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If you think kids staying back a year for privates is going to stop you are a complete idiot. Holdbacks have been happening for 30+ years. Nothing will change in HS. Club lacrosse might change but so far US lacrosse has had no teeth with Clubs.

If youth club lacrosse goes strictly to age based teams then it will definitely have and impact - which is where the real problems lies.

News flash. Coach Shriver's last season at BL is 2015.

Kids will still holdback so that they are a year older when they get to high school. They would just have to play on age in middle school.

The fact is though, US Lacrosse cannot enforce this new rule. How many tournaments these days require you to even have a US Lacrosse number? I welcome the change, but just don't see how it is going to be enforced. Clubs have already started their own tournaments. You think the NLF cares what US Lacrosse wants? You think that Madlax or Matt Hogan or Ryan Mclernan feel like they have to enforce this at their tournaments? Of course not.

If there are no grade based teams they will.

No sh-t but he was the coach at BL for the past 36 years. So I think all of the nonsense spewed on this forum that BL is in on the conspiracy with the clubs is ridiculous.

Crabs play and practice at BL. "Home of the Crabs" If you don't think RM doesn't get "something" from BL for the kids that go there and he convinces to reclass than you are either ignorant or naïve.

You have to love anonymous message boards where idiots, that have no clue can spout off conspiracy theories. You really need to get a clue if you think BL is paying Crabs kickbacks for steering students to BL.

Free practice time is a form of kickback.

Considering the double holdback is transferring out of BL next year, that would seem pretty ridiculous.lol

You are an idiot. How many times has your kid gotten cut from Crabs?

I'm sure RM must be getting something for the 2, 2020 kids going to BL, one of which is transferring out as a previous post suggested. Before you start discrediting my claim of only 2, 2020 crabs players, I will let you know that my son is in the 2020 class at BL. He is not a hold back and plays for another elite team. I am not interested in this whole holdback issue. My son can and does compete with them. I do have an issue with the incorrect statements made due to ignorance or just plain old fabrication. I guess some just need something to complain about.

Crabs cheat and RM is a scheister. If BL had any class they would tell him to take his holdback scheme somewhere else. They won't - mo money mo money money

Guilty by association...be careful who and what you associate with!

Are u saying that the double holdback is leaving BL for another school. If that is true ..WOW , crazy. all in the name of Lacrosse?

Calvert Hall made him promises that BL wouldn't. He's not worth it.

I think it's sad the people do this to their kids -- or even let their kids do it if they want to. These are not professional athletes. What about friendships and having ties to your school community? What are we teaching these kids? Do anything to move ahead? For what? Seriously... for what? Holdback twice, switch high schools, leave your friends, your teachers, your coach. Really sad. And a shame. Kids need security. Ties. Community. Shame on these parents. Because that is who is to blame.

Poor kid. What are his parents thinking?

In fairness, he went to prefirst and repeated a grade early in elementary school. He was not held back for athletics.

So instead of paying for lacrosse, the parents should be paying for a tutor. Is Calvert Hall's academics easier than BL's that he can do his school work and the "non-mandatory" practices at the Hall.

with that being said, with Calvert Hall students having two free periods a day where academic help is available, the Hall may be a better fit for him (although I am not sure about BL's schedule) academically.

CH and BL are both considered a joke academically.

A BL dad told me this kid got offered a full ride to BL. Not sure what more CHC could offer.

Slow your roll people. He's a kid. Yes, this may be (yet another) example of lunatic lacrosse parenting, but he's just a boy. Doesn't matter to me if he's good at lacrosse or not...let's all stop this discourse on a kid please. It's beneath even lacrosse parents, which I know is really saying something, but here just stop.

In my opinion hes not worth the full ride. There are a ton of players better and more deserving than him

Playing time probably

The kid was not offered a full ride.

CHC offered guaranteed spot on Varsity lacrosse and Football as a freshman.

You have no idea what you are talking about. It depends on the kid. If in honors classes BL is one of the most rigorous programs in the area.

My understanding is you still have to have some kind of need to get a full ride. If your family is wealthy I think you can not get a full ride.

I've heard all kinds of things about BL and Gilman in particular but Calvert Hall has been rumored to jump into this cesspool with full athletic rides. It's what youth sports is all about...right?

There is no " full ride ". It's just something people like to say to make their kid seem extra special. There is full financial aid if a family is very poor and qualifies based on federal/state guidelines. Don't know "so-called" double holdback ' s financial situati on n but maybe they qualified for full financial aid. Also, no guarantee on playing varsity..that will be earned and riding the bench on varsity isn't always best thing for freshmen development. CH football has been on steady decline for past 4 years..doubt they start any freshmen unless kid is at very high level.

He was promised varsity for both sports at CH. he's old enough to currently be in 10th grade so he should be on varsity any way

Financial Aid at private schools has nothing to do with Federal and State Guidelines. They are "private" and can therefore do whatever they want.

Poggi gave the OC at Maryland's kid a full ride and he lived in Poggi's house. The private schools can do whatever they want.

There wasn't much fact in anything that person said other than that CH football has been on a decline. You are correct. The Privates can do whatever they want in terms of aid.

Mom and Dads W2 is the biggest factor, period. Kind of like the tax code -- the more you make the more you pay, even if you have a stud athlete.

Just in: it's Bernie's way. hoco update:
Crabs wins it over Looneys in final.

91 force is ready for the big game

Now you sound like 91 Platinum. It will definitely be a Looneys/crabs championship. Everyone else just wants good competitive games and an occasional upset.
The schools can do what they want. It is not based entirely on income if they are using endowment money -especially if being the best in a particular sport was/is important to the endowment source.

Pretty much common knowledge but nobody cares as everyone knows the story behind Crabs.

Unless the school really really wants you for sports than negotiations are absolutely possible and the norm .