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TR saw some writing on the wall at SYO.
Good for him and his kids to go another direction.

Team / parent dynamic will be a sump this year.
Will be horrific to be on the sidelines watching the parents.

Or maybe the beginnings of a new reality TV show on Spike- Real Lax Parents of Syosset.

How did his kids go in another direction ? His oldest kid is on varsity at Syo. Get the facts correct moron.

You joke, but we don't hear you denying it. The rumors are out that the parents want JC gone, they're sick of his BS. How do you have a winning season when the coach, players and parents are divided? fight amongst yourselves but stop acting like thugs at games.

leave the kids out of it

I read the previous posts and the reference to his kids was not a bad one. I would prefer that the kids not be brought up at all in this particular conversation.

If it's an opinion on a kid you are correct . Kids should not be judged but if it is a fact about what team a kid plays for, where is the fault. Did you moderate when someone asked about USA kid when inquiring about Syosset. Be even handed in this and don't cave to the crybabies and carpetbaggers.

Teddy Roosevelt is from Syosett??? Who knew......

Speak softly and carry a big stick. Was TR a defenseman?

Yeah, he liked to get out on the ball carrier but his coach would always tell him Sag-some-more.

Well played

I'm not sure who's posting this misguided information about JC. Could it be parents of kids not playing? Having 2 sons go through this program, I've might not have seen eye to eye with the coaching staff, but both of them did just fine. You see lacrosse is only part of your kid's future! Shouldn't education be very important. As far as the coaching staff goes they are united not divide! If anyone is to blame let it be NCAA that is allowing players (as early as 8th grade) to contact coaches therefore, verbal commitments are made. This becomes a problem for High School Coaches because those parents believe their kids should be moved up or starting. I have witnessed this first hand. You see, high school is like college in that you want to win at any cost. Are you going to deny a player who excels at football and lacrosse, the right to start because he chooses football over lacrosse? Should a player be denied a starting position because he hasn't decide early on what college is the right fit for him? Are you going to play an upper classman over a freshman who has better all around skills? [lacrosse] no people! If your kid can't handle standing on the sidelines tell him to go out and work harder! In college your not treated with kid gloves. If your kid can't take "harsh" criticism then college lacrosse is not for him! Here's a wonderful statement from a top notch, respected, D1 lacrosse coach that he gives every recruit's parents: I have an open door policy and you can come and talk to me at any time. There are only 3 things I want you to think about before you knock on my door 1-I think I know a little more about lacrosse than you do. 2- I'm going to be brutally honest with you. And 3 - I don't love your kid as much as you love your kid.
This is what your player faces in college lacrosse! If you think JC is tough then college lacrosse is not for them!
Lastly, fans are the same no matter where you! They hate the refs if they are losing and they blame the coaching staff if their team loses! 😉

Why does everyone hate early recruiting?
It is not as bad as it seems.
Keeps coaches honest-High school-
Believe me High school coaches have all the power. In most towns you can not even state opinion without it effecting your sons playing time.
Why do you think high school coaches hate early recruiting-because they loose some of that power.
If a kid is an early recruit to a top 20 team- there is a reason for if-He is a good lacrosse player.
Everyone is saying early recruiting does not help out teams- Helped BU- early recruiting got them in top 20 in third season.
What is best for players and family is have playing field as even as possible. Early recruiting is helping that.
Perennial powers now have to compete for players -how is that a bad ting?
There will always be corruption- not all high school teams play the best players- there are friends, political connects etc. If you do not belive that then you are a fool.

Why does everyone hate early recruiting?
It is not as bad as it seems.
Keeps coaches honest-High school-
Believe me High school coaches have all the power. In most towns you can not even state opinion without it effecting your sons playing time.
Why do you think high school coaches hate early recruiting-because they loose some of that power.
If a kid is an early recruit to a top 20 team- there is a reason for if-He is a good lacrosse player.
Everyone is saying early recruiting does not help out teams- Helped BU- early recruiting got them in top 20 in third season.
What is best for players and family is have playing field as even as possible. Early recruiting is helping that.
Perennial powers now have to compete for players -how is that a bad ting?
There will always be corruption- not all high school teams play the best players- there are friends, political connects etc. If you do not belive that then you are a fool.

WI beat Sachem East they look pretty good this year.

