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You are old school. If you make them run or even yell at them it is called abuse today and you could lose your job. eXAMPLE is Coach at school across town lost his football position because he yelled at kids after a loss and them acting like idiots on the bus ride home. You walk a fine line these days when you are a coach.

But like in every level of the game. The buck stops with the HC. Always has and always will. The team wins he takes the pat on the back. The team loses he takes the heat. The kids get in trouble on or off the field during his season it is his to deal with good or bad and take the consequences. You can just imaging the speech he gave to the kids before the season " this is my team my rules what I say goes you are mine until the end of this season you will do what I say or else. WELL IT IS TIME OR ELSE

I also heard it was the AD who caught them and if that's true, where was the coach? Shouldn't he have a better idea of where his players were while a team dinner was going on. And why is the AD at an away game? Must have been some reason that she needs to travel with the boys lacrosse team.

They should have said coach chew out that school's varsity lacrosse team this year. They look like they could use some "motivation."

Kids were in their room on a road trip to play Bridgewater-Raritan and didn't miss a team dinner it was at 4pm. The AD caught them.

The coach should not be fired. Stop blaming other people for the actions of kids. Coach is not their parent. He can only do so much. Yet again we are a society that blames everyone else for the actions of our kids rather than take responsibility ourselves. The kids screwed up and they know it and so do their parents.

As for the performance of the team: How in the world can you blame the coach for everything? He plays the best competition regardless of what players he has, he ducks no one. FYI his teams always perform well. For all you parents who never played a D1 sport please listen to me. The coaches coach their system and what they think will work. If your kid doesnt play the way he tells him he will ride the bench. College coaches dont care if you were an All American in High School. Its his job on the line with wins and losses. Why am I bringing this up. Your coach prepares these kids for college ball better than any coach I have seen. Does he run a slow it down offense that is a bit boring to watch absolutely. If they let him go there will be a huge line of schools wanting his services. This guy places more kids in colleges than any high school coach.

Syosset 3-6 L
Smithtown West 6-8 L
Massapequa 8-10 L
St. Pauls 7-6 W
Bellevue WA 5-4 W
Bridgewater-Raritan 6-9 L

Thats a pretty demanding schedule. They have yet to play a conference game.

Sure.... Why hasn't he left for the lucrative college ranks of coaching yet? there must have been countless offers, right? right?

If they let him go, the only thing huge will be the huge sigh of relief from the entire town

Answer me this all mighty. If one of those kids had a reaction to what ever they were smoking and had to be rushed to the hospital or worse would you still be saying he is a great guy or would you be asking why and blaming everyone and their uncle.

Kids were missing from team dinner? No one went to look for them. Because they missed team dinner which I am assuming was mandatory would he have sat them out of game or at least for a half. Probably not.

Looks as a moderator we can see who is posting. Your the same person posting all the negative stuff. How is the coach to blame for the kids smoking pot. He didn't force them, he didn't buy it. He in no way condoned it. What the [lacrosse] are you smoking. They were missing after they got caught. They got caught at 4pm.

Maybe 1 or 2 parents dont like the HC..You know why..Because the parents think their little angel is a good lax player when he really suks and sits on the bench...Please stop going after the HC and worry about your own family. Im sure you are one of the parents that say their kid never did anything wrong and put the blame on other people because you are a crappy parent....Maybe if you stop babying your kid he will go to a good college and get a good job one day...You babying him will only lead to him back to his HS bedroom after college living with YOU. I know what you guys can do...you can drink beers together watching lax on TV saying that shouldve been my son on TV but my coach never played my son because he didnt know what he was doing...BLAH BLAH BLAH..Stop the crying and deal that your son stinks...If you dont like HS lax go to a club team..The coach will blow you and your son because he is getting PAID

I know everything about the game and how it works. The sign of a good coach is not only getting the ones who stand on their own and are the best on the team into decent colleges but the second and third tier players. List where all these kids are attending these elite schools. Except for Harvard which was established a few years back not many others are there. He throws away those kids like garbage and moves on to the next. 5-6 kids tops go to what you would call top elite schools. The rest fight for spots on their own at a D3 school. More than 60% if they are still playing are at D3 schools. If the didnt play for fl$ or EXPRESS Orange they are on their own. How many are going to Harvard next year ?? Or any other top tier team ? Not counting those who are taking a detour either which is becoming the norm at GC

I know everything about the game and how it works. The sign of a good coach is not only getting the ones who stand on their own and are the best on the team into decent colleges but the second and third tier players. List where all these kids are attending these elite schools. Except for Harvard which was established a few years back not many others are there. He throws away those kids like garbage and moves on to the next. 5-6 kids tops go to what you would call top elite schools. The rest fight for spots on their own at a D3 school. More than 60% if they are still playing are at D3 schools. If the didnt play for fl$ or EXPRESS Orange they are on their own. How many are going to Harvard next year ?? Or any other top tier team ? Not counting those who are taking a detour either which is becoming the norm at GC

