/4 of the price. But I'm looking ! Almost found a team now but when I found out the price I couldn't believe it and there's only couple months lefted. I didn't play LAX but played ice hockey at college level. I still play to this day. The big hype is outta control for what , get little money for college and after college that's about it. People have to stop with this full ride crap , no full ride in LAX. Some of the kids that put so much time and money into but there's no real return like Baseball and football if you make it to the pro level. It's out of control and a money maker. kid with a 92 average and 1300 sat getting into an Ivy or Patriot league is enough of a return for me

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166491
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Originally Posted by Anonymous since our upstate friend doesn't think there are 50 top quality teams on Long Island, I will name my top 50. Im sure most of you will agree with most of my teams. In no specific order at all....... Nassau: 1- Syosset 2- Pequa 3- Farmingdale 4- Port Washington 5- Oceanside 6- Manhasset 7- Lynbrook 8- Garden City 9- Bethpage 10- South Side 11- Wantagh 12- North Shore 13- Hewlett 14- Carey 15- Cold Spring Harbor 16- Locust Valley 17- Seaford 18- Long Beach Suffolk: 19- Smithtown E 20- Smithtown W 21- SWR 22- Connetquot 23- Ward Melville 24- West Islip 25- Comsewoque 26- BBP 27- Sayville 28- Commack 29- Sachem E 30- Sachem N 31- Northport 32- ESM 33- Babylon 34- Half Hollow E 35- Half Hollow W 36- Rocky Pt 37- Miller Place 38- Harborfields 39- Huntingtown 40- Riverhead 41- Hauppauge 42- Mount Sinai 43- Whitman 44- Bay Shore 45- Islip Catholic LI: 46- St Anthonys 47- Chaminade 48- St Doms 49- Kellenberg 50- St Johns Bap. I think those some stong Lax schools....we don't "Need" to go anywhere. More tourneys are played on LI then anywhere else. Why ? Ok thats a good list. The TOP 20 teams out of that list can go out and compete anywhere with anyone, the rest? Not so much. Ask HHW what happened when they played Calvert Hall this year. Only St.A and Chaminade went off LI this year and competed well. As for tournaments, I can only say that yes there are a ton of tourneys played here in the summer, but I would also venture to say that 3/4 of them are a straight money grab and a straight waste of time.

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166493
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Originally Posted by Anonymous I wonder if centuries ago the Native Americans bickered about whether they needed to travel off their local land because they needed to test their mettle against other tribes? Yes they did. Big gamblers though. Lost their land in a braveheart at the turkey shootout! [/quote] Or their heads or their women!

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166494
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous since our upstate friend doesn't think there are 50 top quality teams on Long Island, I will name my top 50. Im sure most of you will agree with most of my teams. In no specific order at all....... Nassau: 1- Syosset 2- Pequa 3- Farmingdale 4- Port Washington 5- Oceanside 6- Manhasset 7- Lynbrook 8- Garden City 9- Bethpage 10- South Side 11- Wantagh 12- North Shore 13- Hewlett 14- Carey 15- Cold Spring Harbor 16- Locust Valley 17- Seaford 18- Long Beach Suffolk: 19- Smithtown E 20- Smithtown W 21- SWR 22- Connetquot 23- Ward Melville 24- West Islip 25- Comsewoque 26- BBP 27- Sayville 28- Commack 29- Sachem E 30- Sachem N 31- Northport 32- ESM 33- Babylon 34- Half Hollow E 35- Half Hollow W 36- Rocky Pt 37- Miller Place 38- Harborfields 39- Huntingtown 40- Riverhead 41- Hauppauge 42- Mount Sinai 43- Whitman 44- Bay Shore 45- Islip Catholic LI: 46- St Anthonys 47- Chaminade 48- St Doms 49- Kellenberg 50- St Johns Bap. I think those some stong Lax schools....we don't "Need" to go anywhere. More tourneys are played on LI then anywhere else. Why ? Ok thats a good list. The TOP 20 teams out of that list can go out and compete anywhere with anyone, the rest? Not so much. Ask HHW what happened when they played Calvert Hall this year. Only St.A and Chaminade went off LI this year and competed well. As for tournaments, I can only say that yes there are a ton of tourneys played here in the summer, but I would also venture to say that 3/4 of them are a straight money grab and a straight waste of time. And the level of quality of the teams willing to suffer the traffic and travel to play 2nd level lax where absolutely zero college coaches show up to watch is no incentive to come to the money grab Long Island " tournaments". Bring your best Long Island HS summer town teams to the likes of Crabfest or Adrenaline cup for example and watch how quickly they are taken out in the first round summer after summer. Club teams love it as they are an easy win to the next round.