I'm not sure who's posting this misguided information about JC. Could it be parents of kids not playing? Having 2 sons go through this program, I've might not have seen eye to eye with the coaching staff, but both of them did just fine. You see lacrosse is only part of your kid's future! Shouldn't education be very important. As far as the coaching staff goes they are united not divide! If anyone is to blame let it be NCAA that is allowing players (as early as 8th grade) to contact coaches therefore, verbal commitments are made. This becomes a problem for High School Coaches because those parents believe their kids should be moved up or starting. I have witnessed this first hand. You see, high school is like college in that you want to win at any cost. Are you going to deny a player who excels at football and lacrosse, the right to start because he chooses football over lacrosse? Should a player be denied a starting position because he hasn't decide early on what college is the right fit for him? Are you going to play an upper classman over a freshman who has better all around skills? [lacrosse] no people! If your kid can't handle standing on the sidelines tell him to go out and work harder! In college your not treated with kid gloves. If your kid can't take "harsh" criticism then college lacrosse is not for him! Here's a wonderful statement from a top notch, respected, D1 lacrosse coach that he gives every recruit's parents: I have an open door policy and you can come and talk to me at any time. There are only 3 things I want you to think about before you knock on my door 1-I think I know a little more about lacrosse than you do. 2- I'm going to be brutally honest with you. And 3 - I don't love your kid as much as you love your kid.
This is what your player faces in college lacrosse! If you think JC is tough then college lacrosse is not for them!
Lastly, fans are the same no matter where you! They hate the refs if they are losing and they blame the coaching staff if their team loses! 😉

If you can not get 12 d1 commits on the field with significant playing time you should not be coaching. If you have 12 d1 commits, you should be able to get 18 players significant playing time even in tight games
I have seen D1 schools play 18-19 players in tight games.
Every coach should have the problem of too many d1 commits.
Problem is high school coaches choose starters and then act like the starter is 10 better than player right under him. Which may be the case- but definitely not all the time- a lot of times there is not much difference.

Just a note to add, the Pequa coach went to Syosset because they pay better. Had nothing to do with coaching a "winner" had to do with coaching for $$. And he is a fantastic guy who every Massapequa kid loves. Big loss, but he went for money, which is just fine with everyone but Bernie Sanders supporters!!

Well find out next week when they play Ward Melville.......

Why does everyone hate early recruiting?
It is not as bad as it seems.
Keeps coaches honest-High school-
Believe me High school coaches have all the power. In most towns you can not even state opinion without it effecting your sons playing time.
Why do you think high school coaches hate early recruiting-because they loose some of that power.
If a kid is an early recruit to a top 20 team- there is a reason for if-He is a good lacrosse player.
Everyone is saying early recruiting does not help out teams- Helped BU- early recruiting got them in top 20 in third season.
What is best for players and family is have playing field as even as possible. Early recruiting is helping that.
Perennial powers now have to compete for players -how is that a bad ting?
There will always be corruption- not all high school teams play the best players- there are friends, political connects etc. If you do not belive that then you are a fool.

I call BS on this - nobody is moving from one assistant coaching job to another just for money. They just don't make that much at either school to justify leaving your work job on the south shore and driving to the north shore 5 days a week for maybe a couple of hundred extra bucks a year. I do not know him or have any idea why he decided to make the move back to Syosset but I doubt that money was the driving force

There's a difference between being tough and dishonest. Lack of integrity has NOTHING to do with being a tough coach. It's more than 2 or 3 kids standing on the sideline who take issue with the tactics and empty promises and if you think that's all you are dillusional. Glad it worked out for your two kids.

I call BS on this - nobody is moving from one assistant coaching job to another just for money. They just don't make that much at either school to justify leaving your work job on the south shore and driving to the north shore 5 days a week for maybe a couple of hundred extra bucks a year. I do not know him or have any idea why he decided to make the move back to Syosset but I doubt that money was the driving force

I'm not sure who's posting this misguided information about JC. Could it be parents of kids not playing? Having 2 sons go through this program, I've might not have seen eye to eye with the coaching staff, but both of them did just fine. You see lacrosse is only part of your kid's future! Shouldn't education be very important. As far as the coaching staff goes they are united not divide! If anyone is to blame let it be NCAA that is allowing players (as early as 8th grade) to contact coaches therefore, verbal commitments are made. This becomes a problem for High School Coaches because those parents believe their kids should be moved up or starting. I have witnessed this first hand. You see, high school is like college in that you want to win at any cost. Are you going to deny a player who excels at football and lacrosse, the right to start because he chooses football over lacrosse? Should a player be denied a starting position because he hasn't decide early on what college is the right fit for him? Are you going to play an upper classman over a freshman who has better all around skills? [lacrosse] no people! If your kid can't handle standing on the sidelines tell him to go out and work harder! In college your not treated with kid gloves. If your kid can't take "harsh" criticism then college lacrosse is not for him! Here's a wonderful statement from a top notch, respected, D1 lacrosse coach that he gives every recruit's parents: I have an open door policy and you can come and talk to me at any time. There are only 3 things I want you to think about before you knock on my door 1-I think I know a little more about lacrosse than you do. 2- I'm going to be brutally honest with you. And 3 - I don't love your kid as much as you love your kid.
This is what your player faces in college lacrosse! If you think JC is tough then college lacrosse is not for them!
Lastly, fans are the same no matter where you! They hate the refs if they are losing and they blame the coaching staff if their team loses! 😉