I know everything about the game and how it works. The sign of a good coach is not only getting the ones who stand on their own and are the best on the team into decent colleges but the second and third tier players. List where all these kids are attending these elite schools. Except for Harvard which was established a few years back not many others are there. He throws away those kids like garbage and moves on to the next. 5-6 kids tops go to what you would call top elite schools. The rest fight for spots on their own at a D3 school. More than 60% if they are still playing are at D3 schools. If the didnt play for fl$ or EXPRESS Orange they are on their own. How many are going to Harvard next year ?? Or any other top tier team ? Not counting those who are taking a detour either which is becoming the norm at GC

I know everything about the game and how it works. The sign of a good coach is not only getting the ones who stand on their own and are the best on the team into decent colleges but the second and third tier players. List where all these kids are attending these elite schools. Except for Harvard which was established a few years back not many others are there. He throws away those kids like garbage and moves on to the next. 5-6 kids tops go to what you would call top elite schools. The rest fight for spots on their own at a D3 school. More than 60% if they are still playing are at D3 schools. If the didnt play for fl$ or EXPRESS Orange they are on their own. How many are going to Harvard next year ?? Or any other top tier team ? Not counting those who are taking a detour either which is becoming the norm at GC

looks like someone didn't get their kid onto the club team of their choice...so angry...you make me laugh.

They weren't missing that's wrong they weren't even caught red handed not one thing on this website is true they were interrogated after the ad smelt it. They got caught just before team was loading the bus

Looks as a moderator we can see who is posting. Your the same person posting all the negative stuff. How is the coach to blame for the kids smoking pot. He didn't force them, he didn't buy it. He in no way condoned it. What the [lacrosse] are you smoking. They were missing after they got caught. They got caught at 4pm.

Do you know that some of the best academic schools are D3. Colleges especially the top D1 and even D3 schools don't take the 2nd and 3rd tier players. A coach can only do so much. Do you know that the coach does what he can to place players. It's up to the players to have the grades and skill to get into the elite school. Is he supposed to do their homework and make them do wallball. No that's your job. So now because your kid isn't good enough or you think he is good but no schools take him it's the coaches fault. You again are a coaches nightmare. Just because you are from Garden City doesn't automatically guarantee your kid is going to a top D1 school.

Honestly, if you're a moderator you should be keeping your opinion out of the discussion. A "moderator" should be a neutral party with no say, just an observer. Perhaps you are too close to the situation and you should recuse yourself? You certainly shouldn't be insulting a kid, your last line above was completely unnecessary.

You do your best to find a home for all not the few that make you look good. Agreed there are many really good D3 schools but that is not how GC parents think. They all go into it thinking D1 FULL RIDE. Will do anything to get there kid on field not knowing there is so much more to it than just getting them on the field. Off the field in most cases is more important except those few rare kids

this topic has come so far off of the wheels. lets all agree that there is a shared responsibility for these actions on part of the players, parents and coaches.

parents place their children in the trust of the school and coaches. The coaches are obligated to provide and maintain a safe, protected and supervised environment for the welfare of these kids while in their care. otherwise schools should insist that parents attend and care for their own children while at such events.

the parents are not excused from their responsibility but count upon the coaches and school to provide as stated above in their stead while the children are in their care.

the students are immature for displaying such poor judgment.

ultimately, at the time of the infraction; the coach and staff are responsible for not preventing this from occurring.

you teach your kids not to play with matches but they burn down the house while the babysitter is on the phone instead of watching the kids as hired to do... who is at fault?

Really the moderator in my opinion should say whatever he wants. Its an opinion and he does protect many people/kids. He tells the truth. Not like you people listening to hearsay from disgruntled parents. Stay off this site if you dont like it..Your opinions suck if you ask me. Go yell at ur kid now for not doing 25 minutes of wall ball. How about getting your kid a tutor and getting him into a school on his own merits..lol

Ok I think we have gone on with this topic long enough. Lets get back to high school lacrosse. This situation is truly an unfortunate one. Everyone involved has suffered, the players, the parents, the coaches, the AD, the school, and community. Garden City has a decorated lacrosse history and an event like this should not tarnish or completely destroy what they have accomplished in the past and going forward. All that we as lacrosse enthusiasts can do is hope that everything settles down and not forget there are other players who are still playing and they need the support of their community.

Ok I think we have gone on with this topic long enough. Lets get back to high school lacrosse. This situation is truly an unfortunate one. Everyone involved has suffered, the players, the parents, the coaches, the AD, the school, and community. Garden City has a decorated lacrosse history and an event like this should not tarnish or completely destroy what they have accomplished in the past and going forward. All that we as lacrosse enthusiasts can do is hope that everything settles down and not forget there are other players who are still playing and they need the support of their community.