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166498
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous since our upstate friend doesn't think there are 50 top quality teams on Long Island, I will name my top 50. Im sure most of you will agree with most of my teams. In no specific order at all....... Nassau: 1- Syosset 2- Pequa 3- Farmingdale 4- Port Washington 5- Oceanside 6- Manhasset 7- Lynbrook 8- Garden City 9- Bethpage 10- South Side 11- Wantagh 12- North Shore 13- Hewlett 14- Carey 15- Cold Spring Harbor 16- Locust Valley 17- Seaford 18- Long Beach Suffolk: 19- Smithtown E 20- Smithtown W 21- SWR 22- Connetquot 23- Ward Melville 24- West Islip 25- Comsewoque 26- BBP 27- Sayville 28- Commack 29- Sachem E 30- Sachem N 31- Northport 32- ESM 33- Babylon 34- Half Hollow E 35- Half Hollow W 36- Rocky Pt 37- Miller Place 38- Harborfields 39- Huntingtown 40- Riverhead 41- Hauppauge 42- Mount Sinai 43- Whitman 44- Bay Shore 45- Islip Catholic LI: 46- St Anthonys 47- Chaminade 48- St Doms 49- Kellenberg 50- St Johns Bap. I think those some stong Lax schools....we don't "Need" to go anywhere. More tourneys are played on LI then anywhere else. Why ? Ok thats a good list. The TOP 20 teams out of that list can go out and compete anywhere with anyone, the rest? Not so much. Ask HHW what happened when they played Calvert Hall this year. Only St.A and Chaminade went off LI this year and competed well. As for tournaments, I can only say that yes there are a ton of tourneys played here in the summer, but I would also venture to say that 3/4 of them are a straight money grab and a straight waste of time. And the level of quality of the teams willing to suffer the traffic and travel to play 2nd level lax where absolutely zero college coaches show up to watch is no incentive to come to the money grab Long Island " tournaments". Bring your best Long Island HS summer town teams to the likes of Crabfest or Adrenaline cup for example and watch how quickly they are taken out in the first round summer after summer. Club teams love it as they are an easy win to the next round. Thats very funny, It's the long island teams that win those tournaments, even playing against your 19 year old seniors!

