BOTC - US Lacrosse Community Forum Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM (LI, CT, WC) Girls 2021-7th Grade Fall 2015 Summer 2016

[quote=Anonymous]So what 2021 LI team will reign supreme?
Gotta a good feeling elevate may surprise a few people!

Seriously? Elevate in the 2021 age group? Is that a joke? What surprise do they have in store for this age group? Entertain us?

Did any A girls from other clubs move over to elevate?

I'm sure you already know the answer so stop trying to stir crap up.

Oh stop with elevate losing their top 4 girls. Yes 3 were very good but passed to only certain girls. They will be better off. It's a team game.

Agree with you but you can't dispute that this age group in particular has seen huge turnover over the last two years with a significant drain of talent. Hopefully some of the issues have been addressed, especially the coaching. You can't possibly expect to compete at the higher level if half your team changes year over year especially if you are not top grading talent.

I agree do not like parent coaches for many reasons. Would love to see DK coach this team. It would make a difference. And only 4 left not half the team.

Does the top team still have a Mommy Coach or did they hire a real one?

DK has taken over and now coaches the 21 Blue girls. As for 10 leaving, I reached out to find out this info rather than listen to BS on the site and believe it. What I was told (which matches up with how the fall/winter actually went), is that 4 girls left, after tryouts the Blue team had 18 girls and Red had 22. They left spots on Blue in case they decided to move people up. 3 girls who were unhappy from another club came and tried out late and made Blue. So there was no 10 girl turnaround. 4 left, 3 new came on and now Dave is coaching. I think 21 Blue will do just fine.

To the earlier poster who asked if the grass is any greener someplace else, I say probably not. Every club has its challenges but the best thing is to keep your eyes wide open, not get sucked into big promises and be realistic about your child's ability. No matter what club, school or town team for that matter there's always someone bitching about something.
I also think it also gets worse as they get older.

You are right. There is a huge problem with the number of clubs that have popped up, as well as the young age they are starting. The Club model started for advanced players to play together in the summer and fall to help with college recruiting. What actually happened was people took it as a way to make money at the expense of the rec lacrosse programs. There is no reason to be paying $2000+ for your child to play lacrosse in 2nd,3rd, 4th grade. And because of the willingness of parents to pay this, clubs are popping up all over with no plan to make your child better. Look at the scores in the MD Spring league. There are a few good teams in the A bracket, but the rest are just fodder. Not to mention the load of teams in the B divisions. What is the end result parents are looking for here? If it really is apparent to them that they are paying for their child to play lacrosse year round, but understanding that the likelihood of their child getting recruited is very small, then I guess that's fine. But the clubs are selling parents on the fact that they need to play club for colleges to see them.

Once the girls get to about 7th grade, you should have a pretty firm grasp on where they stand. When you play M&D, Heros, YJ, etc and lose by 15+ goals, what are you and your child getting out of the money you spend and the time you put in? Who is coaching your child? Are they improving? Do they even want to play in college?

It's a harsh reality for the girls, but it is the truth. Selling them false promises isn't helping them either.

So here's a question, on the top teams you mentioned above, is the coaching and training that much better or have they just assembled a field of the best talent and it really doesn't matter who is coaching them? From a development standpoint, what should one expect if they are only practicing once or twice a week for an hour or so? Are the top teams developing these kids or just steering them in the right direction?

Are you kidding me? Coaching has so much to do with it. Playing within a system and giving your girls an opportunity to succeed is so crucial.

Couldn't disagree more, there are kids that you can try and coach forever and never make much progress, other kids are shown something once and instinctively know how to use it

Couldn't disagree more, there are kids that you can try and coach forever and never make much progress, other kids are shown something once and instinctively know how to use it

Nope, the very top teams, the kids show up highly developed on their own. If your counting on the travel coach to develope your kid, she won't be on top team very long, that's for sure.

Yep and when college comes and they are sick of lacrosse you will be to blame.

Why would I care if when she goes to college she is sick of lacrosse? She can quit. She's already in school. Guess she'll miss out on her professional lacrosse career.

The hard work will pay off when she gets to go to a school she may not have ottherwise had such an easy time getting into.

I agree do not like parent coaches for many reasons. Would love to see DK coach this team. It would make a difference. And only 4 left not half the team.

Seriously? Elevate in the 2021 age group? Is that a joke? What surprise do they have in store for this age group? Entertain us?

Elevate will not play in the top bracket in this age group this summer. If they do it will be a huge mistake for the club and the kids. They are not at that level and they will have a miserable summer if they do.