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166508
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous Originally Posted by Anonymous since our upstate friend doesn't think there are 50 top quality teams on Long Island, I will name my top 50. Im sure most of you will agree with most of my teams. In no specific order at all....... Nassau: 1- Syosset 2- Pequa 3- Farmingdale 4- Port Washington 5- Oceanside 6- Manhasset 7- Lynbrook 8- Garden City 9- Bethpage 10- South Side 11- Wantagh 12- North Shore 13- Hewlett 14- Carey 15- Cold Spring Harbor 16- Locust Valley 17- Seaford 18- Long Beach Suffolk: 19- Smithtown E 20- Smithtown W 21- SWR 22- Connetquot 23- Ward Melville 24- West Islip 25- Comsewoque 26- BBP 27- Sayville 28- Commack 29- Sachem E 30- Sachem N 31- Northport 32- ESM 33- Babylon 34- Half Hollow E 35- Half Hollow W 36- Rocky Pt 37- Miller Place 38- Harborfields 39- Huntingtown 40- Riverhead 41- Hauppauge 42- Mount Sinai 43- Whitman 44- Bay Shore 45- Islip Catholic LI: 46- St Anthonys 47- Chaminade 48- St Doms 49- Kellenberg 50- St Johns Bap. I think those some stong Lax schools....we don't "Need" to go anywhere. More tourneys are played on LI then anywhere else. Why ? Ok thats a good list. The TOP 20 teams out of that list can go out and compete anywhere with anyone, the rest? Not so much. Ask HHW what happened when they played Calvert Hall this year. Only St.A and Chaminade went off LI this year and competed well. As for tournaments, I can only say that yes there are a ton of tourneys played here in the summer, but I would also venture to say that 3/4 of them are a straight money grab and a straight waste of time. And the level of quality of the teams willing to suffer the traffic and travel to play 2nd level lax where absolutely zero college coaches show up to watch is no incentive to come to the money grab Long Island " tournaments". Bring your best Long Island HS summer town teams to the likes of Crabfest or Adrenaline cup for example and watch how quickly they are taken out in the first round summer after summer. Club teams love it as they are an easy win to the next round. Thats very funny, It's the long island teams that win those tournaments, even playing against your 19 year old seniors! Funny in that you don't comprehend or process what was written. Long Island CLUB TEAMS win those tournaments. Proving the point that HS town teams cannot compete. Even the top Long Island club teams are reluctant to play in the 2nd level Island tournaments. HS town club teams cannot even win these 2nd level tournaments against weaker club teams. So then; what is ruining the progress of the town lax team? I'm glad you asked; cloistered town club teams with players afraid to step off of the reservation and dip a toe into the higher level club scene out of fear from the town coaches who will possibly punish them during regular season school lax. That's a good start as to what is trying to ruin the growth of the sport. The conflict of interest is clear to see; yet fear of reprisals keep them corralled with stunted tournament growth as a team and as individual players.

Re: High School Lax Boys Anonymous #166526
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	Nisky played Warwick and Mamaroneck before playing SYO. Syo had one lone game against SE who they beat quite easily. Whats your point? SYO had a much tougher road? Sorry try again. Yes the competition on LI is very good, but the upstate teams can play. If Nisky were in SUffolk or Nassau A they would be right in the mix every year, as would be Victor, West Genny, and plenty of others. I have a question, how did the LI teams do OFF Long Island this year against ranked opponents? Other than St A and Chaminade I cant think of one LI team that traveled off LI. Did any of the LI Publics even travel off LI this year? LI doesnt dominate anymore like in years past, the rest of the country is catching up and catching up fast. [/quote] Are you kidding me guy? Get this straight, Long Island DOES NOT need to travel ouit of Long Island. Besides MD we dominate in Lax. Yes, there are good Ct, NJ, Pa, and Upstate teams, but if you take the top 50 Lax schools on Long Island, nowhere besides Md even comes close. We would consistently smoke upstate. Keep dreaming though. [/quote] Not even close, sorry. So first off, no one is saying the teams need to travel, Im saying they SHOULD travel. Wouldnt you like to see how our teams stack up against the rest of the country? Dont you think that it benefits the teams that do it? As for your top 50 comment, please stop, there are maybe 20 quality programs on Long Island, the rest are mediocre at best. ========================== Lest we forget that in 2015 Syo had to also beat Pequa in the Nassau Class A final. A Pequa team that was defending 2014 Class A NYS Champs who were riding a 34 game winning streak.

Re: High School Lax Boys B_O_T_C #166533
A Anonymous Unregistered
Anonymous Unregistered A	20 quality programs and the rest are mediocre at best?!? That statement is ridiculous. So other than 20 programs the talent level on LI is basically below average, as per the clown who posted it.